shipfriend_max Posted January 9, 2015 #3501 Share Posted January 9, 2015 I was wondering if RCI are doing some sort of pattern here by first taking a ship from the US market (global) and then moving her to Europe for a season with a dry dock involved along the way and then move the ship to Asia and Pacific and then maybe on to the west coast. This would take some ships around the world in a 3 deployment season pattern, similarly to what they are now going to do with Explorer. They could then have one ship going westbound every year, while they have another ship going eastbound, similarly to what they are doing Rhapsody. Hmm, I think the two eastbound heading ships could be Navigator and Oasis, heading from US via Europe to Far East and Australia... MAYBE, but it is in unconfirmed rumor: Radiance is heading to Europe from Australia via Far East... but if it would be the case, I didn't have any idea which ship replaced her in Alaska... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff2802 Posted January 9, 2015 #3502 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Hmm, I think the two eastbound heading ships could be Navigator and Oasis, heading from US via Europe to Far East and Australia... MAYBE, but it is in unconfirmed rumor: Radiance is heading to Europe from Australia via Far East... but if it would be the case, I didn't have any idea which ship replaced her in Alaska... Radiance could stay on in Alaska even if she isn't in Australia - she could work the Caribbean in the northen winter. I hadn't heard the Europe rumour, only the "Australia is losing Radiance" one. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipfriend_max Posted January 9, 2015 #3503 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Radiance could stay on in Alaska even if she isn't in Australia - she could work the Caribbean in the northen winter. I hadn't heard the Europe rumour, only the "Australia is losing Radiance" one. Yes, of course she could do the Caribbean druing the (northern) winter period, or US West Coast and Hawaii in winter. But if Brilliance is really leaving the Baltic area in summer 2016 and heads to Mediterranean, I think she would need a replacement as well - maybe Radiance than... we will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norcalemt02 Posted January 9, 2015 #3504 Share Posted January 9, 2015 To do the Hawaii cruise she'd have to start in a non-US port, such as Ensenada, Mexico or Vancouver. I don't know if Victoria is able to be an embarkation port. Not true princess offer a round trip cruise from San Francisco. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave85 Posted January 9, 2015 #3505 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Not true princess offer a round trip cruise from San Francisco. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Yeah, it's legal because they stop at Ensenada on the way back. Sent from my iPhone using Cruise Critic Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahecht Posted January 9, 2015 #3506 Share Posted January 9, 2015 Not true princess offer a round trip cruise from San Francisco. Sent from my iPhone using Forums That's also because that is a round trip. A repositioning cruise between US ports would need to stop at a DISTANT foreign port (either South America or Kiribati, at least until Kiribati is wiped out by global warming). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashland Posted January 9, 2015 #3507 Share Posted January 9, 2015 So what's everyone's guess on which ship out of Harwich for Baltics 2016 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brfan Posted January 10, 2015 #3508 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Not true princess offer a round trip cruise from San Francisco. Sent from my iPhone using Forums That's okay because the cruise starts/ends at the same US port. In that case they only need to go to a foreign port. However to start in one US port (eg. Seattle) and end in another US port (eg Honolulu) the ship needs to stop at a distant foreign port and neither Vancouver or Ensenada are considered distant foreign ports. This is why when Rhapsody was based in Seattle for the Alaska season that the last Alaska cruise started in Seattle and ended in Vancouver. Then she would head to Australia with the Vancouver to Honolulu and Honolulu to Sydney cruises. She wasn't allowed to do Seattle to Honolulu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted January 10, 2015 #3509 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I haven't been on any of the X ships in years. I've sailed Horizon, Zenith, Century and Galaxy. Loved them all! I'm guessing they are all sold off now?We sailed into Charleston on Galaxy I think back in 2002. That's when I fell in love with Charleston! Perhaps someday we'll get a nice ship sailing out of here and not just stopping here!:o:rolleyes: Cheryl I would like a good X or RCI ship sailing out of Charleston. The anti-cruise lobby is pretty ferocious though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted January 10, 2015 #3510 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I was wondering if RCI are doing some sort of pattern here by first taking a ship from the US market (global) and then moving her to Europe for a season with a dry dock involved along the way and then move the ship to Asia and Pacific and then maybe on to the west coast. This would take some ships around the world in a 3 deployment season pattern, similarly to what they are now going to do with Explorer. They could then have one ship going westbound every year, while they have another ship going eastbound, similarly to what they are doing Rhapsody. Taking QU out of the US market was a sudden decision as QU was meant to stay in Bayonne year round. The big problem was that Bermuda had not dredged enough for the QU to dock. So RCI decided to send it to the fast developing China market. Liberty will do the Bermuda itineraries and then Anthem comes to Bayonne in the fall. RCI is banking on Bermuda dredging being sufficient for AN to dock in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted January 10, 2015 #3511 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Port schedules now confirm that Brilliance of the Seas should return to Tampa following her European Season in 2016. Brilliance of the Seas 2016 / 2017 Deployment Transatlantic 18-Apr Tampa departure 27-Apr Funchal, Madeira, Portugal 29-Apr Gibraltar 30-Apr Malaga, Spain ? (Cartegena/Valencia) 2-May Barcelona arrival 2 May Barcelona Summer Season 2016 3-May Cannes ... Series of MED sailings Transatlantic 17 Oct Barcelona departure Malaga/Cartagena/Valencia 20-Oct Gibraltar 22-Oct Funchal, Madeira, Portugal 29-Oct Arrival Tampa for winter season 16/17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MADflyer Posted January 10, 2015 #3512 Share Posted January 10, 2015 Port schedules indicate that Rhapsody of the Seas should return to Brazil for the South American season 2016/2017 following her deployment for the European Season 2016. While the April 2016 TA is open for sale for arrival in Barcelona, Rhapsody should do a series of Eastern and Western MED itineraries calling on such ports as Valencia and Naples among others. Rhapsody leaves the MED with calls at Lisbon on the 19th of November 2016, Funchal, Madeira, Portugal on the 21st of November and then the 23rd of November at Tenerife on her way to Brazil arriving in Rio around the 1 of December, 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
counsdr Posted January 10, 2015 #3513 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I would like a good X or RCI ship sailing out of Charleston. The anti-cruise lobby is pretty ferocious though. You're right Sherri those old time Charlestonians don't want any more RIF Raf like that Rhett Butler sailing any more of their beautiful harbors and causing Trouble!!! Let's storm the docks with Enchantment, Celebrity and other pretty little ships! Cheryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipfriend_max Posted January 10, 2015 #3514 Share Posted January 10, 2015 So what's everyone's guess on which ship out of Harwich for Baltics 2016 ? At least mine, IMHO there are several options. Radiance, maybe even a Voyager Class ship or Vision otS. Serenade surely keeps on sailing from Copenhagen and Stockholm. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted January 10, 2015 #3515 Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) You're right Sherri those old time Charlestonians don't want any more RIF Raf like that Rhett Butler sailing any more of their beautiful harbors and causing Trouble!!! Let's storm the docks with Enchantment, Celebrity and other pretty little ships! Cheryl A lot of the lobby is from environmental groups too. I do have to say thata my SIL, who works downtown, says that traffic is bad when ships are in town. I don't know if that is from embarking/disembarking passengers or port stops. Embarking and disembarking passengers spend more for hotels, meals etc. than cruisers just stopping in Charleston for the day as many do not patronize the restaurants. However, I would think they would do tours etc. that would bring in revenue. Edited January 10, 2015 by SherriZ366 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruzin-K Posted January 11, 2015 #3516 Share Posted January 11, 2015 So what's everyone's guess on which ship out of Harwich for Baltics 2016 ? At least mine, IMHO there are several options.Radiance, maybe even a Voyager Class ship or Vision otS. Serenade surely keeps on sailing from Copenhagen and Stockholm. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app I hope it's still a Radiance class for the next few years. That cruise is high on my list of possibilities for a belated birthday cruise in 2018 :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
counsdr Posted January 11, 2015 #3517 Share Posted January 11, 2015 A lot of the lobby is from environmental groups too. I do have to say thata my SIL, who works downtown, says that traffic is bad when ships are in town. I don't know if that is from embarking/disembarking passengers or port stops. Embarking and disembarking passengers spend more for hotels, meals etc. than cruisers just stopping in Charleston for the day as many do not patronize the restaurants. However, I would think they would do tours etc. that would bring in revenue. Sherri, the streets are very crowded on days when ships are in town, but that is rare as there are very few ships that dock in Charleston for the day. The only ship that sails out of Charleston is the Carnival Fantasy (?) and I think she mainly does 5 day cruises. We do have a lot of cargo ships. BMW loads up cars all the time. I do know that there is a big environmental lobby not wanting ships in town. Charleston has been rated the number 1 and number 2 best tourist city in the world for several years now. It is full of history and beauty, but traffic can be a problem for this little city! Cheryl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted January 12, 2015 #3518 Share Posted January 12, 2015 (edited) Sherri, the streets are very crowded on days when ships are in town, but that is rare as there are very few ships that dock in Charleston for the day. The only ship that sails out of Charleston is the Carnival Fantasy (?) and I think she mainly does 5 day cruises. We do have a lot of cargo ships. BMW loads up cars all the time.I do know that there is a big environmental lobby not wanting ships in town. Charleston has been rated the number 1 and number 2 best tourist city in the world for several years now. It is full of history and beauty, but traffic can be a problem for this little city! Cheryl I've seen the Fantasy when it sailed out and I was on the bridge heading for Wild Dunes. Vision did port stops over the summer for their cruise that left from Fort Lauderdale and did Bermuda and Bahamas in addition to Charleston. I've seen the cargo ships sailing in when we drive to DI. It is interesting how Charleston's port is interspersed around the city. We are closer to Savannah (where SIL's family lives and he and DD lived for 5 years) and the port is in a more contained area (past the Talmadge bridge). Edited January 12, 2015 by SherriZ366 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipfriend_max Posted January 13, 2015 #3519 Share Posted January 13, 2015 That's interesting - in Venice the mega ship ban has been lifted - at least currently: http://www.cruiseindustrynews.com/cruise-news/12110-venice-megaship-ban-lifted.html Maybe that affects RCI's Europe deployment for 2016 - a Voyager Class ship with Venice itineraries, for example??? :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaii697 Posted January 13, 2015 #3520 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Allure of the Seas, you can book up to end of May 2016 - ok, this might be subject to change, but I think, after that particular cruise starting in May,she is unlikely to head to Europe in June... So I'd reckon that in June Oasis might sail Europe, or the new Oasis III... Oh no, please say it ain't so!!! LeSigh! We were originally going to sail on May 29th, but the daughter's graduation is the Tuesday after Memorial Day. So, we have to sail the following weekend. Geez, schools just don't make things easy for a parent when planning a cruise! :rolleyes: :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BillOh Posted January 13, 2015 #3521 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Again, FWIW, someone on Facebook reported that one difference in the 3rd Oasis class is the pool in the solarium maybe more like the pool in the Quantum solarium (A real pool) I've always thought the pool in Allure's solarium was about worthless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipfriend_max Posted January 13, 2015 #3522 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Oh no, please say it ain't so!!! LeSigh!We were originally going to sail on May 29th, but the daughter's graduation is the Tuesday after Memorial Day. So, we have to sail the following weekend. Geez, schools just don't make things easy for a parent when planning a cruise! :rolleyes: :D But if you look for Allure in June 2016 and Oasis sails Europe in Europe 2016, what's your actual problem? ;) And, unless which ship sails Europe, and which stays in Florida: At least one of those two ships should stay at Florida - and would it make a difference for you, if Oasis or Allure? ;) I think the lifting of the cruise ship ban (> 96'000 GT) at Venice might affect RCI's Europe deployment... we will see. At least in one german travel agency Navigator otS is showed as "sold out" between January and April 2016 - might it just be a system failure or may RCI plan some major changings regarding her deployment?? :confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawaii697 Posted January 13, 2015 #3523 Share Posted January 13, 2015 But if you look for Allure in June 2016 and Oasis sails Europe in Europe 2016, what's your actual problem? ;)And, unless which ship sails Europe, and which stays in Florida: At least one of those two ships should stay at Florida - and would it make a difference for you, if Oasis or Allure? ;) : Oh, the ship doesn't matter. It's when you stated "subject to change", threw me. Maybe I read your quote wrong. I'm reading that both ships maybe sailing out of Europe. I don't care whether I sail on the Allure or Oasis or which US port it sails out of, as long as I can sail on either ship to the Caribbean. We are ready to sail on another cruiseline. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shipfriend_max Posted January 13, 2015 #3524 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Oh, the ship doesn't matter. It's when you stated "subject to change", threw me. Maybe I read your quote wrong. I'm reading that both ships maybe sailing out of Europe. I don't care whether I sail on the Allure or Oasis or which US port it sails out of, as long as I can sail on either ship to the Caribbean. We are ready to sail on another cruiseline. :D No, definitely not both - one should stay at US... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
exarkkun Posted January 13, 2015 #3525 Share Posted January 13, 2015 Send in the Grandeur or Galaxy for all I care! Even the Caribbean Princess would be fine, just send me a ship!!! I agree! I live in Chattanooga so driving to Charleston would be so much easier on us! I know that Mobile will not homeport a ship again anytime soon, NOLA is too much of a hassle, Savannah would perish the thought, and Jacksonville has no RC ships. Thus, we have to do Carnival from JAXPORT this year, since it's the closest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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