BaumD Posted October 27, 2010 #1 Share Posted October 27, 2010 USA Today reports that the Turku Shipyard will shut down after delivering the Allure due to lack of new orders for cruise ships. The end of an era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigeagle12 Posted October 27, 2010 #2 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Thank goodness!!!! Lets get back to making cruise ships and not amusement parks. :eek::eek::eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlabout Posted October 27, 2010 #3 Share Posted October 27, 2010 One man's amusement park is another man's cruise ship. I like the Oasis class as well as the rest of the fleet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyron Posted October 27, 2010 #4 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Thank goodness!!!! Lets get back to making cruise ships and not amusement parks. :eek::eek::eek: i guess you missed the header....the shipyard is CLOSING; not ceasing to build megaships. there will be thousands of people affected by this loss of work. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBert Posted October 27, 2010 #5 Share Posted October 27, 2010 I wonder how credible that report is. I just checked their site and it looks like they signed a contract for another project. http://www.stxeurope.com/?page=580&xml=S/134984/PR/201010/1454732 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPan Posted October 27, 2010 #6 Share Posted October 27, 2010 But how could USA Today possibly be wrong? :rolleyes::rolleyes: "STX Finland Oy and Viking Line ABP have signed a preliminary agreement for the construction of an environmentally friendly, new generation cruise ferry for Viking Line. The agreement includes an option for a sister ship. The ship price will be about 240 million euros, and will be built at Turku shipyard for delivery in the beginning of 2013. " From the STX website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKHawaii Posted October 27, 2010 #7 Share Posted October 27, 2010 The shipyard is not being shut down forever. The shipyard will be idled until next spring when work on the ferry is started. However, that project will employ only about 20 percent of the workforce that constructed the monster cruisers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterPan Posted October 27, 2010 #8 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Agreed. But, hardly "the end of an era". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murphs Posted October 27, 2010 #9 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Also note that while it would be a blow to lose that ship yard, thas is if it was closing, they still would retain two additional ship yards in Finland. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribbeanboy Posted October 27, 2010 #10 Share Posted October 27, 2010 Now is the time that RC can negotiate a favorable price for some new ships. Btw they also have a shipyard in France (where N.Epic was built) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruising89143 Posted October 28, 2010 #11 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Thank goodness!!!! Lets get back to making cruise ships and not amusement parks. :eek::eek::eek: Yes and lets put many workers out of a job and hurt their families because someone doesn't like large ships.:rolleyes: Fortunately the shipyard just signed an agreement to build a new ferry so it won't be idle for long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NordicPrince Posted October 28, 2010 #12 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Gee it wasn't that long ago that us Americans used to build nice ships too. (Last cruise ships in Mississippi?) Nobody seems to get worked up about that on these boards. Oh yeah, don't forget about the Italians (Ficantieri). They build them pretty nice too. The Turku shipyard activity for the building of Oasis and Allure was subsidized by the Finnish government in a working agreement with RCI. This slow-down in building activity is an inevitable after-effect of that and a current oversupply of available cabins in the cruise industry and tankers in the oil industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Big Booper Posted October 28, 2010 #13 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Thank goodness!!!! Lets get back to making cruise ships and not amusement parks. :eek::eek::eek: I noticed that aside from your 1996 cruise on the late SOA, the other five were on ships that hold 3,600 people. Once upon a time, people with your point of view considered them "monster" ships. All in the eyes of the beholder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marci22 Posted October 28, 2010 #14 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Now is the time that RC can negotiate a favorable price for some new ships. They don't have enough money to buy more ships right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greghouseo Posted October 28, 2010 #15 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Gee it wasn't that long ago that us Americans used to build nice ships too.(Last cruise ships in Mississippi?) Nobody seems to get worked up about that on these boards. Oh yeah, don't forget about the Italians (Ficantieri). They build them pretty nice too. The Turku shipyard activity for the building of Oasis and Allure was subsidized by the Finnish government in a working agreement with RCI. This slow-down in building activity is an inevitable after-effect of that and a current oversupply of available cabins in the cruise industry and tankers in the oil industry. Yes, but there is no reason to rejoice in the potential misfortune of individuals and families. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinlandGuy Posted October 28, 2010 #16 Share Posted October 28, 2010 I think the role of the Finnish government through its export agency Finnvera was to help in financing and credit guarantees. This is common in other countries as well. Gee it wasn't that long ago that us Americans used to build nice ships too.(Last cruise ships in Mississippi?) Nobody seems to get worked up about that on these boards. Oh yeah, don't forget about the Italians (Ficantieri). They build them pretty nice too. The Turku shipyard activity for the building of Oasis and Allure was subsidized by the Finnish government in a working agreement with RCI. This slow-down in building activity is an inevitable after-effect of that and a current oversupply of available cabins in the cruise industry and tankers in the oil industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipLondon Posted October 28, 2010 #17 Share Posted October 28, 2010 The Allure was handed over today, so whatever was going to happen, starts today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinlandGuy Posted October 28, 2010 #18 Share Posted October 28, 2010 The Allure was handed over today, so whatever was going to happen, starts today. And it should start sailing from Turku tomorrow Friday at 6AM local time. The weather hasn't been too good on the Baltic so there might be delays. A local newspaper said that wind force must not be over 5-8 m/s when leaving the yard. Then there's the thrilling Store Belt bridge and then it's nonstop to Florida with a speed of 18-19 knots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KristinaBrahe Posted October 28, 2010 #19 Share Posted October 28, 2010 This is the boat they are gonna start to build for Viking Line and it will be used on Turku-Stockholm service starting 2013: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Flying Pirate Posted October 28, 2010 #20 Share Posted October 28, 2010 Anytime jobs are lost it isn't a good thing. Hopefully the ferry market will hold the shipyard until the next Cruise Line New Builds are ordered. I think we have seen the last huge ships for a while. I would guess that they would revisit the Radiance Class Panamax concept for the next new builds. But that is just a guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NordicPrince Posted October 29, 2010 #21 Share Posted October 29, 2010 I think the role of the Finnish government through its export agency Finnvera was to help in financing and credit guarantees. This is common in other countries as well. Not passing judgement, just stating the facts. BTW I wish we in the U.S.A. wouldn't be so timid in making these private-public partnerships to stimulate major business projects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NordicPrince Posted October 29, 2010 #22 Share Posted October 29, 2010 Yes, but there is no reason to rejoice in the potential misfortune of individuals and families. Did I mention jumping up and down with glee about workers being idled? No; having been laid off before I know how it stinks. Having been a victim of downsizing and reduncy for the sake of pleasing shareholders and funding my boss's Holiday bonus I can certainly identify with that. Staying on topic: The fact is that the building of Oasis and Allure were 2 massive undertakings which were created out of a private-public effort and that it was an artificially unsustainable level of production. Let's hope the wisest of the workers were smart enough to realize this and put a sizable amount of funds in reserve to live off of until the next up-phase in the building cycle. In addition let's hope they can find work in repair and maintenance of existing ships which is what happens when there is limited new building going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denpetter Posted November 13, 2012 #23 Share Posted November 13, 2012 the Turku shipyard has gotten a few new orders recently. The spectacular new Mein Schiff 3 by TUI (largest cruise ship in europe) is being built by STX europe in Turku, as well as Viking Grace. Now Rccl has ordered another Oasisclassship to be built by STX europe in Turku, Finland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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