Warm Breezes Posted July 18, 2014 #451 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) But it certainly makes a statement does it not ??Once again take things out of their original context to fit that square peg ..:rolleyes: I think the six year olds that come here after school realize the poll is not representative of the general public .. But it does indicate more cruisers smoke than you thought.. Come on , be honest .. Statisticians .... What do you think this is , a work Christmas Party.. You are looking at a poll from February 2007....The trend has been for people to quit smoking and/or not even start due to the rising price of cigarettes, more awareness to the dangers to their health, the laws limiting their use in both indoor and outdoor public places, and workplaces banning them over the last 7 years. Not only are you trying to use data from a self-selecting and small population it is extremely outdated and no longer relavent due to the changes in our laws and society in the last 7 years. I can't see any statement that comes from it that is reflective of today's society or current cruisers....that's me being honest:D. Edited July 18, 2014 by Warm Breezes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyD'Augstralia Posted July 18, 2014 #452 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Considering the cost of a GV, the cost of the 250.00 "cleaning fee" is a just a small add-on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaver1975 Posted July 18, 2014 #453 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Considering the cost of a GV' date=' the cost of the 250.00 "cleaning fee" is a just a small add-on.[/quote'] Don't forget those airline tickets home from the the next port where you are put off the ship. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyD'Augstralia Posted July 18, 2014 #454 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Naw, don't think so. Despite everyone's egalitarian fantasies of NCL, GV occupants do/get what they want. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casino Comp Chick Posted July 18, 2014 #455 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I spoke to corporate the other day and there is no throwing off the ship, just the $250.00 fine, which is fine with me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnytman Posted July 18, 2014 #456 Share Posted July 18, 2014 We didn't ask to "have the right to smoke" I was just saying that was one of the things some in our group wanted to do! Oh My God! I'm sorry I posted anything! Being in the GV doesn't come with privileges...it comes with a very steep price tag, you pay for what you get! I just sent Kevin Sheehan (the CEO of NCL) an email asking if smoking was permitted on the outdoor decks of the Garden Villas because it was unclear with the smoking policy. Here's his response: "It is allowed and I have just asked the team to make sure our team is aware. Thanks and sorry you had to ask me. Kevin" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeyetlse Posted July 18, 2014 #457 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) No one at NCL can answer if our friends that smoke can do so out in the private outside area of the GV. They say just pay the $250 "cleaning fee". My concern is all of us getting kicked off the ship, they assured us that wouldn't happen in the GV -- BUT I'm not 100% convinced. Me neither. You should ask them to send you that in writing. Otherwise the only way to be 100% sure you won't be kicked off for smoking is to ask the captain of your ship. Who knows, he could be a sympathetic fellow smoker :) (and I wonder where he and the other officers and the ship's crew are allowed to smoke). ETA: Looks like you got it in writing all right! :D Edited July 18, 2014 by hawkeyetlse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieAF Posted July 18, 2014 #458 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Rest assured that if smokers smoke on their balconies/in their cabins despite the ban...even if they pay the $250, if the smoke prohibits non-smokers from breathing fresh air on their balconies, there will be complaints and security knocking at doors. I am to assume I will be able to enjoy my balcony from now on without my air being polluted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capp Posted July 18, 2014 #459 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I just sent Kevin Sheehan (the CEO of NCL) an email asking if smoking was permitted on the outdoor decks of the Garden Villas because it was unclear with the smoking policy. Here's his response: "It is allowed and I have just asked the team to make sure our team is aware. Thanks and sorry you had to ask me. Kevin" Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioGirl Posted July 18, 2014 #460 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I just sent Kevin Sheehan (the CEO of NCL) an email asking if smoking was permitted on the outdoor decks of the Garden Villas because it was unclear with the smoking policy. Here's his response: "It is allowed and I have just asked the team to make sure our team is aware. Thanks and sorry you had to ask me. Kevin" Vinnytman - Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruznbelle Posted July 18, 2014 #461 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Naw' date=' don't think so. Despite everyone's egalitarian fantasies of NCL, GV occupants do/get what they want. ;)[/quote'] Finally SOMEONE said it! We are all thinking it though... and truely if I paid for a 3 bedroom / private outdoor space - emphasis on private - I would not expect to be chastised about smoking - goes w/ the territory - just like celebrities with taking their dogs everywhere - 'accomodations' are made at that price point. And before I get bashed - I'm NOT saying normal suites and balconies - but the GV is the GV just wished I could afford it for a 14 day cruise. For those really looking for alternatives - look at HAL's Pinnacle suites - with outdoor dining for 4-6, outdoor hot tub and incredible balcony space - it's certainly not the GV but it was pretty darn good (our last cruise). Every bit 5 star. Since we were traveling w/ relatives - we hosted happy hour on the balcony every day - best cruise we've ever had. Took 7 days just to figure out the darn lighting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewoodspark Posted July 18, 2014 #462 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Rest assured that if smokers smoke on their balconies/in their cabins despite the ban...even if they pay the $250, if the smoke prohibits non-smokers from breathing fresh air on their balconies, there will be complaints and security knocking at doors. I am to assume I will be able to enjoy my balcony from now on without my air being polluted. The penalty of $250 for SMOKING on the balcony or cabin (stateroom is far too formal),is presumably for the smoking of cigarettes. The vaping of E-cigs is therefore not punishable by any charge which should allow anybody vaping on the balcony no problem, providing that they are not seen by nosey neighbours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JulieAF Posted July 18, 2014 #463 Share Posted July 18, 2014 The penalty of $250 for SMOKING on the balcony or cabin (stateroom is far too formal),is presumably for the smoking of cigarettes. The vaping of E-cigs is therefore not punishable by any charge which should allow anybody vaping on the balcony no problem, providing that they are not seen by nosey neighbours. If it isn't smoke wafting onto my balcony or into my room, I don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyeSeaEwe Posted July 18, 2014 #464 Share Posted July 18, 2014 The penalty of $250 for SMOKING on the balcony or cabin (stateroom is far too formal),is presumably for the smoking of cigarettes. The vaping of E-cigs is therefore not punishable by any charge which should allow anybody vaping on the balcony no problem, providing that they are not seen by nosey neighbours. "Vaping" IS smoking. Go for it if you want, it is your $250 and your being put off of the cruise that you are risking. Your presumption is incorrect. Read the policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vinnytman Posted July 18, 2014 #465 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Wow, some people's sense of self importance is unbelievable. It makes me happy I can't afford the most expensive cabins where I would have to be near people like this. :eek: I don't think any of us that booked a GV have a "sense of self importance" -- at least I don't. I, for one, just wanted something clarified that no one in NCL's customer service dept. could not answer about the sundecks -- which aren't balconies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldmom Posted July 18, 2014 #466 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I just sent Kevin Sheehan (the CEO of NCL) an email asking if smoking was permitted on the outdoor decks of the Garden Villas because it was unclear with the smoking policy. Here's his response: "It is allowed and I have just asked the team to make sure our team is aware. Thanks and sorry you had to ask me. Kevin" Interesting. I wonder how this also applies to the DOS's on 15 or the Haven sun deck on 15. I would think no smoking, but who knows! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruznbelle Posted July 18, 2014 #467 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Just saw the answer to the GV - so ignore my post about HAL - GV is a bucket list item for me - may never come to pass but good news for those who can swing it. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyeSeaEwe Posted July 18, 2014 #468 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I spoke to corporate the other day and there is no throwing off the ship, just the $250.00 fine, which is fine with me. Then you did not read the written policy. Be careful, a written policy supercedes anything verbal. I am going to be careful since I do not want to risk any of the consequences in the policy. http://www.ncl.com/faq/guest-conduct-policy CONSEQUENCES FAILURE TO ACT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THIS POLICY MAY RESULT IN: Intervention by Security, other management personnel or law enforcement Removal of certain onboard privileges, which may include being detained, quarantined or confinement Confiscation of illegal/contraband/prohibited items (may be turned over to law enforcement authorities) and used for prosecution Denial of boarding on the current or any future Norwegian Cruise Line cruise vacation Reporting of incidents to government and law enforcement authorities for follow-on legal action Removal from ship at the next port-of-call. Guests removed from a Norwegian Cruise Line ship pursuant to this policy, are responsible. Documentation requirements for re-entry into the guest’s home country are also the responsibility of the guest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubechick Posted July 18, 2014 #469 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Wow, some people's sense of self importance is unbelievable. It makes me happy I can't afford the most expensive cabins where I would have to be near people like this. :eek: Wow. Nice way to twist around what the poster was asking!!! :eek::eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyeSeaEwe Posted July 18, 2014 #470 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Considering the cost of a GV' date=' the cost of the 250.00 "cleaning fee" is a just a small add-on.[/quote'] It is per offense and people can be removed form the ship as well. I'm going to play by the rules so I don't have to deal with the consequences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioGirl Posted July 18, 2014 #471 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I don't think any of us that booked a GV have a "sense of self importance" -- at least I don't. I, for one, just wanted something clarified that no one in NCL's customer service dept. could not answer about the sundecks -- which aren't balconies. We don't feel "Self Importance", we have never booked or sailed in the Garden Villa..but we booked it to celebrate my husband's 70th Birthday (which only comes once). Thank you again Vinnytman, you're my hero! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioGirl Posted July 18, 2014 #472 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Just saw the answer to the GV - so ignore my post about HAL - GV is a bucket list item for me - may never come to pass but good news for those who can swing it. :) I hope you get the chance to mark this off your bucket list! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hftmrock Posted July 18, 2014 #473 Share Posted July 18, 2014 The penalty of $250 for SMOKING on the balcony or cabin (stateroom is far too formal),is presumably for the smoking of cigarettes. The vaping of E-cigs is therefore not punishable by any charge which should allow anybody vaping on the balcony no problem, providing that they are not seen by nosey neighbours. While it is VERY unlikely that this will happen, technically the residue from the vapor will hit the floor or the counters or the windows or the railing. If they chose to, they could swab for traces of the residue and actually make it part of the daily cleaning. I HIGHLY doubt this will be done but dont think there isnt technology to find out if people are using ecigs where they shouldnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondie008 Posted July 18, 2014 #474 Share Posted July 18, 2014 We don't feel "Self Importance", we have never booked or sailed in the Garden Villa..but we booked it to celebrate my husband's 70th Birthday (which only comes once). Thank you again Vinnytman, you're my hero! Read your comment earlier - am chuffed to bits for you (as an ex smoker I think there is still a piece of my heart which is a militant die hard smoker!!) We have done that once in a lifetime suite- not on NCL, was on Royal - Hope your husband has an amazimg family birthday celebration!! Please bing back some photos - dont think I have seen these garden villas??? I am curious now ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luvtheships Posted July 18, 2014 #475 Share Posted July 18, 2014 (edited) NCL says its smoking policy is for the health and safety of passengers and crew.How about the passengers and crew in the casino? If I put a slot machine on my balcony, can I smoke there? What hypocrites. If they don't want the job then they don't take the job Maybe they don't get a job at all but that is their choice Last I knew they don't chain the dealers to the tables And I can choose to gamble or not I am not paying a premium for the casino use but am paying it for balcony use Fwiw. None if this is about health anyway it is about not having to spend the money to retrofit the ship with advanced smoke detectors Sent from my iPhone using Forums Edited July 18, 2014 by luvtheships Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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