BenjiRodney Posted February 16, 2012 #1 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Just off of Carnival's website, Valor is replacing Victory in San Juan, Victory is replacing Destiny in Miami and Destiny is showing a TA crossing to Italy in Feb 2013. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooked On Cruising 4ever Posted February 16, 2012 #2 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Just off of Carnival's website, Valor is replacing Victory in San Juan, Victory is replacing Destiny in Miami and Destiny is showing a TA crossing to Italy in Feb 2013. Wow. Why all this sudden interest in Europe??? Seriously, who can afford to fly over there???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_duck Posted February 16, 2012 #3 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Why all this sudden interest in Europe??? Seriously, who can afford to fly over there???? The Destiny is going to Italy for a major refit. Although she may remain for some time afterward. The interest in Europe, is the huge market over there. It isn't necessarily about giving North Americans somewhere else to cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooked On Cruising 4ever Posted February 16, 2012 #4 Share Posted February 16, 2012 The Destiny is going to Italy for a major refit. Although she may remain for some time afterward. The interest in Europe, is the huge market over there. It isn't necessarily about giving North Americans somewhere else to cruise. Thanks Duck. I didn't know it was as big as it was over there. I hope they send Destiny back when she's all spruced up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTravelista Posted February 16, 2012 #5 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Why all this sudden interest in Europe??? Seriously, who can afford to fly over there???? Alot of people enjoy European cruises and don't mind flying over to do them. Also cruising is not only for Americans...Europeans do cruise as well. Anyway, this is great news! I was just saying the Southern Caribbean itinerary deserves a newer ship and there you have it. The Victory has to be my least favorite ship next to the Destiny. I'll definitely take advantage in 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gstewart Posted February 16, 2012 #6 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Alot of people enjoy European cruises and don't mind flying over to do them. Also cruising is not only for Americans...Europeans do cruise as well. Anyway, this is great news! I was just saying the Southern Caribbean itinerary deserves a newer ship and there you have it. The Victory has to be my least favorite ship next to the Destiny. I'll definitely take advantage in 2013. A rejuvenated Destiny would do well in the Med on the sort of clockface itinerary the ill-fated Concordia was offering before her untimely demise. I hope she stays in Carnival colours rather being transferred to Costa. I personally think Costa will struggle for bookings over the next few years expecially with the large number of ships they have. Its funny, just as RCCL sends Independence OTS back to Florida for the winter months, there are rumours that Carnival Destiny will stay in Europe year-round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsAllAboutTheSass Posted February 16, 2012 #7 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Why all this sudden interest in Europe??? Seriously, who can afford to fly over there???? Remember Carnival Corp recently lost some uh.....capacity over there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenjiRodney Posted February 16, 2012 Author #8 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I loved the Victory out of San Juan in 2011 and are doing it again in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMKakaThing2 Posted February 16, 2012 #9 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Well...my family and I was considering the Destiny for sometime between February and April of next year. Guess I can take that off of our list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herfnerd Posted February 16, 2012 #10 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Anyway, this is great news! I was just saying the Southern Caribbean itinerary deserves a newer ship and there you have it. The Victory has to be my least favorite ship next to the Destiny. I'll definitely take advantage in 2013. Just curious as to why the Victory is your least fave - we're sailing on her in September..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibcnusoon Posted February 16, 2012 #11 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I loved the Victory out of San Juan in 2011 and are doing it again in 2012. We love the itinerary. How can you beat it?? The ship comes 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdamion Posted February 16, 2012 #12 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Well...my family and I was considering the Destiny for sometime between February and April of next year. Guess I can take that off of our list. Why not go on Victory? Same itineraries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LMKakaThing2 Posted February 16, 2012 #13 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Why not go on Victory? Same itineraries. I hadn't checked Carnival's site to see that the Victory was going to have the same itineraries. Thank you for letting me know. I will go ahead and put Victory on our list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibcnusoon Posted February 16, 2012 #14 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I hadn't checked Carnival's site to see that the Victory was going to have the same itineraries. Thank you for letting me know. I will go ahead and put Victory on our list. From John's FB page: Four- and Five-Day Voyages from Miami Carnival Victory will become the newest and largest ship to offer year-round four- and five-day cruises from Miami when it launches service on Feb. 4, 2013. Carnival Victory’s Miami-based schedule features three distinctly different itineraries, providing consumers with a variety of convenient and affordable cruise options departing from one of America’s top tourist destinations. Four-day “long weekend” cruises departing Thursdays call at Key West, Fla., and Cozumel, Mexico; five-day cruises departing Mondays include stops at Grand Turk, Turks & Caicos Islands; the private Bahamian island of Half Moon Cay; and Nassau, The Bahamas. Five-day voyages departing Saturdays feature George Town, Grand Cayman; and Ocho Rios, Jamaica. Each of these destinations offers a truly unique vacation experience, with miles of gorgeous white-sand beaches and an interesting array of shore excursion choices such as zip-lining, horseback riding, kayaking, and more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Carnival Posted February 16, 2012 #15 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Why all this sudden interest in Europe??? Seriously, who can afford to fly over there???? For some, perhaps many, the same caribbean ports may become tedious so Europe is a welcome change and perhaps a once in a lifetime trip. After all, many people cannot even afford a short cruise let alone a long one and for some of us who can (just about) afford to fly over will; you only live once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel1733 Posted February 16, 2012 #16 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Why all this sudden interest in Europe??? Seriously, who can afford to fly over there???? I agree......then the excursions for Europe are through the roof in price. If you are going to pay airfare to Europe you need to make it 2-3 week trip to justify the cost. Not all of us can afford to take that much time off for a trip. I guess if you don't want to do Australia or Europe this will force one to consider other lines. There is an old saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it" Quit tinkering Carnival. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTravelista Posted February 16, 2012 #17 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Just curious as to why the Victory is your least fave - we're sailing on her in September..... No steakhouse, less food options on Lido....it's an older, smaller ship and it shows. I like newer, bigger ships with all the bells and whistles. But even with all that said its a good ship with a phenomenal crew and the itinerary can't be beat. It's so port intensive you probably won't notice any of the stuff I noticex. You'll have a great time in September, don't worry a bit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel1733 Posted February 16, 2012 #18 Share Posted February 16, 2012 From John's FB page: Four- and Five-Day Voyages from Miami Carnival Victory will become the newest and largest ship to offer year-round four- and five-day cruises from Miami when it launches service on Feb. 4, 2013. Carnival Victory’s Miami-based schedule features three distinctly different itineraries, providing consumers with a variety of convenient and affordable cruise options departing from one of America’s top tourist destinations. Four-day “long weekend” cruises departing Thursdays call at Key West, Fla., and Cozumel, Mexico; five-day cruises departing Mondays include stops at Grand Turk, Turks & Caicos Islands; the private Bahamian island of Half Moon Cay; and Nassau, The Bahamas. Five-day voyages departing Saturdays feature George Town, Grand Cayman; and Ocho Rios, Jamaica. Each of these destinations offers a truly unique vacation experience, with miles of gorgeous white-sand beaches and an interesting array of shore excursion choices such as zip-lining, horseback riding, kayaking, and more. For those of us who have to fly to ports to cruise 4 and 5 day cruises don't make sense. Many times the airfare is more than the cruise itself. I guess if you are going to only market to those within driving distance of a port this makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsAllAboutTheSass Posted February 16, 2012 #19 Share Posted February 16, 2012 I agree......then the excursions for Europe are through the roof in price. If you are going to pay airfare to Europe you need to make it 2-3 week trip to justify the cost. Not all of us can afford to take that much time off for a trip. I guess if you don't want to do Australia or Europe this will force one to consider other lines. There is an old saying "if it ain't broke don't fix it" Quit tinkering Carnival. :( Carnival is not just going after the North American cruiser here. I would think that a European Cruise on Carnival could be had for a lower price point than other lines. Given the state of the European economy, this might be a great entry time for Carnival. I don't know this to be fact as I haven't researched it. As some people say......just sayin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big_duck Posted February 16, 2012 #20 Share Posted February 16, 2012 For those of us who have to fly to ports to cruise 4 and 5 day cruises don't make sense. Many times the airfare is more than the cruise itself. I guess if you are going to only market to those within driving distance of a port this makes sense. It's no different then what the Destiny was doing before. These trips make for great B2B opportunities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mondello Posted February 16, 2012 #21 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Just off of Carnival's website, Valor is replacing Victory in San Juan, Victory is replacing Destiny in Miami and Destiny is showing a TA crossing to Italy in Feb 2013. Wow. You had me scared there for a minute, We're booked on Valor/Glory B2B in Dec. I may be on the cutting edge of a trend. We booked and sailed Inspiration last Halloween totally unaware she was switching ports with Paradise soon after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel1733 Posted February 16, 2012 #22 Share Posted February 16, 2012 It's no different then what the Destiny was doing before. These trips make for great B2B opportunities. That certainly would be an option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
avenger71 Posted February 16, 2012 #23 Share Posted February 16, 2012 thanks duck. I didn't know it was as big as it was over there. I hope they send destiny back when she's all spruced up! me too!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdamion Posted February 16, 2012 #24 Share Posted February 16, 2012 For those of us who have to fly to ports to cruise 4 and 5 day cruises don't make sense. Many times the airfare is more than the cruise itself. I guess if you are going to only market to those within driving distance of a port this makes sense. This isn't necessarily true. For people like me that want to cruise, but normally can not be gone for a full week, the 3 and 4 day weekend cruises are a good option for a quick getaway. This being said, the airfares have been less than reasonable lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DDFla Posted February 16, 2012 #25 Share Posted February 16, 2012 Has there been a replacement announced for the Legend next summer in Tampa? I would like to see some variety there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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