Single Cruiser Posted July 16, 2014 #201 Share Posted July 16, 2014 How will the no-smoking policy effect the October 27,2014 cruise for 11 days~~November 1st will be in the middle of me cruise! I hadn't heard about a no smoking policy! :eek: Only that NCL had changed it's existing policy of restrictions on where one can smoke onboard! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare KeithJenner Posted July 16, 2014 #202 Share Posted July 16, 2014 To answer your question, the policy states it is for cruises commencing after that date, so if your cruise starts in October then the current rules will apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triptolemus Posted July 16, 2014 #203 Share Posted July 16, 2014 (edited) To answer your question, the policy states it is for cruises commencing after that date, so if your cruise starts in October then the current rules will apply. No it doesn't! It doesn't say that at all! It says for all sailings on or after November 1, 2014. Interpret that however you want, but the new policy doesn't use the word "commencing" -- to me that means a sailing occurring on Nov 1 would be subject to the policy. But who knows... the reality is the roll-out will be a bit different ship to ship. Edited July 16, 2014 by triptolemus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare KeithJenner Posted July 16, 2014 #204 Share Posted July 16, 2014 No it doesn't! It doesn't say that at all! It says Interpret that however you want, but the new policy doesn't use the word "commencing" -- to me that means a sailing occurring on Nov 1 would be subject to the policy. You have a point, sorry. I read it as saying that any cruise that starts on 1st November or after is covered by the new policy. Those that start in October don't. I acknowledge that my reading of it may be incorrect though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CI66774 Posted July 16, 2014 #205 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Princess at least allows e-cigs everywhere except MDR and show lounge. Think I will look into cruising with them next. Actually, if any other Princess cruiser complains, then you CANNOT smoke an e-cig. Did it on Royal Princess when someone was smoking at next table and me and my 5 year-old daughter could smell it. Manager of restaurant politely told them to put it away - and they did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog3777 Posted July 16, 2014 #206 Share Posted July 16, 2014 You read it correctly. It has been clarified on this forum elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linny13 Posted July 16, 2014 #207 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Our last cruise on the NCL Breakaway we were in a balcony cabin and there were smokers in the cabins on both sides of us:(.....even if I just wanted to open our door to get some fresh air in, I had to close it because we couldn't breathe from the smoke. I paid for a balcony that we could not enjoy. I think we sat there one time the entire cruise, because no one was home next door!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bulldog3777 Posted July 16, 2014 #208 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Actually most ecigs utilize nicotine. Not in mine. I use zero nicotine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DebJ14 Posted July 16, 2014 #209 Share Posted July 16, 2014 1st I wish there was a like button for some of the posts ! How many times has a ship actually had a fire from a cigarette ??? I read more about stupid acts that people ( usually alcohol related) do than I have ever read about a fire caused by a cigerette. How many times has a drunk caused accidents on board (happens everytime we have been on a ship.) throwing up all over the place in public areas, disorderly, ??? I am going to guess the drunk situations are "over looked" because NCL is making money from those drinks. I have never seen a bar on a cruise ever cut off drinks to a passenger that clearly should have been on a cruise. Hell they cant even enforce the rules they have and they are going to add to the list. You can't be serious? Fire is the biggest danger at sea. Tell that to the passengers on the Star Princess in 2006, especially the man who died and those who had to be treated for smoke inhalation. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/11975460/ns/us_news-life/t/cigarette-eyed-cause-cruise-blaze/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mianmike Posted July 16, 2014 #210 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I see my post was deleted! :eek: I thought my post about second-hand bacon smell was hilarious; apparently me and the moderators don’t share the same sense of humor. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S&S Cruisers 1983 Posted July 16, 2014 #211 Share Posted July 16, 2014 I am surprised this guy did not start a fire. He would smoke his pipe every evening and then dump the ashes, or whatever they are called, OVER THE SIDE (after looking real quick in both directions. He didn't look up though!). :eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hftmrock Posted July 16, 2014 #212 Share Posted July 16, 2014 You read it correctly. It has been clarified on this forum elsewhere. 2 people have 2 different interpretations and you say 'you' read it correctly... who is 'you' that you are referring to? this is like someone asking do you like blue or yellow and you respond 'yes' could you tell us which 'you' you are referring to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triptolemus Posted July 16, 2014 #213 Share Posted July 16, 2014 You can't be serious? Fire is the biggest danger at sea.Tell that to the passengers on the Star Princess in 2006, especially the man who died and those who had to be treated for smoke inhalation. http://www.nbcnews.com/id/11975460/ns/us_news-life/t/cigarette-eyed-cause-cruise-blaze/ Let's put that into some context... A fire apparently started by a cigarette broke out aboard a giant cruise ship early Thursday as it sailed through the moonlit Caribbean, leaving one passenger dead, 11 people injured and at least 100 rooms scorched. A smoldering cigarette is suspected as the cause of the blaze, said Horace Peterkin, president of the Jamaica Hotel and Tourist Association, who toured the ship after it docked here. When people ask "how many fires have been caused by cigarettes," I have to ask, how many would be enough to warrant additional safety protocols? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antsnanny Posted July 16, 2014 #214 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Well if they enforce it...Smokers will sit at the penny machines playing 9 cents a spin while smoking. It pretty much guarantees any machines in the smoking section will be occupied. Yikes ! I never thought of that.. The casino will become one big inside smoking lounge and it will cost smokers a lot less to play 9 cents a spin than the 250.00 clean up fee… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cougaraz Posted July 17, 2014 #215 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Is anyone really that surprised by this? I am sure there are lots of strong emotional responses, but from a logical, business perspective, this isn't much of a leap. Cruise lines exist for a single purpose, to make money. Those of us that enjoy cruising are the beneficiaries of their business activities and have a great time, but the companies aren't doing it out of the goodness of their hearts, they owe their shareholders a return. With that in mind, consider that less than 20% of American adults smoke (CDC), which means that more than 80% of adults do not. Consider then where cruise lines should focus their efforts in terms of rules and regulations, to please less than 20% of adults or to please 80% of adults PLUS all the children not counted in the CDC's statistics. I honestly don't care if you want to smoke, it is your life, your body and you are an adult. However, once it becomes a matter of me having to breathe it, it making my clothing smell, it making my room and balcony smell we have a problem. So far as I can manage, I endeavor to go through this world without having my behavior negatively impact anyone else, more so while traveling. This policy simply ensures that cruisers who chose to smoke will not negatively impact others, either by intent or the whimsy of the wind. The trend of restrictions on smoking has been moving forward for quite some time and every step there have been predictions of dire economic consequences, first when restaurants banned it outright and then bars (in many states and countries), but it just hasn't materialized. The time when the only smoking area on ships is a small outdoor area is coming and quickly. There will be many smokers who will be upset and choose not to cruise as a result, but it is a numbers game for cruise lines and decreasing numbers of smokers, increasing public restrictions elsewhere and a general trend toward smoke free environments across the board will be coming to sea in the near future. Again, I harbor no ill will toward smokers, most are fine upstanding citizens, they pay their fare and want to have a great cruise, but it is a numbers game for a business and as they are fewer and fewer smokers, there will be fewer and fewer areas aboard ship where they are permitted to smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antsnanny Posted July 17, 2014 #216 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Let's put that into some context... When people ask "how many fires have been caused by cigarettes," I have to ask, how many would be enough to warrant additional safety protocols? In addition, they did away with the plastic dividers that caused it to spread so fast and all that black smoke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garycarla Posted July 17, 2014 #217 Share Posted July 17, 2014 How will the no-smoking policy effect the October 27,2014 cruise for 11 days~~November 1st will be in the middle of me cruise! There are many threads about this with this topic going back and forth - date. Open to people and what they think it means. In any event, it is a change in policy and not a NO SMOKING policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyeSeaEwe Posted July 17, 2014 #218 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Come on people, really we are going to start up a debate on THIS? Sailing means the date a cruise starts. Thats cut and dried and not open to anything. This is really getting to the point of absurdity very quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuneauWhatIMean Posted July 17, 2014 #219 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Come on people, really we are going to start up a debate on THIS? Sailing means the date a cruise starts. Thats cut and dried and not open to anything. This is really getting to the point of absurdity very quickly. :rolleyes::D:rolleyes:~This~:rolleyes::D:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles4515 Posted July 17, 2014 #220 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Yikes ! I never thought of that.. The casino will become one big inside smoking lounge and it will cost smokers a lot less to play 9 cents a spin than the 250.00 clean up fee… If the casino becomes one big inside smoking lounge then the next step will be banning smoking in the casino. That is what happened on Celebrity. I suggest that smokers resist abusing the rule about playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeyetlse Posted July 17, 2014 #221 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) Princess at least allows e-cigs everywhere except MDR and show lounge.That used to be true, but the policy has changed, apparently very recently. Now they are only allowed in designated smoking areas and within your stateroom (not on the balcony). See their Onboard Experience FAQ: Electronic CigarettesThe use of electronic cigarettes is allowed within the confines of the passenger's stateroom (balcony not included) and within designated smoking areas only. Edited July 17, 2014 by hawkeyetlse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jame_g Posted July 17, 2014 #222 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) Non-smoker. I think this is a very bad idea. For those that think it's a good idea, just remember that your legal freedoms will be next on the list of things to be banned. Once the door is open, it's hard to shut. Oh, and as an example, your employers are already well on the way to trying to control what you eat, how much you weigh, and how active you need to be. What will be next? Edited July 17, 2014 by jame_g Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedish weave Posted July 17, 2014 #223 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Yikes ! I never thought of that.. The casino will become one big inside smoking lounge and it will cost smokers a lot less to play 9 cents a spin than the 250.00 clean up fee… Do you think NCL may make the five dollar machines the smoking section ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulsurf Posted July 17, 2014 #224 Share Posted July 17, 2014 That used to be true, but the policy has changed, apparently very recently. Now they are only allowed in designated smoking areas and within your stateroom (not on the balcony). See their Onboard Experience FAQ: Now that's a novel idea from Princess Cruise Lines.....OK to smoke ecigs in your stateroom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swedish weave Posted July 17, 2014 #225 Share Posted July 17, 2014 (edited) Non-smoker. I think this is a very bad idea. For those that think it's a good idea, just remember that your legal freedoms will be next on the list of things to be banned. Once the door is open, it's hard to shut. Oh, and as an example, your employers are already well on the way to trying to control what you eat, how much you weigh, and how active you need to be. What will be next? There is a simple solution to that weight problem. The employers could either fire an employee who violates the restrictions, or they could make them pay for their own insurance. They aren't making the rules to be mean, they are just attempting to control expenses. Obesity is a major problem and major expense. These controls could force some people to adapt a healthier lifestyle. Edited July 17, 2014 by swedish weave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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