Fire on Carnival Triumph. No engines, running on emergency generators.

[TerReuv]

Even the media who has been showing nothing bit negative views have said this wouldn't have been a safe solution. The media experts said this would have been highly dangerous and it was safer to keep them on the triumph.

 

Exactly! The Triumph has no stabilizers and was floating free. There was no safe way to do that. People on board are safe, conditions are terrible I am sure, but they are SAFE! If Carnival had tried this, it could have been a disaster. Numerous people with nautical experience have said that it would have been way too dangerous to try and transfer passengers that way, not to mention their luggage, etc.

 

My point was that Repo-Cruiser has been on several threads about Triumph and keeps saying Carnival has not handled it correctly, but then he/she never responds when someone asks what they could have done differently.

[dwjoe]

and not one confirmed.

 

The vast majority of this thread is speculation

Multiple posters reporting in this thread on texts/calls received from pax on conditions aboard. When you have multiple reports saying the same thing, I call that credible. At least as credible as CCL press releases.

[Tom-n-Cheryl]

So with 350 Mcdonalds employees onboard for their free cruise. Im wondering if they change the annual cruise to another cruiseline

 

The Chick-fil-A folks apparently made a better pick. The reason we're able to be on a three night Allure sailing tomorrow is because the first four nights was a full ship charter by Chick-fil-A.

 

My understanding of that deal was the bars were CLOSED for their cruise as well as the casino. Can you imagine the premium they were on the hook for in order to get that deal? !!

 

Tom

[gtalum]

Multiple posters reporting in this thread on texts/calls received from pax on conditions aboard. When you have multiple reports saying the same thing, I call that credible. At least as credible as CCL press releases.

 

From what I've seen, the "onion and cucumber sandwich" originates from one report in a news story as does the "sewage flowing down the walls". Not enough to draw any factual conclusions from, IMHO.

[jonbgd]

The referenced post just said "tender".

It did say tender door but last time I checked the tenders arnt stored inside the hull. SO It thought she was talking about the actual tenders(lifeboats)

 

Just not sure how she will open that watertight door after gets past security and all the crew down there

[airmj2123]

http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c1#/video/us/2013/02/13/bts-blackwell-cruise-ship-parents.cnn

 

Good video by two parents who spoke with their kids Monday

[declansdad]

Multiple posters reporting in this thread on texts/calls received from pax on conditions aboard. When you have multiple reports saying the same thing, I call that credible. At least as credible as CCL press releases.

 

 

They could be but they are all still speculation. Anyone can post on an anonymous message board saying they have a family member abouard the ship and they sent them a message saying XYZ. Just look at all the new people who have shown up on this thread.

 

Personally I prefer to get the hard facts before making a decision one way or another.

[Gail & Marty sailing away]

After the RCL stock rose over 50% since last July.

 

In the same time frame, CCL went up slightly over 20%.

It is still a good buy ..

[jonbgd]

The Chick-fil-A folks apparently made a better pick. The reason we're able to be on a three night Allure sailing tomorrow is because the first four nights was a full ship charter by Chick-fil-A.

 

My understanding of that deal was the bars were CLOSED for their cruise as well as the casino. Can you imagine the premium they were on the hook for in order to get that deal? !!

 

Tom

No Kidding

I was wondering how you were doing a 3 day on the Allure

 

Wow no bar or casino that had to be real expensive premium

 

We sailed on the Triumph last year same time and the Mcdonalds group was on there.

[Jumbiecruiser]

He was talking about stock prices. Please don't respond attacking someone without knowing the context of their post

 

Well aren't I lucky to have you set me straight.

[ducklite]

You may want to re read the post

Carnival is giving the pax a choice of a hotel room and chartered flight or

The long bus ride

 

They are getting a long bus ride and a hotel then a flight, or a longer bus ride then a hotel, then a flight if needed or another bus ride to their car at the port.

 

They have no rooms in Alabama, the rooms are in New Orleans. After they get off they won't even have the opportunity to shower before getting on a bus for a minimum 2.5 hour drive to New Orleans.

 

Ridiculous.

[biomedbob]

I know how it works, I'm just asking you to show me where you seen that as fact. Right now you are just assuming. Looks like Someone else posted other reasons as to their drop

 

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[nitro2448]

He was talking about stock prices. Please don't respond attacking someone without knowing the context of their post

 

Thank you for the support, it appears they just jump in at the end of conversation and think they know what it's about

 

 

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[Maraprince]

Exactly! The Triumph has no stabilizers and was floating free. There was no safe way to do that. People on board are safe, conditions are terrible I am sure, but they are SAFE! If Carnival had tried this, it could have been a disaster. Numerous people with nautical experience have said that it would have been way too dangerous to try and transfer passengers that way, not to mention their luggage, etc.

 

My point was that Repo-Cruiser has been on several threads about Triumph and keeps saying Carnival has not handled it correctly, but then he/she never responds when someone asks what they could have done differently.

 

 

Once the fire was out, there was no need to evacuate the ship. No water was coming into the ship that would cause it to tilt. Trying to off load that many passengers to another cruise ship would only have made things worse. The other cruise ship would not have been able to accommodate the Triumph's passengers and now you would have 2 ships trying to deal with the situation.

 

Tendering at a port is not always the safest way off the ship because there is a lot of movement between the ship and the tenders. I'm not sure that totally transferring so many passengers from one cruise ship to another would not have resulted in some injuries.

 

Dropping off food and supplies was a good call. Keeping people out on the open decks would normally have been the protocol once there an emergency is declared.

 

Arranging to have the ship towed is not as easy a process as you would like to think. The ship is in international waters and is registered in the Bahamas meaning it is under their jurisdiction. The lines have to be secured and you have to know what is under the ship so it does not hit anything to further damage the ship.

 

MARAPRINCE

[tallyho8]

Thank goodness that it is so much safer to travel on any ship today than it was in the past. Many years ago an engine room fire would sink any ship with most or all of its passengers and crew.

 

Its estimated that over 1400 steamboats sank in the Mississippi with many of them losing all aboard. Yet, thousands continued to sail on them because the benefits outnumbered the risks.

 

Yes, this is a terrible situation, but it sure beats being on a ship on fire in the 19th century.

[nitro2448]

Love the commercial for your cellphone! :)

 

Which commercial ?

 

 

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[airmj2123]

Well aren't I lucky to have you set me straight.

 

Anytime :)

[declansdad]

Thank goodness that it is so much safer to travel on any ship today than it was in the past. Many years ago an engine room fire would sink any ship with most or all of its passengers and crew.

 

Its estimated that over 1400 steamboats sank in the Mississippi with many of them losing all aboard. Yet, thousands continued to sail on them because the benefits outnumbered the risks.

 

Yes, this is a terrible situation, but it sure beats being on a ship on fire in the 19th century.

 

 

According to some on here, they probably belonged to Carnival.

[jonbgd]

They are getting a long bus ride and a hotel then a flight, or a longer bus ride then a hotel, then a flight if needed or another bus ride to their car at the port.

 

They have no rooms in Alabama, the rooms are in New Orleans. After they get off they won't even have the opportunity to shower before getting on a bus for a minimum 2.5 hour drive to New Orleans.

 

Ridiculous.

WOW I just went back and re read it

I was wrong:o

[davmsi]

Well aren't I lucky to have you set me straight.

 

Why, Yes! Yes you are.

[seavoyager6]

RCCL

 

Carnival

 

NCL

 

 

Three peas in the same pod

[Mizzouaholic]

I like popcorn

[berryberry]

and not one confirmed.

 

The vast majority of this thread is speculation on everything from the cause of the fire, the condition of the ship to the stock prices.

 

So in your world all those reports are lies??? there have been multiple people reporting in this thread and in various news reports on texts/calls received from loved ones about conditions aboard. When you have multiple reports saying the same thing, that is credible.

[LynnA]

From what I've seen, the "onion and cucumber sandwich" originates from one report in a news story as does the "sewage flowing down the walls". Not enough to draw any factual conclusions from, IMHO.

 

I believe it when my daughter-in-law tells me the same thing, maybe a little worse.

[declansdad]

So in your world all those reports are lies??? there have been multiple people reporting in this thread and in various news reports on texts/calls received from loved ones about conditions aboard. When you have multiple reports saying the same thing, that is credible.

 

 

No I'm saying hey are second-hand information that hasn't been confirmed. There is a difference.