Rare luv2kroooz Posted February 11, 2013 #226 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Elation is not empty. It is operating a regularly scheduled itinerary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenale80 Posted February 11, 2013 #227 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Wow :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisin' Cool CAT Posted February 11, 2013 #228 Share Posted February 11, 2013 The very-much doubt the Elation is empty. The Elation holds roughly 700 less people than the Triumph. Not all the pax/crew would be able to transfer even if this was the case. Elation is not empty...a coworker of mine is actually on Elation right now!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderingjew Posted February 11, 2013 #229 Share Posted February 11, 2013 CCL lost 13 weeks with the splendor 3 years ago I wonder if they would have been better off losing 2 weeks to repair the ship when they had problems 2 weeks ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted February 11, 2013 #230 Share Posted February 11, 2013 They said the Carnival Elation is on the scene. Does it have passengers on it now or is it empty? Since it has power I thought they could transfer passengers over to it via the tenders. Passengers that need electricity (they use breathing machines or other medical equipment). Or the elderly and those who are going to have a tough time surviving 3 days in the heat. The ship is gonna stink to high heaven with no working toilets and being so hot. Interesting points. Might be more for food preparation than anything else....does make you wonder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindy Posted February 11, 2013 #231 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Based on what they did after the Splendor fire, I have no doubt that Carnival will do right financially by all the current and future passengers who are affected. That said, I feel for the current passengers. Three days is a LONG time to be ANYWHERE with no/limited sanitary facilities, hot food, or A/C, let alone on a ship with over 3,000 passengers. Unfortunately for the current cruisers, once they get to Progreso their adventures will continue. I know the ship needs to be towed to the closest port, but logistically Progreso makes things even more complicated. The pier itself is 4 miles long...it will take at least an hour to transfer to the airport in Merida, there are limited flights, then once they get back to the US almost everybody will have to be bussed from Houston down to Galveston to retrieve their cars.:( I also think since it was a very short cruise going only to Cozumel, the transport home will be complicated by the number of people without passports. I agree with the people who have said if you have a cruise coming up on the Triumph in the next couple months you should be working on contingency plans. I have a feeling that Triumph's drydock just got moved to 2013.:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jumbiecruiser Posted February 11, 2013 #232 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Based on what they did after the Splendor fire, I have no doubt that Carnival will do right by all the current and future passengers who are affected. That said, I feel for the current passengers. Three days is a LONG time to be ANYWHERE with no/limited sanitary facilities, hot food, or A/C, let alone on a ship with over 3,000 passengers. Unfortunately for the current cruisers, once they get to Progreso their adventures will continue. I know the ship needs to be towed to the closest port, but logistically Progreso makes things even more complicated. The pier itself is 4 miles long...it will take at least an hour to transfer to the airport in Merida, there are limited flights, then once they get back to the US almost everybody will have to be bussed from Houston down to Galveston to retrieve their cars.:( I also think since it was a very short cruise going only to Cozumel, the transport home will be complicated by the number of people without passports. I agree with the people who have said if you have a cruise coming up on the Triumph in the next couple months you should be working on contingency plans. I have a feeling that Triumph's drydock just got moved to 2013.:( Flights will not be a problem as Carnival will charter planes to get these people home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGP1111 Posted February 11, 2013 #233 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Merida is very close and the airport can handle planes as large as a 747. I'm sure Carnival is working on charter flights at this very moment. I just researched, and was quite surprised to see the number of US cities the Merida airport can serve . . . Albany, NY (ALB), Baltimore, MD (BWI), Boston, MA (BOS), Chicago Midway, IL (MDW), Chicago O'Hare, IL (ORD), Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky (CVG), Dallas/Fort Worth, TX (DFW), Denver, CO (DEN), Detroit Wayne County, MI (DTW), Fresno Yosemite (FAT), George Bush Intercontinental (IAH), Hartford/Springfield, CT (BDL), Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta (ATL), Kansas City Int'l, MO (MCI), Las Vegas, NV (LAS), Los Angeles, CA (LAX), Memphis (MEM), Miami, FL (MIA), Minneapolis/St. Paul (MSP), Nashville, TN (BNA), New Orleans, LA (MSY), New York JFK (JFK), Ontario, CA (ONT), Orlando, FL (MCO), Philadelphia, PA (PHL), Phoenix, AZ (PHX), Portland, OR (PDX), Raleigh-Durham, NC (RDU), Richmond, VA (RIC), Rochester, NY (ROC), Sacramento, CA (SMF), Saint Louis, MO (STL), Salt Lake City, UT (SLC), San Antonio, TX (SAT), San Diego, CA (SAN), San Francisco, CA (SFO), South Padre Is. Intl (BRO), Washington Dulles, DC (IAD) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Cat Posted February 11, 2013 #234 Share Posted February 11, 2013 If I remember correct, Meridia is a city of over one million people. Looking at google earth, the runways are bigger than Cancun but they only have what looks like 4 gates for the planes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truecruiser Posted February 11, 2013 #235 Share Posted February 11, 2013 My wife and mother-in-law are actually on the cruise! Carnival has said the following: - Engine room fire - No injuries - No propulsion - Only emergency power - Do not know when they will return to port! Stupid Mistake. They should have cancelled the previous two sailings and just fixed the ship properly instead of continuing to force it to run sending it out there with band aids slapped on it each time. So now instead of having customers from one or two sailings being slightly inconvenienced by having to rebook a new ship for those sailing dates, they've instead now ruined the present and future cruises of countless others and will now surely have to address it in a deeper way -- probably resulting in canceling at least one sailing anyway -- at the expense of alienating many loyal customers. Penny wise, pound foolish, a particularly shocking trait for a bean counter. not sure if this is mickey pressuring gerry or gerry running it into the ground all by his lonesome, but whatever it is, things need to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RuthlessBoss Posted February 11, 2013 #236 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Back to Elation. Assuming all cabins are full, but if the ship was not at capacity, would they or could they somehow take on the frailest of Triumph passengers? Could this be an option? What is Elation's home port? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chill6x6 Posted February 11, 2013 #237 Share Posted February 11, 2013 You, like some other readers (on other subjects) put your own spin on my remark. I never said that anything good happenedon Splendor. I said there were positive remarks of how they were taken care of. One such person has already come on this thread and spoke of it. But no less a correct and factual spin. One such person does not a cruise ship make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted February 11, 2013 #238 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I just researched, and was quite surprised to see the number of US cities the Merida airport can serve . . . Albany, NY (ALB), Baltimore, MD (BWI), Boston, MA (BOS), Chicago Midway, IL (MDW), Chicago O'Hare, IL (ORD), Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky (CVG), Dallas/Fort Worth, TX (DFW), Denver, CO (DEN), Detroit Wayne County, MI (DTW), Fresno Yosemite (FAT), George Bush Intercontinental (IAH), Hartford/Springfield, CT (BDL), Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta (ATL), Kansas City Int'l, MO (MCI), Las Vegas, NV (LAS), Los Angeles, CA (LAX), Memphis (MEM), Miami, FL (MIA), Minneapolis/St. Paul (MSP), Nashville, TN (BNA), New Orleans, LA (MSY), New York JFK (JFK), Ontario, CA (ONT), Orlando, FL (MCO), Philadelphia, PA (PHL), Phoenix, AZ (PHX), Portland, OR (PDX), Raleigh-Durham, NC (RDU), Richmond, VA (RIC), Rochester, NY (ROC), Sacramento, CA (SMF), Saint Louis, MO (STL), Salt Lake City, UT (SLC), San Antonio, TX (SAT), San Diego, CA (SAN), San Francisco, CA (SFO), South Padre Is. Intl (BRO), Washington Dulles, DC (IAD) . Wow, that is interesting. Would not have thought that. That will make getting planes there easier to coordinate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cindy Posted February 11, 2013 #239 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Flights will not be a problem as Carnival will charter planes to get these people home. I'm sure they will...it's still a lot of people to fly unexpectedly from Mexico to the US! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruise Cat Posted February 11, 2013 #240 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Speaking of Elation. One would think that since they hook ships up to shore power all the time, they would keep a cable on board so they could actually connect one ship to another using the same connections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naomi John Posted February 11, 2013 #241 Share Posted February 11, 2013 What an insensitive comment. I am assuming you have never been adrift at sea on a cruise ship operating on emergency power for long periods of time. There are very limited amenities - air conditioning, showers, restrooms, hot or cold food, lights come to mind. My guess is that you would not want to be on Triumph tonight. Hattiesburg has been devastated by tornadoes tonight, so that is a real fair comparison. Did you say you were making Lemonade or Kool-Aid? Wise up! Insensitive? I like to think POSITIVE. And that is what I was doing. Take a high leap off your soap box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aggieastrosfan Posted February 11, 2013 #242 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Back to Elation. Assuming all cabins are full, but if the ship was not at capacity, would they or could they somehow take on the frailest of Triumph passengers? Could this be an option? What is Elation's home port? NOLA. Actually a very feasible option for those in essential need of power, it's about a six hour drive from Houston. This does not take into consideration the logistics of transferring passengers, though. Not an easy task for healthy, able-bodied individuals! Really crappy situation all around for thousands of people for various reasons. :( Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruisin' Cool CAT Posted February 11, 2013 #243 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Back to Elation. Assuming all cabins are full, but if the ship was not at capacity, would they or could they somehow take on the frailest of Triumph passengers? Could this be an option? What is Elation's home port? Elation's home port is New Orleans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare jimbo5544 Posted February 11, 2013 #244 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I'm sure they will...it's still a lot of people to fly unexpectedly from Mexico to the US! True and it is the whole package which makes the package so daunting. Getting 3100 people and their luggage from a small community pier to an airport to planes to Houston (I assume) then bussed to Galveston..... Ouch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinty76 Posted February 11, 2013 #245 Share Posted February 11, 2013 For those of you who have family members aboard and have been posting on this thread! Have you been contacted by any reporters? I've had 2 of them contact me asking questions! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chill6x6 Posted February 11, 2013 #246 Share Posted February 11, 2013 I agree with the people who have said if you have a cruise coming up on the Triumph in the next couple months you should be working on contingency plans. I have a feeling that Triumph's drydock just got moved to 2013. Yep....the phrase "out of commission" comes to mind. The phrase "preventative maintenance" is another good one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seannyice81 Posted February 11, 2013 #247 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Back to Elation. Assuming all cabins are full, but if the ship was not at capacity, would they or could they somehow take on the frailest of Triumph passengers? Could this be an option? What is Elation's home port? Doubtful. When at sea, the water can be a little more choppy and make transfers like this more difficult. Perhaps a scenario if water was very calm, but I still doubt it. Part of the "emergency power" is probably reserved for the medical facility on board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deborahjo Posted February 11, 2013 #248 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Started to post but want to keep my posting rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallyho8 Posted February 11, 2013 #249 Share Posted February 11, 2013 Back to Elation. Assuming all cabins are full, but if the ship was not at capacity, would they or could they somehow take on the frailest of Triumph passengers? Could this be an option? What is Elation's home port? The Elation sails out of New Orleans and won't be back until Thursday the 14th. The frailest passengers are the very riskiest to try to move from one ship to another on the high seas and this would be a huge liability for Carnival and probably riskier than having them remain on the Triumph till the 13th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truecruiser Posted February 11, 2013 #250 Share Posted February 11, 2013 ...The phrase "preventative maintenance" is another good one. Agree. Shame on you, Carnival. Things happen, but you knew this was going on and risked it. A big shame on you. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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