BaseballMomof4 Posted April 22, 2016 #376 Share Posted April 22, 2016 THIS. Great minds, Amy :cool: I just said something on our roll call to the same effect. If they indeed only add a port on the day we were supposed to call on Izmir than it is still a win/win for all as those who wanted a sea day can treat it as such and those who want off the boat can do so. If they do any other maneuvering of ports, I will NOT be so happy. Totally agree. With a party of 4, I have hundreds spent on tickets - Vatican, hydrofoil, etc. That would be an absolute disaster for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnyval Posted April 22, 2016 #377 Share Posted April 22, 2016 I doubt Carnival would shuffle ports around - it would be a disaster for them, also. First the port would have to be available on a different day and all of the shore excursions would have to change for them, too. They could use one of the other sea days for a new port, also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zionstorm Posted April 22, 2016 #378 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Wow, very interesting! So, just to be clear, he responded saying that they are REPLACING the cancelled port on the first voyages? Including May and June? Honestly, unexpected turn of events. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zionstorm Posted April 22, 2016 #379 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Totally agree. With a party of 4, I have hundreds spent on tickets - Vatican, hydrofoil, etc. That would be an absolute disaster for me. I feel many are the same way. I doubt port days will be shuffled but potentially Sea Days swapped. Like someone else mentioned. Although, just replacing the port on the day Izmir was scheduled seems the most obvious. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zionstorm Posted April 22, 2016 #380 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Here is actual post, may keep an eye on it to see if he replies. Hopefully we get clarity soon. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnyval Posted April 22, 2016 #381 Share Posted April 22, 2016 He indicated later that currently the May 14th cruise won't have a replacement port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zionstorm Posted April 22, 2016 #382 Share Posted April 22, 2016 He indicated later that currently the May 14th cruise won't have a replacement port. Where did you see that? The May cruises could be too soon, but possibly the June cruises will be replaced? Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnyval Posted April 22, 2016 #383 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Where did you see that? The May cruises could be too soon, but possibly the June cruises will be replaced? Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app John Heald FB page. Someone later specifically asked about the May 14 cruise. I think it depends on what the new port is. Some cruise itineraries might not be close enough to add. If the new port is in Albania or Montenegro and a cruise doesn't already have Dubrovnik as a port, it might not be possible. Of course, I'm just speculating (but not about the May 14 cruise). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3redheads Posted April 22, 2016 #384 Share Posted April 22, 2016 I sure hope they don't change the ports/days. He did mention: "...the NEW itinerant" Not sure if that means things will be shuffled around or there will be a replacement port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zionstorm Posted April 22, 2016 #385 Share Posted April 22, 2016 John Heald FB page. Someone later specifically asked about the May 14 cruise. I think it depends on what the new port is. Some cruise itineraries might not be close enough to add. If the new port is in Albania or Montenegro and a cruise doesn't already have Dubrovnik as a port, it might not be possible. Of course, I'm just speculating (but not about the May 14 cruise). I can not even find the original post now. I did see another with someone asking about May but no response. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zacnlinc Posted April 22, 2016 #386 Share Posted April 22, 2016 John Heald FB page. Someone later specifically asked about the May 14 cruise. I think it depends on what the new port is. Some cruise itineraries might not be close enough to add. If the new port is in Albania or Montenegro and a cruise doesn't already have Dubrovnik as a port, it might not be possible. Of course, I'm just speculating (but not about the May 14 cruise). On the Maiden voyage here! We leave Trieste and have a sea day the next day. This late in the game, I doubt we'd get the new itinerary. But if Albania or Montenegro were added in lieu of that day 2 being a sea day, that would be fine. We get our non-EU stop taken care of to hush the VAT issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zionstorm Posted April 22, 2016 #387 Share Posted April 22, 2016 On the Maiden voyage here! We leave Trieste and have a sea day the next day. This late in the game, I doubt we'd get the new itinerary. But if Albania or Montenegro were added in lieu of that day 2 being a sea day, that would be fine. We get our non-EU stop taken care of to hush the VAT issue. It's buried in 100s of comment on the site that will not be named, but someone mentioned May cruises would not be on the new itinerary. Although, that is in no way a confirmation and I can't find the comment now although I for sure read that. He said today or tomorrow. So maybe we will know something soon. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvtocruise01 Posted April 22, 2016 #388 Share Posted April 22, 2016 (edited) It's buried in 100s of comment on the site that will not be named, but someone mentioned May cruises would not be on the new itinerary. Although, that is in no way a confirmation and I can't find the comment now although I for sure read that. He said today or tomorrow. So maybe we will know something soon. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Just got an official email on the inaugural we're adding Kotor, Montenego on May 4 from 7-4 shifting Athens to May 5 from 7-9 Edited April 22, 2016 by Iluvtocruise01 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zionstorm Posted April 22, 2016 #389 Share Posted April 22, 2016 (edited) Just an official email on the inaugural we're adding Kotor, Montenego on May 4 from 7-4 shifting Athens to May 5 from 7-9 Awesome! Very good to hear! That should take care of VAT issue as well, correct? Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Edited April 22, 2016 by Zionstorm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iluvtocruise01 Posted April 22, 2016 #390 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Awesome! Very good to hear! That should take care of VAT issue as well, correct? Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app It's not an EU country (as far as I can tell) so I would assume so! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare trippingpara Posted April 23, 2016 #391 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Yep, just got the email. Kotor it is! So excited! Have to do some juggling around of things like tour in Athens and couples' spa that we had booked once Izmir was cancelled. But hey, I'll take this itinerary change each and every time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rexdillinger Posted April 23, 2016 #392 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Athens is now moved to the 6th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare trippingpara Posted April 23, 2016 #393 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Looks like the ms Eurodam will also be in port in Kotor that day. 1,850 passengers on the Eurodam plus 4,000 on Vista is going to make for one super busy and crowded day in that little port! I'm surprised they were able to swing it in Kotor. I had figured that it would have been in Albania so they wouldn't have had to make any switch to the itinerary. Still happy about it though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormy_weatherman Posted April 23, 2016 #394 Share Posted April 23, 2016 So is the addition of a port ONLY for the inaugural? Fingers crossed for our June sailing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zionstorm Posted April 23, 2016 #395 Share Posted April 23, 2016 So is the addition of a port ONLY for the inaugural? Fingers crossed for our June sailing. Just what was announced so far. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormy_weatherman Posted April 23, 2016 #396 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Just what was announced so far. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Yes, I understand that. I'm just confused by Heald's comment since the lady who asked the question is on the inaugural. I'm curious if this will be extended to other sailings affected by the Izmir drop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zionstorm Posted April 23, 2016 #397 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Yes, I understand that. I'm just confused by Heald's comment since the lady who asked the question is on the inaugural. I'm curious if this will be extended to other sailings affected by the Izmir drop. Oh, I have no idea. Seems like if they could make a change to the May 1st sailing, especially this close to sail date. They definitely have some time to pull strings on the others. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeenut Posted April 23, 2016 #398 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Oh, I have no idea. Seems like if they could make a change to the May 1st sailing, especially this close to sail date. They definitely have some time to pull strings on the others. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app The problem is this: In order to avoid the VAT tax, the ship has to find a port in a non-EU country. And the only possible non-EU countries (other than Turkey) are in the Adriatic Sea. The May 1 inaugural voyage is the only trip that includes the Adriatic Sea. All of the other Vista sailings do not go north of Malta or Crete. In other words: The non-EU Ports in Montenegro and Albania are too far north to be included on any of the other 17 Mediterranean itineraries. The best that could be done for the other Vista sailings is to substitute a stop at another Greek Island (Mykonos, Santorini, Crete or Malta). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zionstorm Posted April 23, 2016 #399 Share Posted April 23, 2016 The problem is this: In order to avoid the VAT tax, the ship has to find a port in a non-EU country. And the only possible non-EU countries (other than Turkey) are in the Adriatic Sea. The May 1 inaugural voyage is the only trip that includes the Adriatic Sea. All of the other Vista sailings do not go north of Malta or Crete. In other words: The non-EU Ports in Montenegro and Albania are too far north to be included on any of the other 17 Mediterranean itineraries. The best that could be done for the other Vista sailings is to substitute a stop at another Greek Island (Mykonos, Santorini, Crete or Malta). Agreed, and pretty much what I said somewhere else as well. Sent from my iPhone using Forums mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novakat93 Posted April 23, 2016 #400 Share Posted April 23, 2016 The problem is this: In order to avoid the VAT tax, the ship has to find a port in a non-EU country. And the only possible non-EU countries (other than Turkey) are in the Adriatic Sea. The May 1 inaugural voyage is the only trip that includes the Adriatic Sea. All of the other Vista sailings do not go north of Malta or Crete. In other words: The non-EU Ports in Montenegro and Albania are too far north to be included on any of the other 17 Mediterranean itineraries. The best that could be done for the other Vista sailings is to substitute a stop at another Greek Island (Mykonos, Santorini, Crete or Malta). Actually, if you map it out, we could leave Athens, go to Rhodes, have a day at sea, go to Montenegro, then Sicily. That would work logistically. I'm hoping that they do this. I'm on the May 24th and keeping fingers crossed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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