davecttr Posted July 26, 2014 #1 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I have just read a link over on the Princess forum which gives shareholder benefit from 1 Aug this year until end of July next. they have reduced the amount of obc for P&O but retained the same value for their american brands :mad: the values for P&O are now £25, £50, £125 they used to be £30, £60, £150 If this is true I am not happy another example of discriminating against UK customers :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richleeds Posted July 26, 2014 #2 Share Posted July 26, 2014 A year ago the $ was 1.4 to the £, this July its 1.7, if you do the maths on the £125/£150 figures, the cost is around $210 for Carnival on both figures so its probably due to currency fluctuation rather than anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted July 26, 2014 Author #3 Share Posted July 26, 2014 (edited) I just checked the Carnival corp site and it still lists £150 etc etc for Uk brands through July 2015. so we now have 2 Carnival documents showing different values, confused? I am :confused::confused::confused: If they are taking the exchange rate into account then at the current rate $250 = £147 not £125! Anyway on P&O prices are in pounds. Edited July 26, 2014 by davecttr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HELEN HENRY Posted July 26, 2014 #4 Share Posted July 26, 2014 (edited) I just checked the Carnival corp site and it still lists £150 etc etc for Uk brands through July 2015. so we now have 2 Carnival documents showing different values, confused? I am :confused::confused::confused: If they are taking the exchange rate into account then at the current rate $250 = £147 not £125! Anyway on P&O prices are in pounds. Today I received £150 shareholder benefit. Edited July 26, 2014 by HELEN HENRY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davecttr Posted July 26, 2014 Author #5 Share Posted July 26, 2014 For your Azura transatlantic? If so maybe Carnival have got one of their documents wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom10 Posted July 26, 2014 #6 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Dont forget Carnival is an American company and any shareholder benefits will be agreed at annual meetings and agreed in dollars and then converted to pounds for P&O. The exchange rate for pound against the dollar is very good at the moment for the UK but the other way round if you were purchasing pounds in America you would get a lot less pounds than you would have done 12 months therefore everything in the UK will be dearer than it was 12 months ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjam cruisers Posted July 26, 2014 #7 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Hi Pat Sandra and I have been considering buying Carnival Shares for the benefits, how do you go about it. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richleeds Posted July 26, 2014 #8 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Dont forget Carnival is an American company and any shareholder benefits will be agreed at annual meetings and agreed in dollars and then converted to pounds for P&O. The exchange rate for pound against the dollar is very good at the moment for the UK but the other way round if you were purchasing pounds in America you would get a lot less pounds than you would have done 12 months therefore everything in the UK will be dearer than it was 12 months ago. Yes, as stated above, the benefit is probably costing Carnival the same but as the £ is much stronger this year they are getting and offering less £ for the $. I visit the States most months so I'm not complaining, much more bang for the buck - though I do remember when it was $1.98 to the £ and those were happy days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianI Posted July 26, 2014 #9 Share Posted July 26, 2014 (edited) I presume you are referring to this link from Princess http://boards.cruisecritic.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=317604&d=1403910758 Any shareholder payment on Princess is paid in dollars on your account so the reference to sterling is irrelevant. The correct information is shown on the Carnival website. http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External.File?item=UGFyZW50SUQ9MjI0MTc1fENoaWxkSUQ9LTF8VHlwZT0z&t=1 The sterling rates were increased in March 2013 to reflect the value of the pound against the dollar at that time. Any future change, if any, is unlikely to be made before March 2015. Brian Edited July 26, 2014 by BrianI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianI Posted July 26, 2014 #10 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Hi Pat Sandra and I have been considering buying Carnival Shares for the benefits, how do you go about it. Jim You can buy through any on line broker or via your bank. On line is cheaper. The closing price on Friday was £21.49. See BBC website. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business/market_data/shares/3/87234/default.stm Make sure you buy the London based shares in pounds and not the US ones in dollars. 100 shares will cost you £2149 plus stamp duty (0.5% = £10.75) plus dealing charge usually around £12. In addition to the on board credit you receive a quarterly dividend currently $0.25 per share, which paid in sterling at the exchange rate at the time. So for 100 shares you currently get £55 to £60 per year. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjam cruisers Posted July 26, 2014 #11 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Thanks Brian your information, it was most helpful I will look into it as the we would like the extra onboard spend benefits. Thanks again for taking the time to reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HELEN HENRY Posted July 26, 2014 #12 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Hi Pat Sandra and I have been considering buying Carnival Shares for the benefits, how do you go about it. Jim Good evening Jim I will e-mail you tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HELEN HENRY Posted July 26, 2014 #13 Share Posted July 26, 2014 For your Azura transatlantic? If so maybe Carnival have got one of their documents wrong Hi there , Yes for both of the B2B 31 Oct transatlantic £150 plus a further £150 for the second cruise 14th Nov 2014 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjam cruisers Posted July 26, 2014 #14 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Hi Pat Thanks will look forward to it, have been looking for Scott at the bowling but not spotted him yet, they keep concentrating on the bowlers and not the scores. HaHa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianI Posted July 26, 2014 #15 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Thanks Brian your information, it was most helpful I will look into it as the we would like the extra onboard spend benefits. Thanks again for taking the time to reply. The other way to look at it is that if you do just one two week cruise a year, your total return including dividends will be around £205 to £210 which is almost a 10% return on your investment. I don't think you will be getting anything like that from a bank/building society savings account. Do more than one cruise and you are quids in. The risk of course is that the value of the shares could fall. Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjam cruisers Posted July 26, 2014 #16 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Hi again Brian That was our thoughts as we normally do two cruises a year, and as you say returns are pretty poor just now. Once again thanks for your help it is much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daiB Posted July 26, 2014 #17 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Hi again Brian That was our thoughts as we normally do two cruises a year, and as you say returns are pretty poor just now. Once again thanks for your help it is much appreciated. He he he we are doing 5 this year. Should we buy some. Oh I forgot we have them already. :) :) :). Happy days. Go out and buy its a no brainer. Gan Canny Dai Sent from my iPad using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjwa Posted July 27, 2014 #18 Share Posted July 27, 2014 To tjwaThanks for your contribution but I did not ask for your opinion. It's a discussion so anyone can join in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjam cruisers Posted July 27, 2014 #19 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Hi daiB I would love to cruise more but the better half is in charge of the finances and you know us Scots are not known for overspending. L.O.L. Hope you enjoy all your cruises. Jim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom10 Posted July 27, 2014 #20 Share Posted July 27, 2014 It's a discussion so anyone can join in. Yes you are right it is a discussion so anyone can join in with sensible informative answers yours was neither of these.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majortom10 Posted July 27, 2014 #21 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Hi daiBI would love to cruise more but the better half is in charge of the finances and you know us Scots are not known for overspending. L.O.L. Hope you enjoy all your cruises. Jim. Not knowing your personal circumstances but having recently lost my father he died with more money in the bank than he had for all his working life and it just seemed a waste to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjam cruisers Posted July 27, 2014 #22 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Hi Majortom10 We have a saying in Scotland " There are no pockets in a shroud", My reply to daiB was tongue in cheek, I know exactly what you mean, I was involved in a very serious Motorcycle accident a number of years ago, I received injuries which while very serious I survived with a slight limp and ongoing lower back problems but people have been killed or crippled in lesser accidents.A year later my wife had a health fright which transpired not to be a serious a first thought. We like to cruise twice a year in the Caribbean in the winter as we are far to busy during our summertime to go on holiday and now that I am officially a "Grumpy Old Man" I prefer to avoid children in case I frighten them off .L.O.L. Happy cruising to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HELEN HENRY Posted July 27, 2014 #23 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Hi Majortom10We have a saying in Scotland " There are no pockets in a shroud", My reply to daiB was tongue in cheek, I know exactly what you mean, I was involved in a very serious Motorcycle accident a number of years ago, I received injuries which while very serious I survived with a slight limp and ongoing lower back problems but people have been killed or crippled in lesser accidents.A year later my wife had a health fright which transpired not to be a serious a first thought. We like to cruise twice a year in the Caribbean in the winter as we are far to busy during our summertime to go on holiday and now that I am officially a "Grumpy Old Man" I prefer to avoid children in case I frighten them off .L.O.L. Happy cruising to you. Sanjam, sorry but I have to disagree with you on this point your are not a "Grumpy Old Man" but you are a "Very Nice Man" oh my knees are so sore. This crawling about isn't good for me at my age:D. Happy cruising to you too.:) Thought we both needed a laugh:p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sanjam cruisers Posted July 27, 2014 #24 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Hi Pat Sandra might not agree she continually tells me to stop being a grump,particularly when I'm down on my knees begging to be taken a nice cruise in the sun. Not long to your adventures I have to wait to February, look forward to hearing your opinion of Britannia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopsiB Posted July 30, 2014 #25 Share Posted July 30, 2014 (edited) Carnival Corporation & plc is pleased to extend the following benefit to our shareholders: SHAREHOLDER BENEFIT NORTH AMERICA BRANDS AUSTRALIA BRANDS BRANDS BRANDS CONTINENTAL EUROPE UNITED KINGDOM UK. EU. US Onboard credit per stateroom on sailings of 14 days or longer £150. €200. $250 Onboard credit per stateroom on sailings of 7 to 13 days £60. €. 75. $100 Onboard credit per stateroom on sailings of 6 days or less. £30. €. 40. $. 50 The benefit is applicable on sailings through July 31, 2015 aboard the brands listed below. Certain restrictions apply. Applications to receive these benefits should be made at least two weeks prior to cruise departure date. This benefit is available to shareholders holding a minimum of 100 shares of Carnival Corporation or Carnival plc. Employees, travel agents cruising at travel agent rates, tour conductors or anyone cruising on a reduced-rate or complimentary basis are excluded from this offer. This benefit is not transferable, cannot be exchanged for cash and, cannot be used for casino credits/charges and gratuities charged to your onboard account. Only one onboard credit per shareholder-occupied stateroom. Reservations must be made by February 28, 2015. Please provide by fax or by mail your name, reservation number, ship and sailing date, along with proof of ownership of Carnival Corporation or Carnival plc shares (for example, photocopy of shareholder proxy card, shares certificate, a dividend tax voucher or a current brokerage or nominee statement with your brokerage account number blacked out) to your travel agent or to the cruise line you have selected below. CONTINENTAL EUROPE BRANDS UNITED KINGDOM BRANDS P & O CRUISES (UK) CUNARD* Senior Shareholder Executive Carnival UK Carnival House 100 Harbour Parade Southampton SO15 1ST United Kingdom Tel 44 0 843 374 2245 Fax 44 0 238 065 7360 Edited July 30, 2014 by PopsiB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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