Lady_Jag Posted November 13, 2013 #1 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Cant use the over door shoe hangar anymore? Why not? Also, can I use bungees to secure my door banner instead of magnets? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenseib Posted November 13, 2013 #2 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Cant use the over door shoe hangar anymore? Why not?Also, can I use bungees to secure my door banner instead of magnets? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk because they say it's scratching paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshowmestate Posted November 13, 2013 #3 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I think they are a no no due to the paint scratching. There are some things you can hang from hangers in the closet for additional storage although I'll have to say comparing our experiences on the Wonder and Fantasy, for whatever reason, we found the storage to be better on the Fantasy than the Wonder and only kept smaller items in the hanger thing. I've gotten a jewelry hanger that goes over a hanger to keep KTTW cards in, med bottles, charges, small things like that which are what usually need the most keeping track of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmoo here Posted November 13, 2013 #4 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Cant use the over door shoe hangar anymore? Why not?Also, can I use bungees to secure my door banner instead of magnets? Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Besides the scratch damage (both to the door and the frame), because the doors are a fairly tight fit into the frames, some of the doors were being forced out of alignment due to the extra metal between them on the over the door hangers. I'm not sure how you'd attach bungees. Were you thinking similar to the over the door holders? By hooking one end of the bungee to the door? If so, it probably wouldn't be allowed either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loonbeam Posted November 13, 2013 #5 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Pretty much only magnetic mounts are allowed. There were just too many problems and they did enforce this on the Dream. One option that would work would be to attach a long wide strip of felt to the top of the banner and drape that over the door with something on the other side to counterweight it... We had a banner like that and they were fine with it (with the caveat it came from Disney in the Parks)... This picture shows the Disney version in the background... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trasor Posted November 21, 2013 #6 Share Posted November 21, 2013 The Fantasy has 3 pegs at the end of the bed that are perfectly placed to hang a shoe holder. The outside holes of the shoe holder I had lined up perfectly with the pegs. The holder holes are to small to fit over the pegs so bring zip ties, string, or ribbon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talex831 Posted November 23, 2013 #7 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Pack less crap and you won't need one. Cruised a dozen times with four people in a stateroom and have never needed one. People bring too much stuff they don't need. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Jag Posted December 26, 2013 Author #8 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Thanks for the replies! Shmoo, I take two sets of bungees. My banner has metal grommets in each corner, so one end of a bungee goes in each grommet. Then I cross the bungees on the back of the door and attach all the remaining ends to each other so that the make an "X." But maybe I'll just use twine or string this time. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenseib Posted December 26, 2013 #9 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Thanks for the replies! Shmoo, I take two sets of bungees. My banner has metal grommets in each corner, so one end of a bungee goes in each grommet. Then I cross the bungees on the back of the door and attach all the remaining ends to each other so that the make an "X." But maybe I'll just use twine or string this time. :cool: You are not allowed to attached anything to the actual door unless it is a magnet now. Maybe I am misunderstanding what you are saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdvlprof Posted December 26, 2013 #10 Share Posted December 26, 2013 (edited) Pack less crap and you won't need one. Cruised a dozen times with four people in a stateroom and have never needed one. People bring too much stuff they don't need. yup. :) 12-days, carry-on suitcase, computer bag, purse. Edited December 26, 2013 by mdvlprof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullDawg91 Posted December 26, 2013 #11 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Maybe a magnetic hook with the banner hanging from it? Would that be okay? I'm of the "take less crap" school too. We found the Dream to have plenty of storage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex techie Posted December 26, 2013 #12 Share Posted December 26, 2013 Thanks for the replies! Shmoo, I take two sets of bungees. My banner has metal grommets in each corner, so one end of a bungee goes in each grommet. Then I cross the bungees on the back of the door and attach all the remaining ends to each other so that the make an "X." But maybe I'll just use twine or string this time. :cool: For goodness sakes, no banner unless it is attached by magnets ONLY! http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showpost.php?p=38068760&postcount=1 Just do what they ask! Magnetic ONLY! Buy some magnetic stick on strips and use those! ex techie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Jag Posted December 27, 2013 Author #13 Share Posted December 27, 2013 For goodness sakes, no banner unless it is attached by magnets ONLY! http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showpost.php?p=38068760&postcount=1 Just do what they ask! Magnetic ONLY! Buy some magnetic stick on strips and use those! ex techie Wow, sorry to have stressed you out over something simple like a banner! :rolleyes: Just calm down, I'm NOT attaching the banner directly to the door. It's essentially "tied" to the door like a ribbon around a Christmas present. I usually use bungees because it's easier, but if just the mention of bungees sends people into apoplectic shock, then I will use twine or string. Deep breaths, now. It's all good. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moki'smommy Posted December 27, 2013 #14 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Do you not understand that DCL says you cannot attach anything to your door in any way except with magnets? What I'm hearing is multiple ways to work around the rule. There are 2 issues--messing up the paint on the doors and the bulk of whatever causing the door to be in mis-alignment. As a consequence, the regulation is that you attach only by magnets and that you may be charged if you use any other means (if other means require that the door be painted or reinstalled. Maybe one of your ideas will work--using twine or Christmas ribbon or whatever. But it is still a violation of DCL's rules! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex techie Posted December 27, 2013 #15 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Wow, sorry to have stressed you out over something simple like a banner! :rolleyes:Just calm down, I'm NOT attaching the banner directly to the door. It's essentially "tied" to the door like a ribbon around a Christmas present. I usually use bungees because it's easier, but if just the mention of bungees sends people into apoplectic shock, then I will use twine or string. Deep breaths, now. It's all good. :D It's not your door, you don't own it! You rented it, like the room. And you obviously missed (or skipped over) the part of Shmoo's post where it mention door alignment? Besides the scratch damage (both to the door and the frame), because the doors are a fairly tight fit into the frames, some of the doors were being forced out of alignment due to the extra metal between them on the over the door hangers.. No one on here is having an apoplectic shock, I personally are just stunned at how you can disregard the request to ONLY USE MAGNETIC ADHESION for your banner? As requested by the cruise line. Specifically. Use your twine or string if you must. BUT the cruise line ask that you USE MAGNETS ONLY. NO Twine, NO String, No Ribbons, No nothing, except for MAGNETS. Why is that so hard for you to just do what they ask? ex techie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Jag Posted December 27, 2013 Author #16 Share Posted December 27, 2013 It's not your door, you don't own it! You rented it, like the room.And you obviously missed (or skipped over) the part of Shmoo's post where it mention door alignment? No one on here is having an apoplectic shock, I personally are just stunned at how you can disregard the request to ONLY USE MAGNETIC ADHESION for your banner? As requested by the cruise line. Specifically. Use your twine or string if you must. BUT the cruise line ask that you USE MAGNETS ONLY. NO Twine, NO String, No Ribbons, No nothing, except for MAGNETS. Why is that so hard for you to just do what they ask? ex techie Calm down, dear. Magnets on my vinyl banner will just slide down the door, which means possibly scratching the door. :eek: Ergo, I will use twine or string in accordance with the "spirit of the law," thereby not damaging the door. Inhale. Exhale. Ohmmmmmmm :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex techie Posted December 27, 2013 #17 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Calm down, dear. Magnets on my vinyl banner will just slide down the door, which means possibly scratching the door. :eek: Ergo, I will use twine or string in accordance with the "spirit of the law," thereby not damaging the door.Inhale. Exhale. Ohmmmmmmm :cool: Then one can only consider this a closed thread by yourself as you already have your plan made. And as John would say, FFS. I have no need for you to tell me to inhale or exhale, by body does that for me thanks. Good luck using the "spirit of the law" once aboard. I'm sure you will find your feet once very much grounded by the Cast, Crew and other good people aboard your cruise. Wish you all the best. ex techie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Host Mick Posted December 27, 2013 #18 Share Posted December 27, 2013 (edited) Assuming that shipboard fire codes are similar to the NFPA codes on land: The door gasket is a smoke seal. You can not have anything crossing the door gasket. Edited December 27, 2013 by Host Mick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenseib Posted December 27, 2013 #19 Share Posted December 27, 2013 Keep in mind that sometimes the cast members are not even saying anything to the guests and just adding the charge now. I have seen a few people now come home with unknown charges only to find out when they call it's for things like this. Now it really will depend on your room steward and if he says anything or anyone walking down the hall. They may not care one bit and you will be fine. I know different CM's sometimes are more strict than others. I have taken pictures of my daughter in the club before and once I was going to take one in front of the clu of my daughter, as she was washing her hands, with only my niece next to her and I was told I wasn't allowed to. so again it just depends. I know I am not understanding how you are tying it to the door but I think host Mick may have a point too. Be sure it doesn't mess with any seals. But I kind of remember being able to stick something under the door once when leaving a note for friends, so they might not be air tight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex techie Posted December 27, 2013 #20 Share Posted December 27, 2013 The door isn't air tight, it doesn't need to be. Smoke by it's nature is hot so it rises. The gasket would go around the doors left, top and right side. Unlike watertight doors. ex techie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Jag Posted December 30, 2013 Author #21 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I called and asked. (Something I guess I should have done to begin with.) I was told twine would be okay - just nothing like adhesives or anything that will mar the door or remove the paint. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shmoo here Posted December 30, 2013 #22 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I called and asked. (Something I guess I should have done to begin with.) I was told twine would be okay - just nothing like adhesives or anything that will mar the door or remove the paint. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Be aware, if you call and ask 3 different CMs, you'll quite likely to get 3 different answers. The CMs answering the phones generally have no actual experience with how things work on the ships. And it's the people onboard the ship who make the decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moki'smommy Posted December 30, 2013 #23 Share Posted December 30, 2013 I'll echo the above--many of the CMs who handle phones have never even been on the ships (ask them!) A tour isn't even part of their training. The key is that if you mar the paint or disturb the alignment of the door, you will be charged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jenseib Posted December 30, 2013 #24 Share Posted December 30, 2013 Be aware, if you call and ask 3 different CMs, you'll quite likely to get 3 different answers. The CMs answering the phones generally have no actual experience with how things work on the ships. And it's the people onboard the ship who make the decisions. Yep!!! I have been given some really bad advice from phone CM's some including passport info. :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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