Rum Rat Posted December 23, 2010 #1 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Can I have your opinions and thoughts on this please? Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somerset Cruiser Posted December 23, 2010 #2 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Can I have your opinions and thoughts on this please? Mike You mean as in the Grand Class ships? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rum Rat Posted December 23, 2010 Author #3 Share Posted December 23, 2010 You mean as in the Grand Class ships? No.'People' as in 'String Vests' and 'Butlins at Sea' :-)) Taking soup off a soup spoon or 'shoving the whole thing in your gob' sort of thing ;-)) Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROSEBASKETS Posted December 23, 2010 #4 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Can you give us a class list? Is one using the A, B, C1, C2, D, E classification or the US, Chinese, Hindu or Korean system And for our information could you define your "class" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somerset Cruiser Posted December 23, 2010 #5 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Oh you mean breeding, know your place and that stuff. It don't bother me much, I am happy to mix with those who have an inside cabin, even eat with them if I have to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiB Posted December 23, 2010 #6 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Oh you mean breeding, know your place and that stuff. It don't bother me much, I am happy to mix with those who have an inside cabin, even eat with them if I have to. No no no we could never associate with any one not in a superior cabin. It would lower the whole tone. Happy cruising Dai Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BORDER REIVER Posted December 23, 2010 #7 Share Posted December 23, 2010 Class is something you cannot buy or pretend to have, no matter how hard you try and you can usually spot someone with real class a short while after meeting them. I've seen people on ships dressed immaculately, well-spoken and well educated, but there's always some little thing that lets them down. There was a woman in the village where I grew up, who had a large family and wasn't well off. She worked hard and never, ever spoke ill of anyone, always found some good in every person and nobody ever had a bad word to say about her. Now that's what I call class. I have to admit, I do my best but would fail when it comes to class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medwaywhite Posted December 23, 2010 #8 Share Posted December 23, 2010 1st cruise on the25th jan got my knotted hanky ready . cant wait Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROSEBASKETS Posted December 23, 2010 #9 Share Posted December 23, 2010 got my knotted hanky ready Now that is class! Have a great time. You can always tell a man with real class, he has a hankie for his head and a seperate one for his nose :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rum Rat Posted December 24, 2010 Author #10 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Now that is class! Have a great time. You can always tell a man with real class, he has a hankie for his head and a seperate one for his nose :D Read Anthony Minghella's "Two Planks and a Passion" :D:D Mike AKA Thomas Zachary :). :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROSEBASKETS Posted December 24, 2010 #11 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Read Anthony Minghella's "Two Planks and a Passion" :D:D Mike AKA Thomas Zachary :). :D Sorry Mike, that's about 4 1/2 foot over my head :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rum Rat Posted December 24, 2010 Author #12 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Sorry Mike, that's about 4 1/2 foot over my head :confused: I will have the speakers lowered for you :rolleyes: . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Single Cruiser Posted December 24, 2010 #13 Share Posted December 24, 2010 So first question do you associate a "class" to a certain "SEG" (Social Economic Group). Someone who has been "brought up" in a deprived inner-city suburb is always going to have a different opinion from someone who lives on a country estate and got bought a horse for their 13th Birthday! The question of class in the cruising industry has always been like the Titanic era, where the 1st class dressed for dinner whilst those in 3rd/steerage below decks were drinking, dancing and having fun.. The problem you have is when people use "class" as a way of defining a persons social behaviour or likeability.. Because they don't move their soup spoon away from them, use the wrong knife for a meal course.. The world becomes a better place where class is removed and people look beyond what someone wears, how they eat, who they worship.. So maybe on the extremes you are unlikely to get a Lord doing a cruise on Easycruise or a minimum wage shop assistant on a cruise on Cunard. On the mainstream cruise lines, which I now include P&O, Carnival and RCI you will get a mixture of "classes" some arrogant snobs, some loud-mouthed tattooed drunk. During my recent RCI cruise it was interesting to note that on formal nights outside the main dining area it was about 50/50 in the theatre/lounges with people in Jeans sitting next to those still in the Tuxes but there was never a bad comment or avoidance of conversations etc between the groups. So in summary class and cruising is only something if you make it something.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Welsh Man Posted December 24, 2010 #14 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Class is something you cannot buy or pretend to have, no matter how hard you try and you can usually spot someone with real class a short while after meeting them. I've seen people on ships dressed immaculately, well-spoken and well educated, but there's always some little thing that lets them down. There was a woman in the village where I grew up, who had a large family and wasn't well off. She worked hard and never, ever spoke ill of anyone, always found some good in every person and nobody ever had a bad word to say about her. Now that's what I call class. I have to admit, I do my best but would fail when it comes to class Great Answer. Hope you enjoy your Christmas and New Year! Carl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
u2cruiser Posted December 24, 2010 #15 Share Posted December 24, 2010 So first question do you associate a "class" to a certain "SEG" (Social Economic Group). Someone who has been "brought up" in a deprived inner-city suburb is always going to have a different opinion from someone who lives on a country estate and got bought a horse for their 13th Birthday! The question of class in the cruising industry has always been like the Titanic era, where the 1st class dressed for dinner whilst those in 3rd/steerage below decks were drinking, dancing and having fun.. The problem you have is when people use "class" as a way of defining a persons social behaviour or likeability.. Because they don't move their soup spoon away from them, use the wrong knife for a meal course.. The world becomes a better place where class is removed and people look beyond what someone wears, how they eat, who they worship.. So maybe on the extremes you are unlikely to get a Lord doing a cruise on Easycruise or a minimum wage shop assistant on a cruise on Cunard. On the mainstream cruise lines, which I now include P&O, Carnival and RCI you will get a mixture of "classes" some arrogant snobs, some loud-mouthed tattooed drunk. During my recent RCI cruise it was interesting to note that on formal nights outside the main dining area it was about 50/50 in the theatre/lounges with people in Jeans sitting next to those still in the Tuxes but there was never a bad comment or avoidance of conversations etc between the groups. So in summary class and cruising is only something if you make it something.. Thanks for expressing so eloquently the response I have been trying to think of this morning lol! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanlyon Posted December 24, 2010 #16 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Actually although I agree with the above, when I was a stewardess, I met quite a few real aristocrats, Lords and Ladies and they were totally delightful, easy to chat to - in short they had real class. I also met some nouveau riche who had come into money from some means or another and they talked to you like you were a piece of mud or a servant. Manners maketh man in my book. Manners come from your parents. Mine had no money, but they were a classy pair :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Major Pratt Posted December 24, 2010 #17 Share Posted December 24, 2010 I have made observations on this subject in my "NO CLASS" and "TOTAL CLASS" reviews about Azura and QM2 respectively, To find them just google "Major Pratt cruise review". Warm regards from Major Pratt and my lady wife. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medwaywhite Posted December 24, 2010 #18 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Now that is class! Have a great time. You can always tell a man with real class, he has a hankie for his head and a seperate one for his nose :D going shopping in the sales. to buy a second hankie. many thanks ,got to be real class for my 1st cruise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rum Rat Posted December 24, 2010 Author #19 Share Posted December 24, 2010 going shopping in the sales.to buy a second hankie. many thanks ,got to be real class for my 1st cruise You will need a third one :rolleyes: Thomas Zachary . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rum Rat Posted December 24, 2010 Author #20 Share Posted December 24, 2010 You will need a third one :rolleyes: Thomas Zachary . Anne ‘Richard show him your wipe’ Oxford ‘What’s this?’ Richard ‘My wipe’ Oxford ‘I’m lost’ Richard produces a large handkerchief and blows his nose ‘Ha!’ Richard hands it to Anne who blows her nose Richard ‘Robert’ Robert blows his nose. He laughs. ‘It saves the sleeve, eh?’ Oxford ‘Whose invention is this?’ Anne ‘Richards’ Oxford ‘Tis very strange’ Richard ‘How strange! ‘Tis very wonderous! I have many and use them variously: one for the nose; one for the arse; one for the brow’ Anne ‘An he mix them up’ “Two Planks and a Passion” Anthony Minghella Act 1 Scene 2 Set in 1392 . . Thus you need three :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jodanuke Posted December 24, 2010 #21 Share Posted December 24, 2010 Class means nothing these days. Give me someone with good manners any day of the week and they will rise above anyone, no matter what supposed class they are meant or claiming to be. It is good manners which is need, nothing else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blitznbobs Posted December 24, 2010 #22 Share Posted December 24, 2010 YOu know you've got class when you can say the 'f' word and still sound posh... Class is about a confidence about who you are and where you come from - so there is no need to put others down... Until I had children, I tended to frequent more high class establishments than cruise liners, (I'm a great fan of the the Four Seasons and Sofitel hotels and like to Safari in style)... Does this mean I have class - not necessarily - just money. I went to public school and am a doctor (of medicine) and am a paid member of the Judiciary... does this mean I have class? I doubt it. I grew up in the country and could ride horses by the age of 2 and keep my horses at home... does this mean I have class? Not necessarily (just mucky finger nails) Upper class / middle class / working class is not something you earn and not something you learn... it is something you are and it is very difficult but not impossible to move between classes... It is about the way you treat and act towards other people... The cruises I have been on have (P&O, Cunard and princess) all have a mixture of classes all I would think would class themselves as 'middle class'... All I know is if you have to make anyone feel inferior to make yourself feel superior you have no class at all. Blitz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeanlyon Posted December 25, 2010 #23 Share Posted December 25, 2010 Blitz well said and Merry Christmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovccruiser Posted December 25, 2010 #24 Share Posted December 25, 2010 You do not need class to travel first class, you need money:D If your cabin is on deck 12, do you look down on those on lower decks? Hope this link works http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0DUsGSMwZY&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom_uk Posted December 25, 2010 #25 Share Posted December 25, 2010 Hope this link works http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0DUs...eature=related Thank you! - I haven't seen one that for years. Good to see Ronnie Corbett is still treading the boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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