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Interesting that some consider the on-scene USCG captain's professional opinion wrong.

 

Yup, because *I* didn't read all the posts either.

 

LOL!

 

Forgive me while I take pause, hug my children, and thank the good Lord they're normal...

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CNN live interview with 16 year old Haley who started to cry for a moment before composing herself. Poor thing. :(

 

I wonder if people will remember the distress some people faced on this cruise when they decide on whether to take children who are too young to even remember a vacation or recent pregnant women debating on how to skirt the 24 week rule needless to mention the normal challenges of avoiding norovirus and flu. Apparently 10 cruises suffered disabling problems last year. Yes not all on Carnival and statistically low but it can happen.

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So CNN is the villain in this story? I'm readIng the oddest conclusions tonight.

 

I think that maybe the point missed is the use of sensationalist-style headlines designed to tease in viewers. The level of journalism they are using would best be compared to the national Enquirer and the televised tabloids like Extra! and TMZ.

 

A news reporter or his/her network should show impartiality and just present facts, not libelous jabs. The conditions are unsanitary in places. Many people are having to cope with living outside of their normal comfort zones. Due to physical limitations or other health issues, some passengers may be in extreme distress.

 

Is the ship really a petri dish? I didn't notice any agar in any of the pictures, but it could have been obscured due to poor lighting or the waves upon waves of human excrement......

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I disagree. A Chinook has a 450 mile range. The National Guard would have provided one, and sent the bill to CCL.

 

Not sure its as simple as finding a helicopter with the required range and payload capability. National Guard units flying CH47 may not have any experience delivering heavy items to powerless commercial ships at sea? USCG has an awful lot of experience doing this sort of thing. But that experience may not be found in combination with CH47 qualifications.

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Girl they are talking to (CNN) has working toilet, cold shower, and balcony... She hit the jackpot on this cruise. <- half sarcasm

 

CNN live interview with 16 year old Haley who started to cry for a moment before composing herself. Poor thing. :(

 

Yes poor thing, and she had it better than a lot of others onboard (both passengers and crew).

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I think that maybe the point missed is the use of sensationalist-style headlines designed to tease in viewers. The level of journalism they are using would best be compared to the national Enquirer and the televised tabloids live Extra! and TMZ.

 

A news reporter or his/her network should show impartiality and just present facts, not libelous jabs. The conditions are unsanitary in places. Many people are having to cope with living outside of their normal comfort zones. Due to physical limitations or other health issues, some passengers may be in extreme distress.

 

Is the ship really a petri dish? I didn't notice any agar in any of the pictures, but it could have been obscured due to poor lighting or the waves upon waves of human excrement......

 

Well said... Not really the way I would want to end a cruise, but it is what it is.. Some people have a hard time rolling with the punches.

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Most of the people interviewed by CNN today have given so much credit to the crew. Seems like they've done a great job.

 

I was quite moved by the man in a CNN interview when asked if he felt that Carnival's compensation was acceptable said that the people who really deserved compensation were the crew.

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CNN live interview with 16 year old Haley who started to cry for a moment before composing herself. Poor thing. :(

 

I wonder if people will remember the distress some people faced on this cruise when they decide on whether to take children who are too young to even remember a vacation or recent pregnant women debating on how to skirt the 24 week rule needless to mention the normal challenges of avoiding norovirus and flu. Apparently 10 cruises suffered disabling problems last year. Yes not all on Carnival and statistically low but it can happen.

 

It is funny, I would swear they interviewed Haley earlier today around noon and she was 10 and her friend was 12, one was wearing yellow coat the other red/pink sweat shirt (that is how the CNN reporter identified them) now she is 16 (I heard this interview also when she cried)

 

I have also heard several times this evening that there are showers (cold) but showers for them to use and much better food.

 

I still don't understand how the passengers and family at home have managed to clear their phone contact list, and forgot their phone numbers,

 

So all the could do was call CNN to get in touch with their family.

 

It is a good thing CNN plays Telephone operator.

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Not sure its as simple as finding a helicopter with the required range and payload capability. National Guard units flying CH47 may not have any experience delivering heavy items to powerless commercial ships at sea? USCG has an awful lot of experience doing this sort of thing. But that experience may not be found in combination with CH47 qualifications.

 

Another issue would be finding one equipped to do a ship to ship cargo transfer. Even the Chinooks that are used in forest fire have very expensive modifications done to do this job. It is not like you can land it on the ship. Once you were within range of many of coastal oil rigs, there were a lot more facilities available since the proper equipment and crews were available since these kind of transfers happen with the offshore oil rigs.

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The USCG should ground the ccl fleet- prohibit them from leaving a U.S. port until each ship and its logs, are inspected.

Passenger safety should come first.

 

Please google "Port State Control" .

 

Ships and their safety are regulated world wide

 

 

Regards

 

John Fisher Royal Navy (retired)

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The USCG should ground the ccl fleet- prohibit them from leaving a U.S. port until each ship and its logs, are inspected.

Passenger safety should come first.

 

Only if they do the same to every cruise line who has had an incident recently.

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The USCG should ground the ccl fleet- prohibit them from leaving a U.S. port until each ship and its logs, are inspected.

Passenger safety should come first.

 

I agree 100%, whichever agency regulates it. Reading through this thread is sad. "Oh it's not that bad", I question a number of things when I read some of these people's comments.

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While the people have been stuck on the ship, and there was nothing to do,

 

Do you think they had any "fun" games in the Casino?

 

Black jack, Craps, other table games,

 

Just for fun, or maybe the entertainment staff having prizes, ship on a stick, funship freddy type of prizes?

 

Seams like it would have helped pass the time,

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Only if they do the same to every cruise line who has had an incident recently.

 

And every container ship , bulker , tanker , and hundreds of other types of ships that have incidents every day of the week ...

 

 

Again google "Port State Control" to get some understanding of how shipping works.

 

Regards

 

John Fisher Royal Navy (retired)

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While the people have been stuck on the ship, and there was nothing to do,

 

Do you think they had any "fun" games in the Casino?

 

Black jack, Craps, other table games,

 

Just for fun, or maybe the entertainment staff having prizes, ship on a stick, funship freddy type of prizes?

 

Seams like it would have helped pass the time,

 

Do you think the casino was open? Do you think that, without power, they would have run a power-intensive location like the casino? Ship on a stick?

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