happyaussies Posted October 19, 2011 #101 Share Posted October 19, 2011 as stated "what an interesting topic" Thank you to everyone for their very interesting and sometimes funny posts.. Yes as a south aussie I too am asked if I'm English (Great Britain) I found it mostly when starting secondary school and then recently when I was cruising to Japan...not! from fellow passengers. agree! I think we pronounce the Queen's english appropriately. thanks for a great question mate! B&B PS I shall look forward to the d_ck party when we head to NZ in a few weeks...I shall remember this post and have a little chuckle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky-elpaso Posted October 19, 2011 Author #102 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Hi there,Just had to add my bit to your remarks. I was born, bred and raised in Glenelg SA, now living in NSW for a few decades.....and believe me the devon over here is nothing like the Fritz in SA. Bung fritz is just the best, and I cannot eat the devon here. They think it is the same stuff, but it's not. Also the German cakes are the best in oz. Love the German/English heritage in SA. I still get 'picked on' for my SA accent, with people thinking I am perhaps either a kiwi or a snob. Have never understood the kiwi bit, as I speak nothing like a NZer, and certainly not a snob. I think it is our (SA) English background ie speaking the correct Queens English, and being from a non convict state. That remark is not meant to sound racy at all, just a fact of origin. Funny how your original accent stays with you forever. Jen "Non convict state" - sounds like I should do some reading about Australia's history before we go. I knew a lot of the first English settlers were convicts but really don't know a lot about your history other than that. Guess I'll check Barnes & Noble to see if I can find a book for my Nook. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayteeaitch Posted October 19, 2011 #103 Share Posted October 19, 2011 Generally Queenslanders, Sydneysiders and Melbournites do have a slightly different accent than us South Aussies. For example we say carsle (castle) while the easterners say cassel (castle) Just one example B&B Carsle ( Carsull) is a phonetic Oxford English (Posh) pronunciation - Whereas Cassell is a Northern English pronunciation - ie the use of FLAT vowels used by the original British - before the invasion of the Pommes in the South in 1066:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Gal Posted October 19, 2011 #104 Share Posted October 19, 2011 I don't know about South Australians sounding very English but both my husband and myself have often been taken for being English when overseas. We also pronounce castle as carsle and maul as marl not maal. We southerners also pronounce Cairns as cennes not cannes as Queenslanders do. Also the only convicts to settle in Victoria originally were a few at Sorrento and that settlement didn't last. Melbourne was founded on the Gold Rush and we were also a free State without any penal colonies. Because we were so wealthy back in the 1850's onwards, we were known as 'Marvellous Melbourne" and our city plan which is on a grid was so far forward in thinking as we have great wide streets and loads of beautiful parklands surrounding the city. Jennie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Debsta Posted October 20, 2011 #105 Share Posted October 20, 2011 Geees you all talk funny :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharon2539 Posted October 21, 2011 #106 Share Posted October 21, 2011 OK - I've gained 10 pounds just reading all the answers. Have to say no to prawns or bugs (had to look that one up to find out it's a little lobster) - we don't care for shellfish. Other kinds of regular fish we do like. I think I had heard of Lamingtons - they look good. I've been looking at the Cole's supermarket ads to see what's interesting. I looked vegemite up - sounds kind of strange. :D Thanks everyone. I'll have to start making a list and checking out the websites. Just a hint about the vegemite, most Aussies will say give it a go and I love it myself but I would suggest spreading it very sparingly to start with...:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted October 23, 2011 #107 Share Posted October 23, 2011 Just a hint about the vegemite, most Aussies will say give it a go and I love it myself but I would suggest spreading it very sparingly to start with...:) ...... or not at all. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Princess Posted October 25, 2011 #108 Share Posted October 25, 2011 We often smile when the NZ Cruise Staff refer to the D_ck Party. :D (For anyone who hasn't heard too many NZ'ers, the 'e' in Deck is pronounced as a quick 'i'. So, OK, how does a Kiwi pronounce Deck Six? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Princess Posted October 25, 2011 #109 Share Posted October 25, 2011 "Non convict state" - sounds like I should do some reading about Australia's history before we go. I knew a lot of the first English settlers were convicts but really don't know a lot about your history other than that. Guess I'll check Barnes & Noble to see if I can find a book for my Nook. When you do your research, you'll find that the Poms used to send their convicts to their American colonies, until your War of Independence stopped that. They then had to find another 'colony' to do it, so started Oz. So you blokes are to blame for our 'sordid' past! :D MP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted October 25, 2011 #110 Share Posted October 25, 2011 So, OK, how does a Kiwi pronounce Deck Six? I prefer not to think about that one. :D Instead of saying "six" and being met with lots of laughter, some of the cruise staff play along with the joke by saying "the number between five and seven!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugbypopsie Posted October 25, 2011 #111 Share Posted October 25, 2011 So, OK, how does a Kiwi pronounce Deck Six? ROFL......:eek: "sordid past"..badge of honour for many aussies now...at least it gave us a healthy disrespect for unfair treatment or unjust rules...transportation to Australia was more about poverty than criminality...anyone interested should see the exhibition at Port Arthur in Tasmania..it will reduce you to tears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room010 Posted October 25, 2011 #112 Share Posted October 25, 2011 So, OK, how does a Kiwi pronounce Deck Six? Board rules may prevent this but it rhymes with "sick dux" (swap the first letters). True story. My nephew went to Auckland airport before travelling home and asked a helpful airport employee where his flight was checking in. He was told "go to that chicken disk". Nephew, puzzled, looked around for a KFC outlet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Princess Posted October 25, 2011 #113 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Board rules may prevent this but it rhymes with "sick dux" (swap the first letters). Ohh ohh! Here goes our only other site - after G'Day, Mate! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky-elpaso Posted October 25, 2011 Author #114 Share Posted October 25, 2011 ROFL......:eek: "sordid past"..badge of honour for many aussies now...at least it gave us a healthy disrespect for unfair treatment or unjust rules...transportation to Australia was more about poverty than criminality...anyone interested should see the exhibition at Port Arthur in Tasmania..it will reduce you to tears. Yes, English debtor's prison. I think I remember reading that the first official Australian ambassador to England was a transported "convict" and whoever the Queen was at the time had to then greet him with all the traditional honors (and probably wasn't happy about it). I've read a bit about Port Arthur and that's one of our port excursions we have planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4774Papa Posted October 25, 2011 #115 Share Posted October 25, 2011 When you do your research, you'll find that the Poms used to send their convicts to their American colonies, until your War of Independence stopped that. They then had to find another 'colony' to do it, so started Oz. So you blokes are to blame for our 'sordid' past! :DMP There is a myth that the colony of Georgia was founded by prisoners from a debtor's prison. In fact, only a few colonists came from prison. Also, I am looking for a good book to read outlining Australian history. Can someone recommend one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kartgv Posted October 25, 2011 #116 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Also, I am looking for a good book to read outlining Australian history. Can someone recommend one? Not an in-depth history, but just finished a nice little book called "The Essential Guide to Customs & Culture - Australia" that I picked up at our local Barnes & Noble. It offers a starting point, covering lots of topics. In talking about the convicts "crimes", it says that one person was sent to Australia for the crime of opening a letter addressed to someone else! Most were for things like stealing a loaf of bread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky-elpaso Posted October 25, 2011 Author #117 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Not an in-depth history, but just finished a nice little book called "The Essential Guide to Customs & Culture - Australia" that I picked up at our local Barnes & Noble. It offers a starting point, covering lots of topics. In talking about the convicts "crimes", it says that one person was sent to Australia for the crime of opening a letter addressed to someone else! Most were for things like stealing a loaf of bread. Just checked and they have it for my Nook - off to download it now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Gal Posted October 25, 2011 #118 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I posted this about an hour ago but it seems to have disappeared. A great story about our early settlement is "For the Term of His Natural Life" by Marcus Clarke. It is available at Amazon. It describes what a cruel life most of our convicts had in the early days of settlement here in Australia. Jennie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aus Traveller Posted October 25, 2011 #119 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Yes, English debtor's prison. I think I remember reading that the first official Australian ambassador to England was a transported "convict" and whoever the Queen was at the time had to then greet him with all the traditional honors (and probably wasn't happy about it). I've read a bit about Port Arthur and that's one of our port excursions we have planned. This has to be an urban myth. :) Australia did not come into existence as a country until 1901 and did not have any overseas missions for several decades after that because Great Britain looked after external affairs. Having in mind that transportation of convicts from England to Australia ceased well before 1850, any 'Ambassador' would have been around 100 years old. :)There is also the small matter that Australia has never had an Ambassador in England - only a High Commissioner. Another point is that Queen Victoria died on 22nd January 1901 and the next Queen did not come to the throne until 1952 (crowned in 1953). This sounds like a good story, but I am sorry to say it cannot be true.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky-elpaso Posted October 26, 2011 Author #120 Share Posted October 26, 2011 This has to be an urban myth. :) Australia did not come into existence as a country until 1901 and did not have any overseas missions for several decades after that because Great Britain looked after external affairs. Having in mind that transportation of convicts from England to Australia ceased well before 1850, any 'Ambassador' would have been around 100 years old. :)There is also the small matter that Australia has never had an Ambassador in England - only a High Commissioner. Another point is that Queen Victoria died on 22nd January 1901 and the next Queen did not come to the throne until 1952 (crowned in 1953). This sounds like a good story, but I am sorry to say it cannot be true.:) Another urban legend bites the dust. :) I think what we learn in American schools about Australia probably is pretty sparse. I'm betting that we learn more about the wildlife than about the history, etc. Although it has been a long time since I was in school (graduated from high school in 1964). So I'm looking forward to learning a bit before we come over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alfaz Posted October 28, 2011 #121 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Can't wait to try croc on the Radiance. As for kangaroo, we have it heaps. Started buying it because it was cheaper than beef, low in fat and high in iron. Now our 11 year won't eat a steak but will eat kangaroo. I agree though, marinated, bbq'd and rare. Doyles at Watsons Bay is a must for overseas visitors, then go for a walk to The Gap. Great spot. Vegemite is yuck, not all of us like it. If you like honey, try manuka honey. Ok, it is New Zealand but pretty delicious. Lamingtons are fantastic, no need to say more. Try and find a little bakery to buy them from. Hamburgers with the works are awesome, but can be messy, so make sure you have serviettes or wet wipes with you. There is also, from memory, a great chocolate shop in the main street of Katoomba. Katoomba might be a good spot to look for a little bakery for lamingtons as well. Our local bakery you can buy half a dozen for $6 with cream in the middle. I personally don't like the jam in the middle as well but some do. Might pop down tomorrow and get some for the weekend. Love all the advice and suggestions, have a great time in Sydney. Cheers Leah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thied Posted October 28, 2011 #122 Share Posted October 28, 2011 the question is what to eat in Australia. Anser is everything as you wil taste the whole world of food. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky-elpaso Posted October 28, 2011 Author #123 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Can't wait to try croc on the Radiance. As for kangaroo, we have it heaps. Started buying it because it was cheaper than beef, low in fat and high in iron. Now our 11 year won't eat a steak but will eat kangaroo. I agree though, marinated, bbq'd and rare. Doyles at Watsons Bay is a must for overseas visitors, then go for a walk to The Gap. Great spot. Vegemite is yuck, not all of us like it. If you like honey, try manuka honey. Ok, it is New Zealand but pretty delicious. Lamingtons are fantastic, no need to say more. Try and find a little bakery to buy them from. Hamburgers with the works are awesome, but can be messy, so make sure you have serviettes or wet wipes with you. There is also, from memory, a great chocolate shop in the main street of Katoomba. Katoomba might be a good spot to look for a little bakery for lamingtons as well. Our local bakery you can buy half a dozen for $6 with cream in the middle. I personally don't like the jam in the middle as well but some do. Might pop down tomorrow and get some for the weekend. Love all the advice and suggestions, have a great time in Sydney. Cheers Leah Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
littledaisychain Posted October 28, 2011 #124 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Vegemite is not yuck!! Haha! Definitely an acquired taste though :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rugbypopsie Posted October 28, 2011 #125 Share Posted October 28, 2011 The chocolate shop in Katoomba is called the Paragon...yummy. Vegemite has an added benefit if you eat lots...apparently the vitamin B in it causes you to be unattractive to mossies...so I was told by a chemist yesterday. You need some lovely Australian wines to wash all this food down. Not sure what goes with vegemite...LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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