Beachammo Posted December 3, 2016 #26 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Thanks for all the work.....I look forward to seeing more analysis. An average per day per ship class would be quite interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted December 3, 2016 #27 Share Posted December 3, 2016 An average per day per ship class would be quite interesting. The main price tracking site has a chart like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tugboat Posted December 3, 2016 #28 Share Posted December 3, 2016 I don't think it has anything to do with pricing. It's not because of pricing but in spite of pricing, the ships sale full. So the sales cc posters whine about all the time have no bearing on the ships sailing full at all. your thoughts on the capacity are spot on. The better pricing that I have found lately is after final payment.😎🌴 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGiantsfan11 Posted December 3, 2016 #29 Share Posted December 3, 2016 I booked the Freedom leaving out of Barcelona on Black Friday thru a TA instead of Royal the difference in price for the same cabin for two people was $623 dollars. Plus they gave me an additional $125 on board ship credit and dinner for two at their speciality restaurant that Royal was not giving. Other places were so much better then booking directly thru Royal for Black Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainTito Posted December 3, 2016 Author #30 Share Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) The better pricing that I have found lately is after final payment. Yes - I'm interested in this question, too. On average, am I better off booking early and watching for price drops, or booking after final payment? I wonder if this can be broken down too...book a summer Oasis Class cruise early, but Vision Class late. I booked the Freedom leaving out of Barcelona on Black Friday thru a TA instead of Royal the difference in price for the same cabin for two people was $623 dollars. Plus they gave me an additional $125 on board ship credit and dinner for two at their speciality restaurant that Royal was not giving. Other places were so much better then booking directly thru Royal for Black Friday. I'm planning to remain pretty willfully ignorant of TA's for these analyses. There are absolutely benefits to using one, but ultimately you're either booking into a group at a price which was once available to everyone (very hit or miss to find this), or you're getting a rebate which is tied directly to the fare that comes from Royal. Because of this, I think any analysis I do based on Royal's direct pricing will also apply to the pricing from TAs. Edited December 3, 2016 by CaptainTito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted December 3, 2016 #31 Share Posted December 3, 2016 Yes - I'm interested in this question, too. On average, am I better off booking early and watching for price drops, or booking after final payment?.... Unfortunately, there is no "on average". Pricing is unpredictable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookster99 Posted December 3, 2016 #32 Share Posted December 3, 2016 This is awesome! I am hoping you might be able to preview new sales while they are still available based on your gathered data -- As we wind into the WAVE months, I'll be very interested to see what your opinions are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted December 3, 2016 #33 Share Posted December 3, 2016 What the OP is trying to do in essence is reverse engineer RCI's pricing model - that is probably just as well guarded as the recipe for Coke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryjaden Posted December 3, 2016 #34 Share Posted December 3, 2016 I applaud the OP's efforts to do this. I will be following along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickyshocker Posted December 3, 2016 #35 Share Posted December 3, 2016 This is awesome! I am hoping you might be able to preview new sales while they are still available based on your gathered data -- As we wind into the WAVE months, I'll be very interested to see what your opinions are... Honest question, are wave months really the best time to book? I was thinking if maybe should hold off. Tnx Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seaofwonder Posted December 3, 2016 #36 Share Posted December 3, 2016 It's like trying to analyze airfares. The algorithms that airlines and cruise companies use is complex and based on capacity, number already sold, and what they predict they will sell based on historical sales. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsail Posted December 3, 2016 #37 Share Posted December 3, 2016 (edited) The better pricing that I have found lately is after final payment.���� I would not dispute that at all, but, you failed to fill in the blanks. You did not define better pricing. With 80,000 cruising every week one could find 80,000 better prices, stretched out from 2 years out till the ship sails. So, what is a better price, it's an individual thing based on individual needs, if your needs fall inside of FP then that's a good price for you So who has a computer program to fit individual needs, post 33 Edited December 3, 2016 by setsail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted December 4, 2016 #38 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Honest question, are wave months really the best time to book? I was thinking if maybe should hold off. Tnx As long as you can get price drops, why not book now, and watch for price drops. What to you gain by holding off? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickyshocker Posted December 4, 2016 #39 Share Posted December 4, 2016 As long as you can get price drops, why not book now, and watch for price drops. What to you gain by holding off? There's this sailing in Feb that is probably way past it's final payment date that im interested in. I only have one shot. Sent from my iPhone using Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarea Posted December 4, 2016 #40 Share Posted December 4, 2016 There's this sailing in Feb that is probably way past it's final payment date that im interested in. I only have one shot. Makes sense. If you are committed to going, you could always book the minumum category you could live with, and then move up if the price drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted December 4, 2016 #41 Share Posted December 4, 2016 There's this sailing in Feb that is probably way past it's final payment date that im interested in. I only have one shot. Go see the inventory left on RCI's UK site - that is the main indicator of future prices.;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkcreek Posted December 4, 2016 #42 Share Posted December 4, 2016 They are no websites that list ALL available cabins. The best one that I have found and is most often recommended here is Royal's UK site that lists 50 cabins per category. I have found it to show more cabins that the sites with the blinking lights which I have found to show 35 cabins. At the other extreme is Royals US site that only shows 15 per category. Thanks. I guess the one I use ( CC rules, I cant give ID) is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biker19 Posted December 4, 2016 #43 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Thanks. I guess the one I use ( CC rules, I cant give ID) is wrong. Not wrong, just incomplete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorman23 Posted December 4, 2016 #44 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Want to add more confusion, during the cyber Monday sale I was able to book a fare with a group price from a travel agency and saved money over the sale prices and additional obc. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
setsail Posted December 4, 2016 #45 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Want to add more confusion, during the cyber Monday sale I was able to book a fare with a group price from a travel agency and saved money over the sale prices and additional obc. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Why is this confusing, it's done all the time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorman23 Posted December 4, 2016 #46 Share Posted December 4, 2016 Why is this confusing, it's done all the time? I know...... Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grod19 Posted December 5, 2016 #47 Share Posted December 5, 2016 The headache with your first analysis is you don't have a baseline data set. If you had the numbers prior to the sale it would have been a much better comparison. The headache is you don't know what Royal decided to do come Monday night when they crunched their data. Maybe they fell short of expected sales so they extended the sale, maybe they saw a very large number of new booking and thus kept the sale going. Without knowing for a fact that Tuesday's prices were expected to roll back to pre Thanksgiving prices it is hard to determine if the sale was beneficial or not. I do like the idea of charting and looking for patterns in the pricing so keep it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRUISEFAN0001 Posted December 5, 2016 #48 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Why is this confusing, it's done all the time? Agree. Travel agencies, especially larger ones, have group booking rates. If you happen to want to book on one of those cruises...the prices anytime/anywhere else are usually tough to beat (even with those "super-sales"). Our Harmony cruise was booked at a rate that hasn't even come close to being duplicated for any sale since we got it originally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornswoggler Posted December 5, 2016 #49 Share Posted December 5, 2016 Thanks for sharing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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