Homosassa Posted February 14, 2014 #26 Share Posted February 14, 2014 In the NCL example I mentioned, the man in the cabin next to me was case zero. He lied on his health form and headed straight for the buffet on Friday. By Sunday, norovirus was affecting other pasengers. The gentleman in question was ID by his cabin steward on Saturday as being ill (cabin stewards can tell if someone is ill by certain details in the bathrooms and bedding). He was quarantined. He left his cabin and went to the Latitudes party (return guests) on Sunday where he loudly proclaimed that quarantine was a bunch of hooey (I was sitting on the next table). He was again was told to stay in his cabin; in port the next day (St Thomas), he managed to get off the ship. The crew Captain went ashore, found him in port and ordered him back on ship (my husband witnessed this). He was escorted back on the ship and security was posted outside his door. (He was in the cabin next to us). He once again managed to leave his cabin when security left the door unguarded. At this point, he and his wife were both confined to cabin under 24 hour guard and he was escorted off the ship at the next port of call and turned over to the local health authorities. Because of this Bozo, our deck was hard hit by noro. People were touching the elevator call buttons and other surfaces the ******* contaminated Ten cabins on our side of the ship were quarantined. I was told most of these detains by our cabin steward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pauleydm Posted February 15, 2014 #27 Share Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) I have performed for two different cruise lines...there is a brig:) Edited February 15, 2014 by pauleydm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruizinisthebest Posted February 15, 2014 #28 Share Posted February 15, 2014 I have the same opinion as you. If you have an outbreak of a Norovirus that involves 300 plus people I just can't see 300 employees sitting outside of everyone's door to keep them in. I'm sure there is a brig, at least on some ships, and I'm sure a sick and hard-headed passenger may have their cabin watched by steward round the clock. I also know and have heard of passengers being confined to their rooms for bad behavior until they get booted off the ship. So it possible that everyone is correct; especially since none of knows for sure what the OP was seeing guarded.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucy2mb Posted February 15, 2014 #29 Share Posted February 15, 2014 There were two cruises where we saw the guard outside a passenger's door. One was because of someone raping a girl and one was because a man verbally abused some employees in one of the shops onboard. One employee said it was the worst she had every experienced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
halos Posted February 15, 2014 #30 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Although there is a 'brig' on many (maybe all?) cruise ships, they will also put passengers on "house arrest" in their cabins, for some bahavioural issues. I've personally seen this done (not to me or mine!:eek:). I have seen this as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfb4cruzing Posted February 15, 2014 #31 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Too much BACON at breakfast.:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riclop Posted February 15, 2014 #32 Share Posted February 15, 2014 On our last cruise there was a cabin up the hall from us that had an employee sitting outside the room the entire cruise. The employee had a chair and was just stationed there. I couldnt tell if the employee was trying to keep someone out, or someone in :eek: Any ideas what might have been going on? I was too chicken to ask :p Keeping a sick person in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love my butler Posted February 15, 2014 #33 Share Posted February 15, 2014 In the NCL example I mentioned, the man in the cabin next to me was case zero. He lied on his health form and headed straight for the buffet on Friday. By Sunday, norovirus was affecting other pasengers. The gentleman in question was ID by his cabin steward on Saturday as being ill (cabin stewards can tell if someone is ill by certain details in the bathrooms and bedding). He was quarantined. He left his cabin and went to the Latitudes party (return guests) on Sunday where he loudly proclaimed that quarantine was a bunch of hooey (I was sitting on the next table). He was again was told to stay in his cabin; in port the next day (St Thomas), he managed to get off the ship. The crew Captain went ashore, found him in port and ordered him back on ship (my husband witnessed this). He was escorted back on the ship and security was posted outside his door. (He was in the cabin next to us). He once again managed to leave his cabin when security left the door unguarded. At this point, he and his wife were both confined to cabin under 24 hour guard and he was escorted off the ship at the next port of call and turned over to the local health authorities. Because of this Bozo, our deck was hard hit by noro. People were touching the elevator call buttons and other surfaces the ******* contaminated Ten cabins on our side of the ship were quarantined. I was told most of these detains by our cabin steward. You should have washed your hands more often, with soap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCruisers Posted February 15, 2014 #34 Share Posted February 15, 2014 This happened to someone once on a Celebrity cruise with us. The guy was a "flasher" but otherwise harmless. They kept him in his cabin with a guard at the door until he was escorted off the ship at the next port. LuLu ~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG_Steve Posted February 15, 2014 #35 Share Posted February 15, 2014 This happened to someone once on a Celebrity cruise with us.The guy was a "flasher" but otherwise harmless. They kept him in his cabin with a guard at the door until he was escorted off the ship at the next port. LuLu ~~~ They should have put him in the brig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radlad68 Posted February 15, 2014 #36 Share Posted February 15, 2014 That happened on a cruise we've been on before. People were escorted off the ship at the first port. They weren't allowed to shut their door or leave the room. It was illegal drugs found in their case. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djhsolara Posted February 15, 2014 #37 Share Posted February 15, 2014 Are there no privacy laws that apply on a ship? I can't imagine that it is proper for a guard sitting outside of a cabin door to tell anyone why he/she is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbsteve Posted February 15, 2014 #38 Share Posted February 15, 2014 http://www.cruiselawnews.com/2012/05/articles/weird-cruise-news/200000000-false-imprisonment-lawsuit-filed-against-royal-caribbean-in-wrong-courthouse/ There's a brig on ships at sea. This suit may be why it's not used though. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homosassa Posted February 15, 2014 #39 Share Posted February 15, 2014 You should have washed your hands more often, with soap. I do wash my hands with soap and skip the ineffective hand sanitizer - I never came down with noro on that cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awhcruiser Posted February 15, 2014 #40 Share Posted February 15, 2014 (edited) The sick man shouldn't have lied to get on the ship. You should have washed your hands more often, with soap. Edited February 15, 2014 by awhcruiser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
misstopgun Posted February 15, 2014 #41 Share Posted February 15, 2014 The sick man shouldn't have lied to get on the ship. I agree no one should lie and risk getting hundreds more sick. I do think if the cruise line made it possible for them to reschedule without penalty if they were sick, (requiring medical documents of course), there wouldn't be as many who did lie. If one has paid thousands for a cruise and they will lose it all if they don't go, it would be very tempting to make the wrong choice. No, it's not the right thing to do, but I understand that some would without any other option other than losing all they invested. I also know that the ship will quarantine passengers with tummy complaints out of precaution even though it may be just a minor complaint. My sister and her husband were quarantined for 24 hours because they went to the infirmary to get medication for mild diarrhea because they had forgotten to bring anything with them. They were not feeling poorly otherwise and not running a fever. They just were not accustomed to the rich foods they had been eating. Lesson learned. Now they remember their Pepto. We have been fortunate and have never become ill. We wash our hands religiously and try not to touch our face with our hands and avoid heavy hand contact surfaces. I start each cruise sanitizing counters, handles, remotes, telephone, etc. with Clorox wipes. We use knuckles for elevator buttons and avoid stair railings. I am not convinced that they would post a guard for a sick person. I would think that if one truly had noro virus they wouldn't feel well enough to leave their room. I understand it's nasty stuff. It's anybody's guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dare2Believe Posted February 15, 2014 #42 Share Posted February 15, 2014 There are no passenger cruise ship jail/brig. Anytime there is a crew member stations at a passenger door, its for bad behavior. Cruise lines cannot detain people in a jail/brig. That would be like kidnaping. While on our behind the fun tour of the Freedom, we were shown the brig...:confused::confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gritsnc Posted February 15, 2014 #43 Share Posted February 15, 2014 On our last cruise there was a cabin up the hall from us that had an employee sitting outside the room the entire cruise. The employee had a chair and was just stationed there. I couldnt tell if the employee was trying to keep someone out, or someone in :eek: Any ideas what might have been going on? I was too chicken to ask :p Were you on the Fantasy by any chance? During our cruise, a young 20-something year old couple got extremely trashed and started fighting. The girl locked him out of their room and for 20 minutes, he screamed, yelled and threatened to kick the door in. When he began throwing himself into the door, I called security. He was cussing up a storm and was out of his mind. Security came and even took pictures. They split the couple up, put them in rooms across from one another, wouldn't allow them out of their rooms and guarded their doors for the entire rest of the day, all through the night and through part of the next day. Mind you, this happened on the SECOND day of the cruise. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikel1733 Posted February 16, 2014 #44 Share Posted February 16, 2014 We had the same situation with a guard posted outside room next to ours. On the 2nd day I finally asked the guard and he said the rooms two male passengers who were confined to their room until we reached the next port where they would be removed from the ship. We heard from other passengers in our area the young men who were old enough to drink had taken an underage girl to their cabin and gave her alcohol which evidently then led to other activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Terre Posted February 16, 2014 #45 Share Posted February 16, 2014 Most likely quarantined. My uncle came down with Noro a few years ago and they kept someone outside his door to make sure he didn't leave. My aunt, however, who was with him most of the time, could come and go...go figure!:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OCruisers Posted February 16, 2014 #46 Share Posted February 16, 2014 I've never seen a guard at the door for someone ill ... just a couple of times for folks who were being escorted off at the next port and were confined to cabins. Wow! If they tried to do that for everyone with Noro it would take too many people. Also, those in cabins with others who have Noro are told to stay in their cabins as well. DH had Noro once on a HAL ship. No one was ever stationed outside of our cabin. LuLu ~~~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 1kaper Posted February 16, 2014 #47 Share Posted February 16, 2014 (edited) I've never seen a guard at the door for someone ill ... just a couple of times for folks who were being escorted off at the next port and were confined to cabins. Wow! If they tried to do that for everyone with Noro it would take too many people. Also, those in cabins with others who have Noro are told to stay in their cabins as well. DH had Noro once on a HAL ship. No one was ever stationed outside of our cabin. LuLu ~~~ Again, from my understanding it isn't for everyone who is quarantined. It is for those who are quarantined and do not obey it. Or possibly the first few people to come down with it to ensure containment. Someone else mentioned if they had Noro they would be too sick to leave - possibly. But lots of people get quarantined as a precaution and do not necessarily have Noro. If they will keep you in your room when you are too drunk and causing problems, why wouldn't they keep you in your room if you are sick and still going out in public and possibly spreading a contagious illness? Edited February 16, 2014 by 1kaper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Terre Posted February 16, 2014 #48 Share Posted February 16, 2014 My aunt and uncle were on a Princess ship. He was too sick to get out of bed, but they had someone stationed outside their door. My aunt could leave, but not him, even if he could. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Love my butler Posted February 16, 2014 #49 Share Posted February 16, 2014 The sick man shouldn't have lied to get on the ship. You can't control the sick man but you can control washing your hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAPERBKWRITER Posted February 16, 2014 #50 Share Posted February 16, 2014 On our last cruise there was a cabin up the hall from us that had an employee sitting outside the room the entire cruise. The employee had a chair and was just stationed there. I couldnt tell if the employee was trying to keep someone out, or someone in :eek: Any ideas what might have been going on? I was too chicken to ask :p I doubt if the guard would tell you anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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