Smoking on Carnival

[MagSeven1413]

Or we could try to change the smoking policy on Carnival to make it a little more friendly toward non-smokers and more in line with the rest of the Cruise industry.

 

I think most cruisers are non-smokers.

 

This is my just my opinion as a non-smoker who loves Carnival.

Carnival is non-smoker friendly. It just isn't as restrictive and limiting as some other lines. If it was smoker friendly, smokers would be allowed to smoke everywhere.

[PrincessLuver]

Well plan on being dissapointed. Ships leaving from California have NO bearing on the smoking policy. I just returned from the Paradise two weeks ago, out of Long Beach, and I would say 50% of the passengers were smoking. Carnival was not enforcing any smoking rules at all. I smoke, it's legal, so deal with it. If you feel that Carnival's smoking policy is not strict enough, try another line.

 

I also sailed the Pride out of Long Beach, and it was the same on there. Just because the fools in California have a strict smoking ban, that has no influence on a cruise ship. The ships at port DON"T have to enforce California law. If that was the case, they wouldn't allow ANY smoking at all on cruise ships.

 

Carnival has no plans on making the smoking rules more strict. They know their passengers, and they also realize they are a "affordable" cruise line that caters to all walks, and that includes smokers.

 

I do not think it is foolish to have strict smoking rules and it is happening more and more. Many companies will not even hire a person if they smoke. They also test people to see if they smoke outside of work. It costs them too much in lost employee time for sickness and also health insurance. Most people I know do not like smoke or enjoy being around smokers. You are the lucky one because you will get to deal with the consequences of your harmful habit as you get older. Cough...Cough...Cough...where is my oxygen tank???? And yes...I hope they keep taxing cigarettes so they become less affordable. The time are a chang'in!! :D

[CarnivalCruiseLover]

I do not think it is foolish to have strict smoking rules and it is happening more and more. Many companies will not even hire a person if they smoke. They also test people to see if they smoke outside of work. It costs them too much in lost employee time for sickness and also health insurance. Most people I know do not like smoke or enjoy being around smokers. You are the lucky one because you will get to deal with the consequences of your harmful habit as you get older. Cough...Cough...Cough...where is my oxygen tank???? And yes...I hope they keep taxing cigarettes so they become less affordable. The time are a chang'in!! :D

 

I am the lucky one as well that I get to ruin your cruise by enjoying the fact that Carnival doesn't enforce their smoking policy, and I smoke wherever you go on the cruise. They can tax all the want, I will still buy.

[D-Roc]

I would suggest placing your baby in a see thru plastic bubble, and wheel it around behind you in a cart that is self enclosed with a oxygen machine trailing behind it.

 

 

I would suggest to have all smokers be placed in a transparent bubble of their own and there would be no need for an oxygen regulator and they could enjoy the toxins of their cigarettes. They could still get around by rolling around in their bubble and enjoy the ship.

[CarnivalCruiseLover]

I would suggest to have all smokers be placed in a transparent bubble of their own and there would be no need for an oxygen regulator and they could enjoy the toxins of their cigarettes. They could still get around by rolling around in their bubble and enjoy the ship.

 

That bubble is called the casino, disco, piano bar, etc. LOL

[Crusing Nut]

I do not think it is foolish to have strict smoking rules and it is happening more and more. Many companies will not even hire a person if they smoke. They also test people to see if they smoke outside of work. It costs them too much in lost employee time for sickness and also health insurance. Most people I know do not like smoke or enjoy being around smokers. You are the lucky one because you will get to deal with the consequences of your harmful habit as you get older. Cough...Cough...Cough...where is my oxygen tank???? And yes...I hope they keep taxing cigarettes so they become less affordable. The time are a chang'in!! :D

 

Oh my lord. What a thing to say. People lose a lot of work due to hang overs to. People lose friends and families to alcoholism also. Young and old die from liver diseases.

 

It is people's choice to smoke or not to smoke. The same goes for heavy drinkers. As far as the cough cough cough, where is my oxygen tank... you do realize that smoking is not always the cause right?

[mcwebber]

I am the lucky one as well that I get to ruin your cruise by enjoying the fact that Carnival doesn't enforce their smoking policy, and I smoke wherever you go on the cruise. They can tax all the want, I will still buy.

 

Fortunately you won't live long enough to really enjoy it.

[Yvonne]

I'm really surprised the Carnival still allows people to smoke inside their cabins. It seems like that gives the stateroom attendant a lot more work to do in wiping down the walls, steam cleaning the carpet, etc. etc. if the next occupants of the room complain about the stale smoke smell.

 

I heard on the news that only 1 in 5 people smokes. The majority of people do not, yet they have to deal with the unwanted harmfulness and smell of it. More and more places are going completely non-smoking. I do understand on a cruise ship there needs to be somewhere that smokers can go to smoke, but just not so many places. Make all of the bars and lounges, etc. non smoking so EVERYONE can enjoy them, and not just the smokers.

 

I remember my Grandpa was so upset when the nursing home he was in made it against the rules to smoke in the patient rooms. He had smoked most of his life and suffered terribly from emphysema, yet still smoked. He had to be wheeled (he couldn't walk that far) to the smoking room to smoke and he complained every time. I think the cruise ships should have one or two special smoking rooms (with doors so most of the smoke stays in the room), and one side of the open air decks for the smokers. No more smoking in staterooms or balconies.

 

The majority should speak out more about how they feel about not being able to enjoy their balconies, or go to the piano bar, etc. because of the smoke.

 

Yes, we ALL paid for the cruise, we ALL should be able to enjoy it but why do some (not all) smokers feel that non-smokers should have to endure their smoke as well? Is it really that hard to get up from the table (in a bar) and go outside to smoke a cigarette and then come back in? That way EVERYONE could enjoy the music in the bar or at the piano, etc. and not just the smokers. Why should non-smokers just avoid those places? They paid for their cruise too, but if they are sensitive to the smoke and it triggers their asthma, or makes their eyes water and throat get sore, etc. but they can't enjoy them because of the thick smoke.

 

I am not one to cough, cough, cough when in a place that smoking is allowed. I do think that is childish and only results in the smoker getting defensive. But if I see someone smoking in a non-smoking area, I will speak up.

[Elmer McCurdy]

Not sure I understand how you keep the smoke out of the "smoke free" area of the Casino.

 

The smoke free ship was quite a few years ago and times change.

 

It's becoming a smoke free world and the cruise lines will follow that trend in my opinion.

 

I too love Carnival and hope to someday see smoking allowed only in areas on the open decks.

 

Having a smoke-free area is really more of a matter of ventilation. They are able to filter the smoke extremely well in a small area so that the level of toxins is no worse than any other non-smoking part of the ship. (And yes, you're still subject to toxins even if no one is smoking.)

 

I agree with your open deck area and I'm a smoker. I don't like smoking inside as it means the smoke stays on me. Smoking outside tends to mitigate that issue. But of course, you're subject to all the other toxins coming out of the ship's exhaust. ;)

[mcwebber]

Having a smoke-free area is really more of a matter of ventilation. They are able to filter the smoke extremely well in a small area so that the level of toxins is no worse than any other non-smoking part of the ship. (And yes, you're still subject to toxins even if no one is smoking.)

 

That's simply not true. If you can smell the cigarette smoke you are breathing the smoke.

 

http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/library/secondhandsmoke/factsheets/factsheet7.html

[pnjkeith]

We are non-smokers and are taking our first cruise. We understand that we will have to deal with some smoking but it is unfortunate that CCL has not updated its policies to match the rest of the world. Smokers have a choice to smoke or not when wanting to participate in a event or go to an area of the ship that is non-smoking. The habits of non-smokers do not affect smokers and prevent them from going to certain bars, etc. The majority are non-smokers and this needs to be reflect more in their policies.

 

But I am sure we will enjoy our cruise regardless.

 

If you have never cruised before, how do you know who the majority is. Wait till you go to the casino or piano bar. You will find out why Carnival allows smoking.

[pnjkeith]

That's simply not true. If you can smell the cigarette smoke you are breathing the smoke.

 

http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/library/secondhandsmoke/factsheets/factsheet7.html

 

Another crock of sh...!

[D-Roc]

If you have never cruised before, how do you know who the majority is. Wait till you go to the casino or piano bar. You will find out why Carnival allows smoking.

 

Knowing that the majority of people in the world (at least in NA) has nothing to do with the fact that I have not cruised yet.

 

As one person put it so well. Everyone should be able to enjoy the bars/lounges. Not just the smokers.

[Elmer McCurdy]

That's simply not true. If you can smell the cigarette smoke you are breathing the smoke.

 

http://www.surgeongeneral.gov/library/secondhandsmoke/factsheets/factsheet7.html

 

You know what that link doesn't say? That even if you can smell the smoke you are doing your body irreparable damage. If I can have my body return to normal heart and lung functions within six months of quiting a pack a day habit, I imagine you can have normal heart and lung functions within hours of being around second-hand smoke for a couple of minutes.

[Wanna_Cruise]

I smoke. I stay at hotels that have smoking rooms available. I do not stay where there is a no smoking policy. I cruise with Carnival because they try to accomodate both, the smoker and the non-smoker. If they did not, I would not cruise with them.

 

At dinner one evening, we happened to hear a couple at another table discussing with their waiter about smelling someone smoking in another cabin on their deck. The waiter sympathized with the couple and seemed to say all the right things to them to make them feel vindicated by "reporting the incident". But the fact is, smoking IS ALLOWED in your own cabin. I think it is a mistake for crew, stewards, waiters, etc. not to state the policy. That is why there is so much confusion. When talking about smoking to anyone, hotel, cruise, etc. they immediately become defensive and think you are a non-smoker complaining about a smoker and they go into what I call "poo poo, conjole mode" instead of stating the real policy and telling the truth. As a smoker, they know they better be bluntly honest about their policy. But to a non-smoker, they are less than candid.

 

On this last cruise, I was going to book a future cruise on the Magic. The very first question and the really only IMPORTANT question for me was about the smoking policy on this new ship. The crew member went into "conjole mode" and tried to poo poo my question not realizing that I was a smoker. Oh, there would be STRICTER smoking policies on the new ship and smoking would only be allowed on balconies, yada yada yada, so I did not book a cruise. I wanted until I got back and called my PVP with Carnival to ask about the Magic and it's smoking policies. I was told that there was no variation on ANY of Carnival's ships. It was ONE smoking policy for ALL ships.

 

What I am trying to point out is you get a variety of information depending on whether or not the "answerer" thinks you are a smoker or nonsmoker. Try it for yourself and see what results you get. I can see why there are unhappy nonsmokers that are stirred up. They don't get the FACTS or the blunt policy when they ask for it.

[babies12]

Ah geez! Enough already with all this B.S. This thread is just getting way out of control. Time for the mods to lock this one PLEASE!

[Elmer McCurdy]

The waiter sympathized with the couple and seemed to say all the right things to them to make them feel vindicated by "reporting the incident". But the fact is, smoking IS ALLOWED in your own cabin. I think it is a mistake for crew, stewards, waiters, etc. not to state the policy.

 

I don't agree. I'd hate to see that waiter be verbally brow-beaten and abused for explaining a policy they did not create and cannot enforce. Most people don't want to have things explained to them. They want to be told they are correct. Sad but true.

[capndinghy]

If you are a RABID anti Smoker then Cancel your reservation by all means!

 

I am just off the Ecstasy last week and can tell you that although smoking is allowed it was NOT a problem.

 

Have Fun on Brand X

[mcwebber]

You know what that link doesn't say? That even if you can smell the smoke you are doing your body irreparable damage. If I can have my body return to normal heart and lung functions within six months of quiting a pack a day habit, I imagine you can have normal heart and lung functions within hours of being around second-hand smoke for a couple of minutes.

 

You can't reverse permanent damage to the lungs.

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1819144,00.html

[babies12]

Since the mods allow this stupid thread to keep going, how about we include this: What is the Balcony Club? How do I join?

[mcwebber]

At dinner one evening, we happened to hear a couple at another table discussing with their waiter about smelling someone smoking in another cabin on their deck. The waiter sympathized with the couple and seemed to say all the right things to them to make them feel vindicated by "reporting the incident". But the fact is, smoking IS ALLOWED in your own cabin. I think it is a mistake for crew, stewards, waiters, etc. not to state the policy.

 

It's not the waiters job to be the source of cabin smoking policies. He wants his tips from someone who doesn't like smoking. Even if he knows it's allowed, he's not going to tell them to just deal with it. He wants a tip at the end of the cruise.

[Elmer McCurdy]

You can't reverse permanent damage to the lungs.

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1819144,00.html

 

You can't reverse COPD and emphysema. You can get your cilia to work again. That's stated clearly in that article.

 

(And you can't reverse permanent damage to anything. Because it's permanent.)

[Elmer McCurdy]

Since the mods allow this stupid thread to keep going, how about we include this: What is the Balcony Club? How do I join?

 

It's the Mile High Club. But for cruise ship balconies. I think the rest is self-explanatory.

[pnjkeith]

Since the mods allow this stupid thread to keep going, how about we include this: What is the Balcony Club? How do I join?

 

If you do not enjoy this thread move on to another.

[G'ma]

Maybe ask Carnival how many non-smokers have burned holes in the furniture and carpets or caused them to spend millions on cleaning and labor.

Or, ask them how much the smoldering cigarette that started the fire on the Star Princess cost.

 

http://www.bing.com/videos/watch/video/cigarette-started-fatal-cruise-ship-fire/6jpf51w

 

Like hotels, restaurants and other places of business, cruise lines have a budget for maintenance and repairs. It's not just smokers who do damage to ships, bub.

 

As for the Princess fire, if you read the final report by the MAIB, you'll notice that the cause of the fire is unknown.

 

What I found interesting in the report, however, is the statement that the fires spread so quickly due to the flammable balcony furniture and the opened balcony doors that caused such a draft to let the fire spread so quickly.

 

If you are interested, here is a link to that report.

 

http://www.maib.gov.uk/cms_resources.cfm?file=/Star%20Princess.pdf