Craps Practice on the ships

[Dicenator]

For my last 6 cruises, I've brought a pair of dice from home with me on the cruise. What I've done with them is practice my throwing on the craps table in the casino. I make about 20 to 25 throws in about 15 minutes. I either do this early in the morning around 7:30 or 8:00 when the casino is closed or around 3 in the afternoon after coming back from a shore excursion when the casino is also closed. Most of the time all I may see is a cleaning person and occasionally a casino worker. The casino workers will usually come up to me and ask me where I got the dice from. I guess they may think that I've stolen them. I show them my dice that there is no ships logo on them and I tell them that I brought them from home. After that they don't bother me.

 

I'm wondering if anybody on this message board does this also or if you've seen others doing it and if you have any opinions.

 

I just had my first bad experience with this issue last week on Wed. morning on the Norwegian Gem. A security guard came up to me nicely and told me that I couldn't do it because it was against their policy. The assistant casino manager was in the casino so I took it up with hime and he told me the same thing. He then equated what I was doing with someone bringing a roulette ball to the casino and practicing. I told him that he was nuts using a comparison like that. I stopped and didn't do any practice throwing for the rest of the week.

 

I sent an email to the Director of Casino Operations for Norwegian asking for some clarification on this issue. I'm the only one that I've ever seen or heard of doing this so if the cruise lines haven't experienced this how would it ever be in a written policy? I haven't received any answer yet.

 

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[Jeffffffs]

If casino management accepted the proposition that a skilled shooter could alter the random nature of the throw, I would think they would ban the skilled shooter rather than let him practice.

 

If they did not accept the proposition that dice is a skill game, I would think they would let shooters practice all they want...unless they thought that you wouldn't actual play if your practice session went poorly.

 

I suppose it's no different than casinos that don't let you set the dice...management can be just as superstitous as the rest of us.

 

Personally, I've never seen anyone doing this.

[anthem]

My guess is that they just don't want anybody around the table not monitored - which essentially means no practicing. I don't believe they think it'll make one iota of difference - however I can understand their position.

 

Let me put it this way - if you wanted to practice and teach your wife how to play blackjack and used their shoe to deal on the blackjack table with your own cards and she (and/or other friends) sat on the other side - I doubt they would allow that either. . . If you wanted to play go fish on their black jack tables and use the table for your own game while the casino was closed - again, I doubt they would allow it. They just don't want you near/around/touching/using their tables while its closed.

[Trnkk]

Hi Bob,

 

No I haven't seen anybody did that either and I can understand their position also while you were able to do that in the past maybe the manager/management was not around to monitor the casino but it's a good idea if you are allowed to do that I would love to be able to do that too. How about you bet only the passline minimum and practice throwing that way sooner or later you'll hit the point and pocket the money and if you seven out it's a cheap practice any way, also put the dealer to work a bit at the same time and if only one person at the table you can keep practicing a long time, just a thought.

 

I do have a question for you....in your trip report what do you mean by "co winner" does it mean a person who bets on the passline?

 

Thanks,

 

TR

[Dicenator]

co winner means a come out winner, 7, 11 or 2 and 12 if the high low is played.

 

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[goose30]

I don't understand why you would want to practice dice throws, but that is your thing.

 

I asked to practice at the slot machines and they said no. I can't understand that either!

[Dicenator]

I received a reply from the Director of Casino Operations for Norwegian Cruise line late yesterday afternoon.

 

He did not say that my practicing on the craps table was against their policies. All he had to say was that my practicing was occuring when they were preparing to open.

 

So what I gather from this is that if I am going to practice, I should do it earlier than 8 am.

 

 

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[sailor_jimc]

I have never done it, but I have thought about it. I figured I would be told I couldn't so I never bothered.

 

I can understand them not wanting you at their table unsupervised. They have no idea what you might be doing. If I owned the casino I wouldn't feel comfortable with you in there by yourself messing around on the table.

 

BUT now that you say you have done this I might be tempted to bring a set on my next cruise and try it.

[Dicenator]

sailor jimc,

 

I would never consider practicing in a casino in Atlantic City on an unopened craps table because these casinos are open 24/7.

 

On the cruise ships the casinos are only open for a certain number of hours each day and they cannot be closed because they are on the main pathway from front to back on the deck they are located on. All of the chips are covered and locked at all the tables and they have security cameras in the ceilings everywhere which are on 24/7.

 

Cruise ships go out of their way to provide whatever the passenger wants. If I was a card player they have a room that you can go to to play using your own cards. This ship had a golf cage that you could hit balls in which was not open 24 hours a day. I feel that I could bring my own golf club and balls and use their cage with my own equipment without causing any problems.

 

I feel the same way about practicing some throws with my own dice on their craps table where I will be playing and risking my money sometime later in the day.

 

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[chief30]

As a control dice thrower, I have practiced many times while on cruises. There only been one time that I was asked not to leave, one time I had 4 guys standing watching me, and asking questions. One one cruise I was practicing every day for a hour each day, got to know the table real well. Keep rolling them bones.

[Mjflowers]

As a control dice thrower, I have practiced many times while on cruises. There only been one time that I was asked not to leave, one time I had 4 guys standing watching me, and asking questions. One one cruise I was practicing every day for a hour each day, got to know the table real well. Keep rolling them bones.

 

So, you throw the dice, walk to other end and repeat over and over again for an hour? That would be great excercise. Better than the gym.

[CruiseReg]

I'm a craps player and have been on pushing 30 cruises. I've never seen anyone "practice" on an empty table.

 

One of the reasons you may have run into an issue on an NCL ship is they are probably the closest thing a land based casino (more than double odds, etc).

[Casino Player]

I'm a craps player and have been on pushing 30 cruises. I've never seen anyone "practice" on an empty table.

 

One of the reasons you may have run into an issue on an NCL ship is they are probably the closest thing a land based casino (more than double odds, etc).

 

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO CruiseReg:First, NCL isn't "the closest thing to a land based casino." If you base your statement on the size of the odds allowed then you have to include Celebrity Cruise Line. Haven't you been on a Celebrity cruise in the last few years? They have 3X-4X-5X odds. However, the dealers on Celebrity Cruise Line have a more professional demeanor than on other cruise lines I have been on.

 

Still, on a cruise ship with an empty casino I see no reason why he should not have been able to practice on the craps table. Remember, it was closed at the time.

[AjaxDB]

sailor jimc,

 

I would never consider practicing in a casino in Atlantic City on an unopened craps table because these casinos are open 24/7.

 

On the cruise ships the casinos are only open for a certain number of hours each day and they cannot be closed because they are on the main pathway from front to back on the deck they are located on. All of the chips are covered and locked at all the tables and they have security cameras in the ceilings everywhere which are on 24/7.

 

Cruise ships go out of their way to provide whatever the passenger wants. If I was a card player they have a room that you can go to to play using your own cards. This ship had a golf cage that you could hit balls in which was not open 24 hours a day. I feel that I could bring my own golf club and balls and use their cage with my own equipment without causing any problems.

 

I feel the same way about practicing some throws with my own dice on their craps table where I will be playing and risking my money sometime later in the day.

 

Dicenator

 

You're kidding aren't you? That's like saying I'll bring my on tools and practice on the engines when we're in port, or I'll bring my on pots and pans and cook a little when the kitchen is closed>

[dhill]

Did you ever stop to think that when they say the casino is closed that means that it is closed? I dont understand how you would think you could go in and start messing around in there?What should everyone just go in and have there own private games.I am sure they dont want people milling around there stuff unattended!:confused:

[CruiseReg]

HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLLLLLOOOOO CruiseReg:First, NCL isn't "the closest thing to a land based casino." If you base your statement on the size of the odds allowed then you have to include Celebrity Cruise Line. Haven't you been on a Celebrity cruise in the last few years? They have 3X-4X-5X odds. However, the dealers on Celebrity Cruise Line have a more professional demeanor than on other cruise lines I have been on.

 

Still, on a cruise ship with an empty casino I see no reason why he should not have been able to practice on the craps table. Remember, it was closed at the time.

 

Actually my first and last cruise on Celebrity was over 5 years ago, so thanks for the update. With regards to professional demeanor, maybe I'm too easygoing, I've not had any trouble with casino staff on cruises.

 

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[Yo Eleven]

It takes big cajones to do what you are doing. I like that!!!!!! Keep doing it. Doesn't sound like a big deal to me.

[MrCo9]

Next time bring along your rig and practice in YOUR cabin ALL you want.