jonbgd Posted March 22, 2015 #401 Share Posted March 22, 2015 At least you can ask for it to be removed either from the receipt when signing or later at Guest Services. It is not mandatory, just like the bar auto-gratuity. You can remove the gratuity when buying a drink:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backsbanny Posted March 22, 2015 #402 Share Posted March 22, 2015 The bar auto gratuity is not compulsory as well you can remove it reduce it increase it if you like at guest services Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonyte Posted March 22, 2015 #403 Share Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) You can remove the gratuity when buying a drink:confused: Yes, just remember that the bar staff is not and has never been in the DSC pool unlike the (speciality) restaurant staff. Edited March 22, 2015 by Demonyte Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLH Arizona Posted March 22, 2015 #404 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Yes, just remember that the bar staff is not and has never been in the DSC pool unlike the (speciality) restaurant staff.If someone wants to remove it, it should be their option, just as it is someone's option not to pay the DSC or the 18% specialty restaurant gratuity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jancruz Posted March 22, 2015 #405 Share Posted March 22, 2015 If someone wants to remove it, it should be their option, just as it is someone's option not to pay the DSC or the 18% specialty restaurant gratuity. I do not believe you can remove it anymore not off the bar tab nor the specialty dining,, Jancruz1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backsbanny Posted March 22, 2015 #406 Share Posted March 22, 2015 You can remove anything that its a gratuity anywhere on any cruise line..its against the law if they refuse the removal of gratuity...gratuity is not fare its not price its not service fee its just what it says..so you can do whatever you want with it you can increase it reduce it or remove it completely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonyte Posted March 22, 2015 #407 Share Posted March 22, 2015 If someone wants to remove it, it should be their option, just as it is someone's option not to pay the DSC or the 18% specialty restaurant gratuity. Did I say something otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jancruz Posted March 22, 2015 #408 Share Posted March 22, 2015 You can remove anything that its a gratuity anywhere on any cruise line..its against the law if they refuse the removal of gratuity...gratuity is not fare its not price its not service fee its just what it says..so you can do whatever you want with it you can increase it reduce it or remove it completely Just for my edification what law is it against? I never heard of that... Jancruz1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backsbanny Posted March 22, 2015 #409 Share Posted March 22, 2015 If a company any company refuses to remove a gratuity for a sale they make you can sue them for stealing you.thats what i mean...if you say i will pay a double tip or i dont want to pay a tip they must comply with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jancruz Posted March 22, 2015 #410 Share Posted March 22, 2015 If a company any company refuses to remove a gratuity for a sale they make you can sue them for stealing you.thats what i mean...if you say i will pay a double tip or i dont want to pay a tip they must comply with this Im sorry, I have never heard of that before..do you know anyone that has done that? just curious..as I have cruised for 40 years and never heard of any law like that..is it a US law or International law? Jancruz1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backsbanny Posted March 22, 2015 #411 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Jancruz you must understand the difference between a price tag and gratuity...gratuity is sth you only give if you want to as a customer..they can not add gratuity on anything and demand you to pay it..so wherever you go to a restaurant bar coffee place cruise etc if you dont want to tip you can remove the tip and nobody can make you pay it..if they charge your credit card even when you told them that you dont want to include the tip then you can sue them.its like this all over the wirld..in every place you go you are obliged to pay the price of the food drink with tax inclusions..if gratuities are involved you can add more reduce remove do whatever you like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare electro Posted March 22, 2015 #412 Share Posted March 22, 2015 The one think that I really don't like is that it's an automatic tip on drinks of 18%. We haven't been alcohol drinkers for many years, for reasons. But, if I were to order a drink, I would think giving $1 is what I would think was acceptable. I would pry just hand over a $1 bill and think I was just fine with that. But I can see now I would be way off with that! I agree with you on the 18% for bartenders. Especially when it comes to wine. It doesn't take any more work to open a $60 bottle of wine than a $30 bottle of wine so why should I be expected to tip double on the more expensive wine. Lois Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dna529 Posted March 22, 2015 #413 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Jancruz you must understand the difference between a price tag and gratuity...gratuity is sth you only give if you want to as a customer..they can not add gratuity on anything and demand you to pay it..so wherever you go to a restaurant bar coffee place cruise etc if you dont want to tip you can remove the tip and nobody can make you pay it..if they charge your credit card even when you told them that you dont want to include the tip then you can sue them.its like this all over the wirld..in every place you go you are obliged to pay the price of the food drink with tax inclusions..if gratuities are involved you can add more reduce remove do whatever you like Good point. Gratuity is not the cost of the item or service. It can be removed. After all, it is for our "convenience".:) Sent from my SCH-I535 using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jancruz Posted March 22, 2015 #414 Share Posted March 22, 2015 Jancruz you must understand the difference between a price tag and gratuity...gratuity is sth you only give if you want to as a customer..they can not add gratuity on anything and demand you to pay it..so wherever you go to a restaurant bar coffee place cruise etc if you dont want to tip you can remove the tip and nobody can make you pay it..if they charge your credit card even when you told them that you dont want to include the tip then you can sue them.its like this all over the wirld..in every place you go you are obliged to pay the price of the food drink with tax inclusions..if gratuities are involved you can add more reduce remove do whatever you like Thanks for the clarification..I honestly did not know this..I wonder what will happen if people start doing this.. Jancruz1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backsbanny Posted March 22, 2015 #415 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I always paid my dsc for all of my cruises.for my next cruise on ncl i have already prepaid it..but whatever specialty restaurant i will go i will make sure to remove the tip of 18% because for me its a double tip..all restaurant staff are included on the dsc..and for the first time of my history cruising with ncl and because i got so pissed off with these changes made for our convenience i will even reduce the tip on bar prices if i dont get a nice service...last cruise sometimes there was nobody to serve you a drink on the pool,if i need to get to the bar to get my drink i am not going to pay 18% just for the barman to use the opener on a beer!!!on an other hand if the barman makes me a real nice cocktail i will make sure to increase this tip... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spidybabe Posted March 22, 2015 #416 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I agree with you on the 18% for bartenders. Especially when it comes to wine.It doesn't take any more work to open a $60 bottle of wine than a $30 bottle of wine so why should I be expected to tip double on the more expensive wine. Lois Very, very good point ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiffygirl Posted March 22, 2015 #417 Share Posted March 22, 2015 (edited) opps posted to wrong group. i agree. 18% double dipping !:) Edited March 22, 2015 by tiffygirl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiserninja1 Posted March 22, 2015 #418 Share Posted March 22, 2015 So if I got the free UDP promo , I now how to pay 18% each time we book a specialty restaurant ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rochelle_s Posted March 22, 2015 #419 Share Posted March 22, 2015 So if I got the free UDP promo , I now how to pay 18% each time we book a specialty restaurant ? No. Gratuity is included with the promotional UDP and UBP packages. Rochelle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLH Arizona Posted March 22, 2015 #420 Share Posted March 22, 2015 So if I got the free UDP promo , I now how to pay 18% each time we book a specialty restaurant ?No you don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbisson Posted March 22, 2015 #421 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I'm getting the feeling that in the past, many didn't tip in the spec rooms Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maywell Posted March 22, 2015 #422 Share Posted March 22, 2015 I'm getting the feeling that in the past, many didn't tip in the spec rooms For specialty dining, you already paid via the DSC with the cover charge on top - so if you want to tip more to that particular waiter / waitress, you could pay in cash or add more tip in the additional tip line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NLH Arizona Posted March 23, 2015 #423 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) I'm getting the feeling that in the past, many didn't tip in the spec rooms I think you hit the nail on the head! And that is the same reason an automatic gratuity was implemented to beverage service and the DSC. It was real easy in the olden days for folks not to give any gratuity and that is why some are added automatically. Edited March 23, 2015 by NLH Arizona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jancruz Posted March 23, 2015 #424 Share Posted March 23, 2015 I always paid my dsc for all of my cruises.for my next cruise on ncl i have already prepaid it..but whatever specialty restaurant i will go i will make sure to remove the tip of 18% because for me its a double tip..all restaurant staff are included on the dsc..and for the first time of my history cruising with ncl and because i got so pissed off with these changes made for our convenience i will even reduce the tip on bar prices if i dont get a nice service...last cruise sometimes there was nobody to serve you a drink on the pool,if i need to get to the bar to get my drink i am not going to pay 18% just for the barman to use the opener on a beer!!!on an other hand if the barman makes me a real nice cocktail i will make sure to increase this tip... You will not be able to take off the 18% Jancruz1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jancruz Posted March 23, 2015 #425 Share Posted March 23, 2015 (edited) Good point. Gratuity is not the cost of the item or service. It can be removed. After all, it is for our "convenience".:) Sent from my SCH-I535 using Forums mobile app Sorry, I do not believe you are going to be able to remove the 18% if you were not part of the complimentary UDP promo.. Jancruz1 Edited March 23, 2015 by Jancruz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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