Carnival Ship's security

[dbenlee]

[quote name='zonabelle']Good opportunity for John McClane.[/quote]

And Steven Seagal!

[Captain Funtime]

[quote name='dbenlee']And Steven Seagal![/QUOTE]

The A Team.

[shof515]

At least these soo called pirates get a free room: the brig !!

[cruisingnewb]

I have a wild imagination and thought about this awhile back. About a week after thinking about the ship being hijacked I watched "Red Dawn" "Toy Soldiers" and "Die Hard" (all of them) so I believe I am prepared to take on a situation like this. A few bottles of liquor and a cigarette lighter will do wonders in this scenario. Or I can go Macgyver on them with a paper clip, chewing gum, and rubberband I have a homemade slingshot. If all fails i'm bailing off the ship in a lifeboat.

[Yemaya]

Saw a television program regarding this subject once. Cruise lines employ highly trained ex-military members from around the world to work along side and supervise the "rent a cop" security officers you see on board the ships. They showed some of the techniques they are trained in to deal with different scenarios including pirates trying to board a ship from a smaller vessel, security could use fire hoses to fill and sink a small boat before the hostiles could get on board. They obviously would not divulge too much info such as if they do have any weapons on board but what they did share was interesting and made you feel comfortable knowing that the security on board cruise ship is looked after by professionals. They also make it a point not to cruise in or near volatile regions of the world. Interesting show that aired a couple of years ago on the travel channel in Canada.

[AZ Karaoke Girl]

Thanks for all the replies and for clarification, the weapons I am primarily referring to are viruses, such as computer viruses that can take "virtual" control of the ship. I can assure you, that in the middle of the night, in total darkness, when the ship losses power, the lights go off, the circulating air stops and the pirates start several controlled fires within the ship, I truly believe that there will be unbelievable chaos and the staff will be helpless and not be able to control the situation and this will leave a window of opportunity for a potential attack from pirates. If you believe that my scenario is that far feted, so be it.

OMG! You mean this could really happen? I think I better cancel all my cruises cuz now I'm scared that this could happen while I'm on board.:rolleyes:

 

I think you have too much time on your hands and why are all of you feeding OP's rubbish?

[Bonneville02]

With over 16 Carnival cruises under my belt, I have always wondered in the back of my head what type of security carnival offers to its guest regarding a possible hostage incident were a group of highly trained and heavily armed radicals overtakes the ship while out in the middle of the ocean and holds the crew for ransom ? Although I may be very wrong, but in my opinion, eliminating the ships’ top officers, accessing the bridge, eliminating all electronic communication and turning off all the electrical power on the ship would create total chaos and this may be all that is required in highjacking the ship and its passengers. I seriously doubt that the rent-a-cops on the ship would provide any assistance and Carnival’s public image would be destroyed to the point were Carnival would be forced into paying off the pirates. With all the ship highjacking that occurs around the world, I wouldn’t be surprise if some radical group doesn’t have plans on making money overtaking a cruise ship ?

 

 

Nope, this won't work at all. If I've learned anything from nearly 30 years of action flicks, pirates could not take over a cruise ship without:

 

Ninjas

A slight, nerdy computer geek

A big crazy guy with knives

Another big crazy guy with a big gun

One secondary goon with a Russian name

Al Leong (usually gets killed)

One secondary goon with a German name

Gary Oldman

[newcatintown]

I thought you only came here to claim Racism?:confused:

 

NOT TRUE!! Pickle is just a little different, but I don't find her racist.

 

Shame on you.

[wimsiecruise]

Nope, this won't work at all. If I've learned anything from nearly 30 years of action flicks, pirates could not take over a cruise ship without:

 

Ninjas

A slight, nerdy computer geek

A big crazy guy with knives

Another big crazy guy with a big gun

One secondary goon with a Russian name

Al Leong (usually gets killed)

One secondary goon with a German name

Gary Oldman

 

 

Too funny !:):)

[GlendaleCruiser]

Smart pirates take cargo ships. Far fewer people to control, and full of cargo they can sell back to its owner, or to new buyers.

 

Why bother with the PIA of taking a ship with 3 to 5 thousand people on it?

 

 

Especially when they all start whining and standing at the purser's office demanding to be compensated for those darn pirates ruining their cruise and making them miss ports.

 

Who needs that kind of hassle?:cool:

[steveNcindy]

I would just fashion a safety vest out of Flat Iron Steaks. Lord knows, knives can't get thru those things.

[graphicguy]

Love this thread. First and foremost, either the OP is trying to write a book, has wayyyyyy toooooo much time on his hands. Or, is actually thinking about attempting such a fiasco.

 

As Lemur points out, the Caribbean is U.S. Navy territory. If, as the OP seems to think, modern day pirates can easily board a cruise ship, wait until he sees what the Navy can do to board that same cruise ship.

 

Then, let's say that as the OP thinks, "inside" people can board with massive weapons or computer hacking ability. Might be tough for an employee, since anyone with those abilities would have to be working for Carnival for more than just few months to gain enough clearance to access the affected areas.

 

A good many of us civilians have actually been trained and served in the military. You don't think we'd actually sit back without retaliating do you?

 

Then there's the ship's security.

 

Me thinks these so called "pirates" would be dead or maimed before they got anywhere near the bridge (or the breakfast buffet:D).

[cruisingnewb]

Especially when they all start whining and standing at the purser's office demanding to be compensated for those darn pirates ruining their cruise and making them miss ports.

 

Who needs that kind of hassle?:cool:

 

I hate long lines, I will just start looting the pirates booty for compensation. :D

[jetskier]

Back on topic, let's not forget the popularity of cruising with our servicemen and women. Does anyone thing they would allow a ship to be hijacked? Or any law enforcement personnel on board? I highly doubt it.

 

Just ask that bozo who tried to rob the passengers in Costa Rica about a year or so ago. Oh wait you cant.....because the elderly guy snapped the bozo's neck.

 

Dave

[kerrytens]

I would just fashion a safety vest out of Flat Iron Steaks. Lord knows, knives can't get thru those things.

Steve, come on everyone knows not to ask for them to be cooked anything over rare ....:p

[KCMarie]

I would just fashion a safety vest out of Flat Iron Steaks. Lord knows, knives can't get thru those things.

 

Amen! LMBAO, Excellent creativity there steve!

[nrdsb4]

Nope, this won't work at all. If I've learned anything from nearly 30 years of action flicks, pirates could not take over a cruise ship without:

 

Ninjas

A slight, nerdy computer geek

A big crazy guy with knives

Another big crazy guy with a big gun

One secondary goon with a Russian name

Al Leong (usually gets killed)

One secondary goon with a German name

Gary Oldman

 

In my version they would need the following:

 

The smart, sexy, recently released from prison "idea man".

Another handsome junk food eating "detail man".

An ostentatiously rich gold chain- big bellied guy to fund it- "bankroll man."

The nerdy computer/security system geek "surveillance man."

The lithe, gymnastic little Chinese guy who can fit into small places "greaser man".

An experienced casino card dealer con man with strong grip "inside man."

An old retired thief/still talented poseur "high roller guy" who can only store his millions in the secure bridge area.

A childish, argumentative, all purpose "getaway guy."

Another childish, argumentative, all purpose "getaway guy."

A cockney British explosives "Basher" guy.

A handsome, skilled, pickpocket albeit "Rookie" guy.

 

Was that 11?;)

[zonabelle]

i would just fashion a safety vest out of flat iron steaks. Lord knows, knives can't get thru those things.

:d:d:d

[Bonneville02]

In my version they would need the following:

 

The smart, sexy, recently released from prison "idea man".

Another handsome junk food eating "detail man".

An ostentatiously rich gold chain- big bellied guy to fund it- "bankroll man."

The nerdy computer/security system geek "surveillance man."

The lithe, gymnastic little Chinese guy who can fit into small places "greaser man".

An experienced casino card dealer con man with strong grip "inside man."

An old retired thief/still talented poseur "high roller guy" who can only store his millions in the secure bridge area.

A childish, argumentative, all purpose "getaway guy."

Another childish, argumentative, all purpose "getaway guy."

A cockney British explosives "Basher" guy.

A handsome, skilled, pickpocket albeit "Rookie" guy.

 

Was that 11?;)

 

Well, damn, you win this thread!

[zonabelle]

Well I guess I am forewarned that if I see George, Brad or Matt boarding the ship, I should foil their evil plan by asking for autographs and taking their pictures. To be fair, I will post the pix on this board.

[nothomeonacruise]

and a MacGiver to save the ship!

[mucklucks]

Me thinks the OP has an over active imagination..Ahoy matie write a screenplay pitch it to hollywood and see who will greenlight it, you have a better chance of making a movie than we do of being hijacked..Shiver me timbers..........LOL

Later,

Rhonda aka mucklucks

[Bonneville02]

and a MacGiver to save the ship!

 

MacGyver would be fine in a land based situation, but he isn't lone wolfie enough for a sea based situation. We would need a sullen, lone wolf ex-Navy Seal with issues so serious that he now has a very unlikely job, such as Lead Cupcake Designer or Poodle Wrangler. Our hero was trained by the Greatest Mentor Ever, who just happens to be working for the bad guys. Of course, there is the inevitable showdown where the hero meets his old mentor, who reminds him of the disaster at Macho Grande (which our hero never got over), and our hero has flashbacks (gunfire, explosions, hero yelling "Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo").

[kyrisong1]

Nope, this won't work at all. If I've learned anything from nearly 30 years of action flicks, pirates could not take over a cruise ship without:

 

Ninjas

A slight, nerdy computer geek

A big crazy guy with knives

Another big crazy guy with a big gun

One secondary goon with a Russian name

Al Leong (usually gets killed)

One secondary goon with a German name

Gary Oldman

opps you forgot the huge guy with the grill on his teeth........ wasn't that Governator????

[kerrytens]

opps you forgot the huge guy with the grill on his teeth........ wasn't that Governator????

We could go a little low tech 60's too - how about a James Bond bad guy who throws his bowler? Oddjob! (or Random Task in the Austin Powers movies)