Dress code.....

[SusieV]

We have gone on at least 20+ cruises, several being Celebrity. I have seen very few individuals in jeans in MDR and they were not asked to leave. You must realize that jeans are not considered to be casual by some standards, many were dressed up in jeans with dress shoes. I do remember wearing gowns and tuxedos but they were never the majority of the dining room. I think it has gone where it needs to go to let you choose. You do not need to EVER dress up to go to the casino and NO ONE looks down at you! I am not staying in my formal attire and going into a smoke filled room, they are happy to have you spend your money in any attire.

 

I would love to hear by what standards jeans aren't considered casual. Seriously.

 

What would I have to wear to go casual, then? Overalls? :rolleyes:

 

Definitely no smoke in the casino but most people still dress appropriately on formal night. I have seen people wearing gym shorts and T shirts with slogans on them on formal night though, which did spoil the ambiance a little (note- I've never seen that in the MDR or I would have said something- just in the casino or bars). Flame away- yes I am one of those people :D You'll find me in the casino pretty much every evening and on formal nights expect to see my husband in a tux and me in a long gown. It's very James Bond and we love it.

 

I miss the time when we had informal nights as well as the dress code applying to the entire ship.

[Joedog]

There is no smoking allowed in the casino and until fairly recently formalwear was required in the casino on formal night.

 

I have never sailed Celebrity but I assume you have and know better so I will stand corrected and change my statement to:

 

That is why there will never "again" be a dress code in the Casino.

 

I might add that although I have only been cruising for about 8 years, I have cruised on 5 different lines so far, and in my time there has never been an "enforced" dress code for any of the ship's casinos that I have noticed.

 

It might be a bit cynical of me, but I would assume that the cruise lines have run the dollars and figured out that they make more money that way AND that the majority of Casino patrons like it better without the dress code.

 

Frankly, although I applaud them for it, I am surprised that Celebrity has banned smoking in the Casino. I would be interested in knowing if the Casino profits have gone up our down since then. Hopefully they go up and all the rest of the cruise lines will follow suit and ban smoking. Not that I am against a person smoking if they want to, I just would rather not be forced to choose between sitting next to someone smoking while I gamble or not gamble at all.

[eandj]

Just got off a 11 dayer on the Equinox on Friday. Fantastic trip which I will comment on later. BUT...to add to this thread, I have never been on a X cruise where people dressed NICER than what we observed on this one. I was totally impressed by the atmosphere. Mind you this was our 5th or 6th cruise on X. This cruise had the passengers dressing in very nice outfits on every evening. Many women wearing pretty dresses, and fancier pants outfits even on smart casual nights.

Formal nights had maybe only 15% of men in tuxes or white dinner jackets. 80%+ in suits or sport coats (mostly navy blazers). I had my dh even hunt with me, for men not wearing jackets and honestly both in the restaurant and in the line for select diners, we saw a total of 7 men with white shirts and ties, no jackets, on the first formal night. Out of the large number of men passengers we passed and "stalked" it really amazed me. Perhaps it was becasue it was a longer cruise and not a 7 day quicky on the Solstice. ( I did notice a bit more casual on that ship last Jan. ) I saw absolutely NO shorts in the casino which I regularly visited. On formal nights the least dressed men in the bars and public areas had changed into khakis with polo shirts. (smart casual). No t shirts. No flip flops or shorts (beach wear) . Surprisingly I also missed seeing ANY jeans in the MDR. Even dark ones. Believe me when I say I hunted for anyone dressed against or "pushing" the basic guidelines.

 

By the way, the age of the cruisers on this cruise was spread from 20 year old honeymooners to people in their 80's. LOTS of people in the 50's. I counted 8 kids the whole trip.

[bradpole]

OK,

 

I have to ask this...

 

I've been reading where it is OK for someone to wear casual clothing to the specialty restaurants on formal night. Why is it OK to go casual, to a restaurant when everyone in there paid more for that dinner and it isn't OK to go casually to dinner in the MDR when that meal is free or included.

 

If formal night is optional in the pay restaurants why can't it also be optional for the MDR?

[redridinghood]

We chose Celebrity over other American lines because we read much on here about the dress code being enforced on formal nights, however we were really disappointed that this did not seem to be the case.

 

My husband wore a tux on formal nights and seemed to be in a minority of about 10%. Part of the reason we cruise is because we want to dress up and be in that ambiance for a couple of nights a week at least. Cunard was too much for us and we were put off P&O as there seems to be more and more 'rowdy' Brits on board, they overcrowd the passengers and the food is disappointing. We thought Celebrity would be the ideal match and we absolutely loved the ship, such a shame that people don't seem to want the 'sense of occasion' that the formal nights offer on such a stunning ship.

 

Seems the thinking now is that people want to cruise on whatever ship they want and wear whatever they want, so they will.

[bfork1]

All of this from a society that will wear ANYTHING to Church to worship, but will wear a suit to a funeral.

[Cap'n Cork]

How unfortunate! I've gradually come to the belief that cruises are not only vacations paid for with hard-earned dollars (or Euros, Loonies, etc.), but that formal nights ought to be enjoyed.

 

Let's face it. Formal nights are in many respects a shared fantasy, co-created by people choosing to dress up and the more people who do so, the nicer it is for those who really want to have those special nights aboard ship. I'm not impressed by the Five-Star jerks who would wear a tee shirt, ragged cut-offs and flip-flops in the main dining room on formal night.

 

I think it's good manners and respectful to my fellow passengers to dress up for formal nights. Not that I'm a member of the Fashion Police, but the only sartorial exceptions I'd make would be for High Goths (Think Morticia and Gomez Addams if not Uncle Fester), people in exotic materials (as long as they're in ballroom cut), people who would dress up like 17th century pirates (Say Blackbeard in full waist coat) or local aristocrats out on the town, or those few unfortunate souls who lost their luggage or had problems with the clothing rental outfits.

 

My fingers are crossed concerning the Summit this Saturday.

 

On the most recent cruise, that dress code wasn't observed. Many people really dressed down. I saw people who didn't even dress smart casual on formal nights. Flipflops and souvenir tee shirts on formal night are awful. However, it happened. The guy in the CVS teeshirt was the worst dressed formal person that I have ever seen. That shirt was so bad...stained. Even if the airline lost their luggage, the ship will give you better clothes to wear and lend you formal attire. There is no excuse for the poor attire. I even heard somebody say that people dress better on Carnival. In the effort to sell cabins, Celebrity is overlooking the dress code. Remember "X the rules."

[jaybird from SC]

Just back. If there is a dress code, nobody seems to care. Jeans are the norm in the MDR. Formal night is a joke. To many it means jeans without holes. There were guests on formal night at the captain's table that wore no jackets, collarless shirts, no ties, and capris with flipflops. I remember when people were told to redress out of jeans to eat dinner in the MDR. Now nobody stops the jean people from entering. This attitude will propel itself into more people dressing down. Years ago, on formal nights tuxedos and gowns were the norm. Then it became dark suits and cocktail dresses. Now it is anything that you wish. Celebrity should drop the dress code from their literature or enforce it.

Which ship? We just returned last night from Constellation. Not saying that there wasn't any but we did not see any "inappropriate" dress in the MDR, theater, etc. Most nights were smart casual and it seems that overall people made an effort to dress accordingly.

[rlsii488]

How unfortunate! I've gradually come to the belief that cruises are not only vacations paid for with hard-earned dollars (or Euros' date=' Loonies, etc.), but that formal nights ought to be enjoyed.

 

Let's face it. Formal nights are in many respects a shared fantasy, co-created by people choosing to dress up and the more people who do so, the nicer it is for those who really want to have those special nights aboard ship. I'm not impressed by the Five-Star jerks who would wear a tee shirt, ragged cut-offs and flip-flops in the main dining room on formal night.

 

I think it's good manners and respectful to my fellow passengers to dress up for formal nights. Not that I'm a member of the Fashion Police, but the only sartorial exceptions I'd make would be for High Goths (Think Morticia and Gomez Addams if not Uncle Fester), people in exotic materials (as long as they're in ballroom cut), people who would dress up like 17th century pirates (Say Blackbeard in full waist coat) or local aristocrats out on the town, or those few unfortunate souls who lost their luggage or had problems with the clothing rental outfits.

 

My fingers are crossed concerning the Summit this Saturday.[/quote']

 

 

 

I completely agree vacations are paid for with hard earned money. Not once did I ever say that i was going to wear my shorts and t-shirt in the MDR. I will be sitting at a Blackjack table with my legs under the table. I will only be conversing with only the Dealer, cocktail waitress and of course my beautiful wife when she comes by with words of encouragement. If the nosey people "hunting" for people dressed "inappropriatly" were not "hunting" for me, they would probably not even notice me.

[caribbean52010]

Let me get this right! So now I can pack my bib overalls and wear with a tie?

[jimandtoni]

While I agree that one's clothes are not an absolute indicator of class, only one without class would knowingly go against the dress code that is put in place.

Exactly! I have very little patience with the "I don't care what anyone else thinks" mentality.

[tip]

One might say that someone with "class" would refrain from negative comments on how others choose to dress!;)

[SilkShirt]

My wife and I dress up for work every day.

The last thing I want to pack for vacation is work clothes. I will wear a dark suit on the formal nights, even though we'll be in a specialty restaurant.

 

Its not politically correct to speak of people being in different classes.

Being honest, When we take our yearly trip to Las Vegas we always stay at the Bellagio. We feel comfortable with the other guests and enjoy the hotel.

When we go to a show at a different hotel(with some exceptions Venetion, Wynn)

walking through the hotel to get to the show, passing Joe six-pack with his mullet hairdo, and his cigarette smoking wife Bambi ,

the 1982 Miss Trailer Park Queen, 2nd runner up;

my wife always says "I'm glad we're not staying here!"

 

Yes it's a class thing.

[Mr. Luckytoo]

Like I said in my first post, I have no problem with dressing up for dinner. My question/concern is if i am able to enjoy my evening in some more comfortable clothes such as shorts and a t-shirt while having a few drinks and gambling.

 

I GUESS it will be ok. I mean if you want to be a slob on vacation go ahead. You can lead a pig to water but you just can't dress 'em up.

 

BTW if this bothers you try Carnival or NCL where you'll fit right in.

 

Oh I forget - dress codes; X the rules!

[Bridge Maven]

I agree that formal vs casual attire is not a class issue. In fact, most of the luxury cruise lines don't even have formal nights. Someone can look like a slob in a formal evening gown that does not fit them properly, while another passenger can look very classy in nice casual clothes that are appropriate for their age and body type.

 

A person with class strives to make everyone they interact with feel comfortable in their presence, so in my opinion criticizing someone for the way they dress is a lot worse than not following a dress code.

 

On the other hand, since there are so many different options for how to dress on formal nights these days, I think people should comply with that dress code when it exists.

[capecodder2]

We just completed a cruise on the Equinox. About 98% of those who ate in the MDR on the 2 formal nights, were dressed in tux/dinner jacket, suits, sports coat with shirt and tie (some no tie). A few men were dressed in a polo/golf type shirt and dockers. They stayed in that attire for the evening. Other evenings found the male passengers dressed in long pants and polo or golf type shirts - few shorts were seen after 6PM and no beachwear like flip-flops. Why is it that the few in shorts, etc. after 6PM are always men with big bellies and stained t-shirt and shorts? Just curious.

[simoncha]

Discussiosn on class? - the lunacy of it all put me in mind of an old sketch with the Two Ronnies and John Cleese

 

Class sketch link

[Mr. Luckytoo]

Discussiosn on class? - the lunacy of it all put me in mind of an old sketch with the Two Ronnies and John Cleese

 

Class sketch link

 

I hadn't seen that skit before - thanks for the chuckle!

[Joedog]

I GUESS it will be ok. I mean if you want to be a slob on vacation go ahead. You can lead a pig to water but you just can't dress 'em up.

 

BTW if this bothers you try Carnival or NCL where you'll fit right in.

 

Oh I forget - dress codes; X the rules!

 

In the short time that I have been reading the Celebrity boards in preparation for my Summit cruise this summer you have not failed to impress me with remarks.

 

If everyone on Celebrity is like you I am sure to have a wonderful cruise.

[PS90]

I GUESS it will be ok. I mean if you want to be a slob on vacation go ahead. You can lead a pig to water but you just can't dress 'em up.

 

BTW if this bothers you try Carnival or NCL where you'll fit right in.

 

Ummmm, your post is a little bit contradictory. If anyone wants to dress casually on a cruise (be a "slob" according to you), then it seems to bother OTHER people who have strong issue with this way of dressing, not the person who is the "slob". So why would the casually-dressed person need to change cruiselines? Seems to me that the person who is bothered by the affairs of others should change to a more snooty, less mainstream cruiseline. You know - the cruiselines who typically cater to cruisers who have no clue that the rest of the world's fashions are trending toward a more-casual style.

 

Or, maybe your post was meant to be sarcastic and I missed it....:confused:

 

Either way, I've got my mullet trimmed just right and my Wranglers packed for Solstice coming up...

[Ma Bell]

Most people who know fashion are aware that the trend to casual is really old hat and it is trending back toward a more dressed up environment. Take a look at the latest fashion magazines. For a while it was all about jeans, but times have changed. With all the new fabrics that look great but are easy care, it's possible to be both stylish and comfortable. Get with the times!

[Mr. Luckytoo]

Or, maybe your post was meant to be sarcastic and I missed it....:confused:

 

Yup!

 

Either way, I've got my mullet trimmed just right and my Wranglers packed for Solstice coming up...

 

This whole dress code issue revolves around several concepts, for example:

 

1. It's MY vacation and I'm going to do what I want to do

2. Screw the rules I'm going to do what I want to do

3. I don't really care about what people think I'll dress however I want to

 

Simply put most people who don't want to abide by the suggested dress codes are in reality just being:

 

(A) selfish

(B) self-centered

© rude

(D) ignorant (meaning they don't know)

(E) all of the above.

 

Sorry but I don't buy the argument that one can only be comfortable in shorts and a t-shirt. I can be just as comfortable sitting in slacks/kakki's with a polo shirt/short sleeve shirt.

 

As for formal night - I understand people NOT wanting to wear tux's/gowns and as long as they look presentable and business casual I don't have a problem. Heck I UNDERSTAND some people can't dress up for medical problems - it doesn't make my food taste any differently.

 

What I can't stand is the ATTITUDE moreso than the clothing.

 

Standards are established for a reason - not everyone can live up to them. To those people who want to live below the standard go ahead - just do it somewhere else and stop pulling the rest of us down! :cool:

 

PS I hope you're on my Solstice cruise - I wanna show you my croc boots I bought in Cozumel - love em! :)

[Mr. Luckytoo]

In the short time that I have been reading the Celebrity boards in preparation for my Summit cruise this summer you have not failed to impress me with remarks.

 

If everyone on Celebrity is like you I am sure to have a wonderful cruise.

 

Joe I can assure the majority of Celebrity cruises are wonderful, gracious, well-mannered, well-dressed and considerate cruisers; much better than myself! :p

[PS90]

Most people who know fashion are aware that the trend to casual is really old hat and it is trending back toward a more dressed up environment. Take a look at the latest fashion magazines. For a while it was all about jeans, but times have changed. With all the new fabrics that look great but are easy care, it's possible to be both stylish and comfortable. Get with the times!

 

There is a HUGE difference between the ongoing fashion trend that has evolved throughout the last half-century or so - which involves an ongoing decrease in the "formality" standards of dress, vs. some current short-term fashion fad of some kind of dressy slacks rather than jeans in the last couple of designer-clothing lines. Grunge was a fad too, for a couple of years in the mid nineties - I don't remember cruise lines adding "flannel shirts" to their dress codes.

 

I am not a "fad" kinda person, and don't really care about what is going on in Milan (or where ever fashion fads begin), but I also don't plan on wearing a tux or formal suit again in my life, ever.

[Blanco-Grande]

On Sols the maitre d's at all the speciality resturants told me there is NO FORMAL enforced in them I saw t shirts in Murano....just as long as they pay