300 Elliott to become 450 Third in December 2016

[bishop84]

Pure speculation, but the HAL/Princess grouping might end up like the Cunard/Princess grouping. Each would maintain their own shipboard identity, but there would be more sharing between them:

- Officers, staff, and entertainers sometimes hopping back and forth between HAL / Princess from contract to contract.

- More shared docking contracts, like the two lines did with Crown Bay in St. Thomas.

- Consolidating / grouping contracts with food and other suppliers in home ports (especially, Vancouver, Seattle, Port Everglades, UK ports).

- Perhaps sharing some crew recruitment and training facilities (such as in Indonesia and the Philippines), I don't know if Princess has similar facilities in other countries.

- Standardization of certain shipboard activities such as muster drills, crew training, repeat customer reward gifts and activities.

- Coordination of cruise itineraries to compliment each other and not compete.

- Consolidation of contracts for on-board vendors such as photographers, shops, spa, etc.

 

This is of course pure speculation, and perhaps a hope that much of the two brands will remain distinct. Certainly the ships of each line would not fit all that well into the other brand without a fair amount of rework. Princess and Cunard have existed for years as a corporate pair, but with different marketing, style, and even ship hull coloration.

 

I am sure that some of the above has or will come true in the near future. Especially as Carnival Corp & PLC have publicly reported that they intend to use common suppliers to make efficiency savings between the brands but without merging them. IIRC with the exception of North American marketing Cunard is run by Carnival UK and is not partnered with Princess. Hence, unlike Princess, it is not included in the Holland America Group.

[clueless2]

I am sure that some of the above has or will come true in the near future. Especially as Carnival Corp & PLC have publicly reported that they intend to use common suppliers to make efficiency savings between the brands but without merging them. IIRC with the exception of North American marketing Cunard is run by Carnival UK and is not partnered with Princess. Hence, unlike Princess, it is not included in the Holland America Group.

 

From the HA website:

 

Holland America Group operates 39 cruise ships, with more than 36,000 employees worldwide delivering 25 million passenger cruise days annually.

Princess Cruises is the third-largest cruise line in the world, carrying approximately 1.4 million guests each year to top destinations around the globe on 18 premium vessels. A new 3,560 passenger Royal-class ship is on order for delivery in spring, 2017.

Holland America Line operates a fleet of 15 premium vessels carrying approximately 850,000 guests on more than 500 cruises annually to all seven continents. A new 2,650-passenger Pinnacle-class ship is under construction and scheduled for delivery April, 2016. A second Pinnacle-class ship is on order and will deliver November, 2018.

Holland America-Princess Land Operations & Customer Service operates hotels, rail services, motor coach transportation, shore services and tour operations in Alaska and the Yukon for guests from Holland America Line and Princess Cruises on land tours.

Seabourn’s three intimate, all-suite luxury vessels carry 458 guests and sail 94 cruises annually to the world’s most desirable destinations. Two new 600-passenger ships are on order with deliveries scheduled for November, 2016 and spring, 2018.

P&O Cruises Australia has three ships sailing from Sydney and Brisbane, Australia, and Auckland, New Zealand, to destinations across the Australasia region.

Edited May 11, 2015 by clueless2

[bishop84]

From the HA website:

 

Holland America Group operates 39 cruise ships, with more than 36,000 employees worldwide delivering 25 million passenger cruise days annually.

Princess Cruises is the third-largest cruise line in the world, carrying approximately 1.4 million guests each year to top destinations around the globe on 18 premium vessels. A new 3,560 passenger Royal-class ship is on order for delivery in spring, 2017.

Holland America Line operates a fleet of 15 premium vessels carrying approximately 850,000 guests on more than 500 cruises annually to all seven continents. A new 2,650-passenger Pinnacle-class ship is under construction and scheduled for delivery April, 2016. A second Pinnacle-class ship is on order and will deliver November, 2018.

Holland America-Princess Land Operations & Customer Service operates hotels, rail services, motor coach transportation, shore services and tour operations in Alaska and the Yukon for guests from Holland America Line and Princess Cruises on land tours.

Seabourn’s three intimate, all-suite luxury vessels carry 458 guests and sail 94 cruises annually to the world’s most desirable destinations. Two new 600-passenger ships are on order with deliveries scheduled for November, 2016 and spring, 2018.

P&O Cruises Australia has three ships sailing from Sydney and Brisbane, Australia, and Auckland, New Zealand, to destinations across the Australasia region.

 

Looks like I remembered correctly!

[InTheWASide]

dft?

 

Oh gotcha. Yeah believe I got a few calls from there from time to time