William Dean Posted August 31, 2010 #76 Share Posted August 31, 2010 Sadly it looks lile the Eurodam and the Nieuw Amsterdam with a red stack with a well worn "British" theme from Los Angeles California. She may not have the beauty of her namesakes, but does it really matter if the service and experience on board is concerned? I had a wonderful time on Queen Victoria, and she's a good ship. Lovely interior, and wonderful crew. Isn't that good enough for you? What don't you like about being on board Queen Victoria? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savoia Posted August 31, 2010 #77 Share Posted August 31, 2010 She may not have the beauty of her namesakes, but does it really matter if the service and experience on board is concerned? I had a wonderful time on Queen Victoria, and she's a good ship. Lovely interior, and wonderful crew. Isn't that good enough for you? What don't you like about being on board Queen Victoria? The Cunard theme is the vision of Princess Cruises...who not only designed QV, QE and the refits on QM2...they manage almost every aspect of tis operations. cunard is not a true statement of itself..but of the Love Boat company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savoia Posted August 31, 2010 #78 Share Posted August 31, 2010 You mean like this: Or this: Nah.....they'd never think of that, would they?:rolleyes: And how long did it take Princess to come up with this idea? About as long as having UK themed shops on Cunard themed ships...and we're supposed to congratulate Princess for all this? Better late than never I suppose... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Dean Posted August 31, 2010 #79 Share Posted August 31, 2010 The Cunard theme is the vision of Princess Cruises...who not only designed QV, QE and the refits on QM2...they manage almost every aspect of tis operations. cunard is not a true statement of itself..but of the Love Boat company. How does that detract from the actual experience on Queen Victoria? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmwnc1959 Posted August 31, 2010 Author #80 Share Posted August 31, 2010 New bow-on shot of QE in drydock http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1172810 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savoia Posted August 31, 2010 #81 Share Posted August 31, 2010 New bow-on shot of QE in drydock http://www.shipspotting.com/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=1172810 Nieuw Amsterdam/Eurodam clone...sigh Another Ramada on a raft... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Dean Posted September 1, 2010 #82 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Nieuw Amsterdam/Eurodam clone...sigh Another Ramada on a raft... I'm still confused as to why you think this matters so much. Ships are built to make money - and for no other reason. Are you suggesting that Queen Elizabeth will fail at that? Or that Queen Victoria does? Okay, so she isn't as pretty as the older ships. No-one will pretend that she is. But if people have a good time on board, what does it really matter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savoia Posted September 1, 2010 #83 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I'm still confused as to why you think this matters so much. Ships are built to make money - and for no other reason. Are you suggesting that Queen Elizabeth will fail at that? Or that Queen Victoria does? Okay, so she isn't as pretty as the older ships. No-one will pretend that she is. But if people have a good time on board, what does it really matter? When you have the resources to raise the bar and do better and consciously decide not to is nothing more than the lazy way to end. Why bother to do any better when recycling what you've done before? And alas..we have the Carnival Cruise Lines owned, P&O/Princess designed/managed..Queen Elizabeth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Dean Posted September 1, 2010 #84 Share Posted September 1, 2010 When you have the resources to raise the bar and do better and consciously decide not to is nothing more than the lazy way to end. Why bother to do any better when recycling what you've done before? And alas..we have the Carnival Cruise Lines owned, P&O/Princess designed/managed..Queen Elizabeth. Yes. You've said all this. But, if the new ship will please the punters, and make money, isn't that a successful ship? And you still haven't said what you disliked when you were aboard Victoria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzaw Posted September 1, 2010 #85 Share Posted September 1, 2010 So - regarding the new Queen Elizabeth .. Will it or won't it fly the Union Jack??? Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guernseyguy Posted September 1, 2010 #86 Share Posted September 1, 2010 So - regarding the new Queen Elizabeth .. Will it or won't it fly the Union Jack??? Yes (technically the Red Ensign, or the Blue Ensign if a member of the RN Reserve is in command). Otherwise they will have to unweld the SOUTHAMPTON on her stern and stick something else there.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vic The Parrot Posted September 1, 2010 #87 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Otherwise they will have to unweld the SOUTHAMPTON on her stern and stick something else there.... Like Panama ?? :eek: :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guernseyguy Posted September 1, 2010 #88 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Like Panama ?? :eek: :D More likely HAMILTON....like P&O and their Princess subsidiary.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savoia Posted September 1, 2010 #89 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Yes. You've said all this. But, if the new ship will please the punters, and make money, isn't that a successful ship? And you still haven't said what you disliked when you were aboard Victoria. Ready? never will step foot on icky Vicky. And yes, I know, how do I know I don't like it? A ship designed by its competition, managed and directed by someone else is not a true statement of itself..a simple cheap means to an end. Financially successful perhaps...a quick and lazy statement..not the best Carnival could do is what I see...one that needs to be shaken from the bottom up. Or, at the very least, the Princess lead PR department for the Cunard theme should be able to tell the difference between the Queen Mary, and a Titanic'd Queen Mary...something they can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guernseyguy Posted September 1, 2010 #90 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Some people have never got over the basket case that was Cunard Miami being shut down....boo hoo.....meanwhile, here's another shot of QE: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savoia Posted September 1, 2010 #91 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Some people have never got over the basket case that was Cunard Miami being shut down....boo hoo.....meanwhile, here's another shot of QE: This is Queen Victoria! Oh no..wait..sorry..all these Vistas look alike and I see Carnival finally had the bow painted properly (unlike the sloppy job of her launch) and this Vista does indeed say Queen Elizabeth. GO PRINCESS!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guernseyguy Posted September 1, 2010 #92 Share Posted September 1, 2010 ... I see Carnival finally had the bow painted properly ....GO PRINCESS!! Make your mind up! Carnival or Princess.....how long is it since Cunard Miami was shut down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savoia Posted September 1, 2010 #93 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Make your mind up! Carnival or Princess.....how long is it since Cunard Miami was shut down? They're pretty much interchangable..Carnival owned..Princess managed..designed, staffed. Cunard Miami? You tell me Peter.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guernseyguy Posted September 1, 2010 #94 Share Posted September 1, 2010 They're pretty much interchangable..Carnival owned..Princess managed..designed, staffed. How would you know if you never sail on them? When WAS the last time you sailed on anything? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guernseyguy Posted September 1, 2010 #95 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Nieuw Amsterdam/Eurodam clone...sigh You mean like these two: And Or these two? Darned cookie cutters! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcscot Posted September 1, 2010 #96 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Some people have never got over the basket case that was Cunard Miami being shut down....boo hoo.....meanwhile, here's another shot of QE: That forward canopy area on the top deck makes her look like she is wearing a crown! How appropriate. I understand that it covers the bowling green? It does make her look a little different from QV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guernseyguy Posted September 1, 2010 #97 Share Posted September 1, 2010 That forward canopy area on the top deck makes her look like she is wearing a crown! How appropriate. I understand that it covers the bowling green? It does make her look a little different from QV. Yes - this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garigoun Posted September 1, 2010 #98 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Yes - this: Not being an avid ship-o-phile and hence not keeping up with the latest about the new boat I don't know if this is for real or just Guernseyguy having a laugh. But if it is real then I wonder that Cunard are not embarrassed to death by the picture it paints. I'm embarrassed for them just looking at it. Gari Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guernseyguy Posted September 1, 2010 #99 Share Posted September 1, 2010 I'm embarrassed for them just looking at it.Gari Have they got their bowls wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenC Posted September 1, 2010 #100 Share Posted September 1, 2010 Have they got their bowls wrong? will it be real grass????? :eek: can only old codgers have access????? :eek: what will be the dress code????? :eek: is it a Princess design and where did the light fittings come from???? :eek: Ken ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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