bazzaw Posted January 14, 2012 #1 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Video of a Costa ship doing a VERY CLOSE-IN night time pass of Giglio Island!!!!! http://video.corriere.it/nave-concordia-al-giglio-/9dfa5ea6-3e9b-11e1-8b52-5f77182bc574 Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxesden1 Posted January 14, 2012 #2 Share Posted January 14, 2012 ? Wat on earth are you talking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avril4111 Posted January 14, 2012 #3 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I think he is just showing how close the ships get to the island even though it is not a stop- dangerous if it's such a rocky coast:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzaw Posted January 14, 2012 Author #4 Share Posted January 14, 2012 ? Wat on earth are you talking about? Can you not work it out for yourself?? Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidncruze Posted January 14, 2012 #5 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Poor choice of words! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzaw Posted January 14, 2012 Author #6 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Did you not see the question marks after the words?? Perhaps you could then explain in better words what a huge cruise ship would be doing so close to rocky shores at night ?? Bear in mind that the video is of a Costa ship performing this manoeuvre at some time in the past. Perhaps the heading should have been - ITALIAN ship passing close-by to rocky shores at night -- followed by question marks???? Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnocchi_mommy Posted January 14, 2012 #7 Share Posted January 14, 2012 This is the weirdest post except the AA one further up this page, I have ever read on cruise critic. Seriously. Weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maidncruze Posted January 14, 2012 #8 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Much better than insinuating that someome was showing off! Still don't understand the relevance of stating the nationality! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirsty_r Posted January 14, 2012 #9 Share Posted January 14, 2012 its the same ship passing very close in august last year if true... strange to be so close! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topsham Posted January 14, 2012 #10 Share Posted January 14, 2012 The video sadly shows that COSTA CONCORDIA has, in the past, come very close inshore near Giglio for 'sightseeing' purposes. The courses recorded on the AIS seem to indicate that is exactly what has happened this time. There could be no other reason for altering course to come inshore as they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzaw Posted January 14, 2012 Author #11 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Much better than insinuating that someome was showing off! Still don't understand the relevance of stating the nationality! It's an ITALIAN ship - that is the relevance! Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bajathree Posted January 14, 2012 #12 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I think the video is extremely interesting....shows that this ship apparently buzzed the island of Giglio at least once in it's past....and even honking the horns apparently in celebration....it will be interesting as more somes out if this was a common occurrence....the ship is traveling at a good speed very close to shore in the video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gentlemancruiser Posted January 14, 2012 #13 Share Posted January 14, 2012 It's an ITALIAN ship - that is the relevance! Barry Why did you mention the fact that it's an Italian ship and why suggest it is showing off?? This gives readers the impression there is something wrong or questionable with Italian ships. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzaw Posted January 14, 2012 Author #14 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Why did you mention the fact that it's an Italian ship Because it is why suggest it is showing off I can think of no other reason why it has done what it has done - can you?? This gives readers the impression there is something wrong or questionable with Italian ships. Readers can form their own impressions. Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongenotbob Posted January 14, 2012 #15 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Video of a Costa ship doing a VERY CLOSE-IN night time pass of Giglio Island!!!!! http://video.corriere.it/nave-concordia-al-giglio-/9dfa5ea6-3e9b-11e1-8b52-5f77182bc574 Barry Of all the noise and speculation, Barry, I think you've found the single most relevant piece of evidence. Clearly at least "some" of the captains on this ship have a habit of doing "fly-bys" at Giglio. I think the prosecutors in Italy would be VERY interested in having a look at this video. Good catch!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USNUZULOOSE Posted January 14, 2012 #16 Share Posted January 14, 2012 I wonder if this occurs very often with the ships. That seems very close. To close for comfort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bajathree Posted January 14, 2012 #17 Share Posted January 14, 2012 It's sounding more like this buzzing of the island is coming more into light http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/01/14/us-italy-ship-shore-idUSTRE80D0S020120114 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bajathree Posted January 14, 2012 #18 Share Posted January 14, 2012 An article that teamed along with this video you may find interesting...it takes a minute to load http://www.seanews.com.tr/article/ACCIDENTS/74284/Costa-Concordia-accident-navigational-error/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flag fan Posted January 14, 2012 #19 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Thanks for posting the video; it was fascinating and "showing-off" may be the explanation for the Concordia's accident. Regarding some posts that question why refer to the nationality of the show-off; I wonder if it being an Italian ship in Italian waters with mostly Italian passengers might lead an Italian captain to take chances that a Norweigan or British captain would not take in Italian waters (but might in his own home waters). It's all pre-mature speculation, but it might explain someone taking risks. In this case I expect that we will learn that a mechanical or environmental explanation is the reason the Concordia was so close shore--but this video supports human factors as more likely than I had first thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrankNJ Posted January 14, 2012 #20 Share Posted January 14, 2012 "Italians showing off" ? Certainly seems perjorative to me , especially since I'm Italian . Are we implying that Italians are stupid or they are foolish , you know , that's how those Italians are , silly show-offs ! Is that the idea ? Or is the poster just an "Australian posting" ? Other than that the post did provide good information . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bazzaw Posted January 14, 2012 Author #21 Share Posted January 14, 2012 You can read into things anything that you want. IF it had been a British ship coming within a mile of the Needles on the Isle of Wight, at cruising speed blaring it's horn to capture the attention of people on the island -- the heading of my post would have been "British showing off????" Italians are not the only Nationality who can "show off"" -- but perhaps they do have a greater propensity to do so??? or not???? Barry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topsham Posted January 14, 2012 #22 Share Posted January 14, 2012 "Italians showing off" ? Certainly seems perjorative to me , especially since I'm Italian .Are we implying that Italians are stupid or they are foolish , you know , that's how those Italians are , silly show-offs ! Is that the idea ? Or is the poster just an "Australian posting" ? Other than that the post did provide good information . It is more of a case of CRUISE SHIPS SHOWING OFF. They all do it at some time or other... Showing Off I mean. Most of the time it is done in a perfectly safe manner and the ships are never put in any risk. This time I fear those conning the vessel were perhaps taking a risk or two too many and the ship has come to grief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gentlemancruiser Posted January 14, 2012 #23 Share Posted January 14, 2012 No Captain would risk his career to 'show off' his cruise ship by traveling close to shore. The ships charts and systems are recorded and those in charge would want some answers if they did get that close to shore. Not to mention the coast guard would do to that Captain. I believe the sounding of the ships horn in the video was to warn smaller boats in the area. This video could be taken because a Costa ship accidentally was too close to shore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sr12345 Posted January 14, 2012 #24 Share Posted January 14, 2012 Keep in mind that a magnified telephoto shot can make objects appear closer than they actually are, so without knowing more about the photographer's vantage point and camera, we really can't determine if this video clip shows the ship only a few hundred yards offshore or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macfin Posted January 14, 2012 #25 Share Posted January 14, 2012 as living in Newport RI, i frequently see cruise ships approaching our harbor and also "dropping anchor", the vantage point that i have seen ships coming thru the "passage" does give the 'illusion" of being very close to land, that being said, i am not familiar with the Italian waters which the vessel travels....but the video does seem to indicate that this has been done before.... PLEASE keep in mind that life was lost on this and that we should PRAY for all those soles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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