whales43 Posted April 18, 2010 #3126 Share Posted April 18, 2010 I believe the silk place was called the Tian Kou Silk Company. If you're just there for the cruise time I'm not sure you'll have time to get there. Viking brings you to a silk embroidery place but your time is really spoken for. They are 19 layers of silk and the price was ridiculously low. In Shanghai it was in the upper 50s low 60s during the day but we needed winter coats at night. The rest of the country was warmer and a fleece was fine. The AC on the ship was not working so it was very warm on the ship and we wore short sleeves. I'd say outside it was mostly low 60s. In Beijing it was cold. We all needed winter coats, hats, scarves and gloves. It is much colder and windier there. We had a sunny day or two but then the last 2 days were very foggy - or was it smoggy? Definitely travel light. It's great touring weather because it's not hot now. Sorry, but July will be sooo hot. Go naked! Between the sun, heat and the crowds, you'll be warm in July. So this is a good time to go. Doing Shanghai first is a great thing because it's much less strenuous and you can work through your jet lag easier. Beijing we walked about 4-6 miles a day and the Great Wall was freezing winter cold. There was ice and some snow there. It's pretty treacherous and very few in the group made it up a good distance. But just being there and on it was amazing. You'll have a great time. We had Shanshan as a guide and she was terrific. Anything else you want to know? happy to respond! We leave on Imperial Jewels (Shanghai to Beijing direction) in 5 days, so was very excited to read your post. Do you know the name of the silk factory? I'd love to get a silk duvet. We are only there for the tour, so don't know if we'll have time to venture out to the factory on our own. Also, how warm was it on the cruise? We've been watching the weather, but it's always great to hear first hand. Also, there's been a fair amount of rain in the forecasts we've been watching ... does it tend to be a hard rain? (I'm still trying to nail down what clothes to bring). Thank you and so glad to hear that you had a wonderful time!:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whales43 Posted April 18, 2010 #3127 Share Posted April 18, 2010 Oh I forgot - the rain. I think it's often rainy there. The ship will provide ponchos but if you just even bring your own poncho you'll be fine. It wasn't a hard rain and we didn't use our umbrellas but we did need rain gear. Viking is incredibly well respected in china and we were all treated as VIPs everywhere we went. It was impressive. We leave on Imperial Jewels (Shanghai to Beijing direction) in 5 days, so was very excited to read your post. Do you know the name of the silk factory? I'd love to get a silk duvet. We are only there for the tour, so don't know if we'll have time to venture out to the factory on our own. Also, how warm was it on the cruise? We've been watching the weather, but it's always great to hear first hand. Also, there's been a fair amount of rain in the forecasts we've been watching ... does it tend to be a hard rain? (I'm still trying to nail down what clothes to bring). Thank you and so glad to hear that you had a wonderful time!:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINEY10 Posted April 18, 2010 #3128 Share Posted April 18, 2010 Tian Kou Silk Company is in Shanghai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whales43 Posted April 18, 2010 #3129 Share Posted April 18, 2010 Yes it is in Shanghai. You get to see the silk worms and how they do the whole process. It's a great take. quote=PINEY10;24074335]Tian Kou Silk Company is in Shanghai? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted April 19, 2010 #3130 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Tian Kou Silk Company is in Shanghai? This link may help. Shanghai Tian Hou Silk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whales43 Posted April 19, 2010 #3131 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Thanks Dale! This link may help. Shanghai Tian Hou Silk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whales43 Posted April 19, 2010 #3132 Share Posted April 19, 2010 And everyone, BRING TOILET PAPER. Lots and lots of toilet paper. This is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted April 19, 2010 #3133 Share Posted April 19, 2010 And everyone, BRING TOILET PAPER. Lots and lots of toilet paper. This is important. Not available from the hotels and on the ship? Why bring from home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted April 19, 2010 #3134 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Many many women on the ship had jackets made. Most were thrilled, some were not. I had a silk poncho made and they copied one I already had and did a nice job. They worked day and night. Any idea on the pricing for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallygator Posted April 19, 2010 #3135 Share Posted April 19, 2010 :) OK six days to go for China’s Cultural Delights and Hong Kong what are the must sees, must do’s. No opera’s for us. Food for thought please and I do love noddels.:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReturnCruiser Posted April 19, 2010 #3136 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Whales43 - thanks for all the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Peregrina651 Posted April 19, 2010 #3137 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Not available from the hotels and on the ship? Why bring from home? Could it be that even on the ship and in the hotels we aren't talking Charmin'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PINEY10 Posted April 19, 2010 #3138 Share Posted April 19, 2010 I have seen many different opinions on the Peking Duck dinner and the Tang dynasty show--any general consensus whether it is worth it or not? Shanghai is my shopping mecca and don't want to lose out on that--have many tips from here and from people who have gone. We first go to Shanghai. In any event, thumbs up or down on two dinners/shows? I do love Peking Duck but if it is nothing like what we get here in the US I am not sure it is worth it. Most have said the acrobat show in Shanghai was worth it. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caribill Posted April 19, 2010 #3139 Share Posted April 19, 2010 What type of cost is associated with these two dinners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Peregrina651 Posted April 19, 2010 #3140 Share Posted April 19, 2010 I do love Peking Duck but if it is nothing like what we get here in the US I am not sure it is worth it. Yes, but different isn't always a bad thing. If you like duck, then maybe it is worth trying in the country that is know for the dish--and eating it the way that it is meant to be served and not in the Americanized version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Peregrina651 Posted April 19, 2010 #3141 Share Posted April 19, 2010 What type of cost is associated with these two dinners? The Xian dinner is 490RMB and the Duck/Opera is 390RMB. It will be billed to us as RMB and the equivalent in dollars will depend on the exchange rate in effect the day it is converted to $$, which is not necessarily the day it is posted to our accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cathys Cruising Posted April 19, 2010 #3142 Share Posted April 19, 2010 The Xian dinner is 490RMB and the Duck/Opera is 390RMB. It will be billed to us as RMB and the equivalent in dollars will depend on the exchange rate in effect the day it is converted to $$, which is not necessarily the day it is posted to our accounts. So the dinner & opera are on our itinerary but it is optional and there is an additional cost to do them? If you choose not to participate you just have free time to do what you wish and dinner would be on your own those nights or would there be dinner provided as part of our tour package at the hotel? Just needing clarification. Thanks. Cathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no fuss travel Posted April 19, 2010 #3143 Share Posted April 19, 2010 Don't miss the Xi'an dinner. That is an incredible show. If you see that before you go to Beijing, you will be disappointed as the Beijing show is not as good as the Xi'an show. The Beijing duck was not worth the night, I think if I had to do it again, I would have gone shopping instead. The other sites were well worth the visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale Posted April 19, 2010 #3144 Share Posted April 19, 2010 What type of cost is associated with these two dinners? The Xian dinner is 490RMB and the Duck/Opera is 390RMB. It will be billed to us as RMB and the equivalent in dollars will depend on the exchange rate in effect the day it is converted to $$, which is not necessarily the day it is posted to our accounts. This may help with currency conversion. Universal Currency Converter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whales43 Posted April 19, 2010 #3145 Share Posted April 19, 2010 You can take a roll from the hotel. I just chose to get some small roles from Magellan or Travelsmith or somewhere like that and they were wasy to carry. But however you do it, just bring it with you at all times. Not available from the hotels and on the ship? Why bring from home? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whales43 Posted April 19, 2010 #3146 Share Posted April 19, 2010 If you divide the price by 7, you'll get the RMB price. This may help with currency conversion.Universal Currency Converter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Peregrina651 Posted April 19, 2010 #3147 Share Posted April 19, 2010 So the dinner & opera are on our itinerary but it is optional and there is an additional cost to do them? If you choose not to participate you just have free time to do what you wish and dinner would be on your own those nights or would there be dinner provided as part of our tour package at the hotel? Just needing clarification. Thanks. Cathy Right' date=' those two items are optional and cost extra. Since the itinerary says that dinner is provided on both of those nights, I am going to presume that there is a plan in place for those who don't go to the optional shows.[/color'] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whales43 Posted April 20, 2010 #3148 Share Posted April 20, 2010 I agree with this. The Xian show is wonderful. And yes, if you don't do these shows, dinner at the hotel is included in your tour. If you want to go out on your own, it's on you. Viking thinks of everything! Don't miss the Xi'an dinner. That is an incredible show. If you see that before you go to Beijing, you will be disappointed as the Beijing show is not as good as the Xi'an show. The Beijing duck was not worth the night, I think if I had to do it again, I would have gone shopping instead. The other sites were well worth the visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bxny Posted April 21, 2010 #3149 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Will our big pieces of luggage travel with us from Beijing to Xian and then onto the boat? Will we have to pack a small bag for internal China travel? leaving on Sunday and very excited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whales43 Posted April 21, 2010 #3150 Share Posted April 21, 2010 Your big pieces will be taken by Viking staff and meet you in Xian. Definitely pack a small bag for the overnight in Xian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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