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Actually' date=' we just got back from skiing. Adult lift tickets (12 and older) were 52 dollars, under 12 was 29 dollars. I did the same thing that most would do...had the 12 yo's say they were 11.

I saved 46 dollars !!!

You would never do such a thing, right?

Anyway, enough bickering...have a safe holiday[/quote']

 

 

Sure, I don't know many that wouldn't do that!! That is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from FORGING a CERTIFIED BIRTH CERTIFICATE! Which is what you would have to do in order to accomplish this! You are going to book your child as a 12 year old, in order to do that, you have to also ALTER her/his birth certificate... I do believe fake ID's are still illegal... quite a bit different from bumping her up at the ski lodge :rolleyes:

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Actually' date=' we just got back from skiing. Adult lift tickets (12 and older) were 52 dollars, under 12 was 29 dollars. I did the same thing that most would do...had the 12 yo's say they were 11.

I saved 46 dollars !!!

You would never do such a thing, right?

Anyway, enough bickering...have a safe holiday[/quote']

 

So I guess if someone lies and steals money from you, you will not care.

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Chris: I am surprised to see you getting caught up with this relativly new poster.

DOnt ya remember sailing with people that paid a great deal for this vacation and who cares about the rules.. they dont apply to them.

 

Have a great holiday,

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again, lying about the ages of your children will get you absolutely nowhere as Camp Carnival get that special sheet of EVERY childs' REAL birthdate (that the ship takes from the mandatory birth cert/passport) SO, unless you're going to commit a felony and get a fake birth certificate :) lying about the ages just plain will not work, as EVERY form CC gets filled out by the parent is double checked with our master list. So, the only thing lying will accomplish is ticking off your counsellors :) not something you want to do to someone you want a favour from :)

 

I have seen the master list be wrong though :) I have 2 boys, age 5 and age 4. They had them down as age 4 and age 6 on the master list. My 5 year olds DOB was a year off, on their roster. It was not noticed til we dropped them at CC on day 3 and they tried to seperate them into different age groups. Hubby went to the cabin and came back with their birth certificates and their passports and it was immediately rectified. No big deal to us. Now, next cruise, they will be in different age groups, and that is fine with me too, as they will be 6 and 5 then.

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You know, it never occurred to me that we would be finishing dinner right about 10:00. I know this is true, but it's been so long since we had an 'adult dinner' on a ship that this didn't register. Well, I guess that sheds new light on taking them to the late night babysitting. We've always had early seating when we've cruised with them and had the few hours to fill before the late babysitting and never ended up taking them there because they fell asleep in the cabin and we just never did it. I guess it will all depend on how the 25 month old handles it. Either he will have wore himself out and will be happily snoozing by 10 pm or they will be anxious to give him back to us by then. I guess if it seems to be going well, we'll just go there directly after dinner each evening and ask how they're doing. If all is well, there they will stay. If not, I guess we know where we'll be staying. We do have two adjoining balcony cabins so all is not lost. I hope it all works out well so DH and I can spend the days with the kids and maybe have a few evenings of adult time after dinner. :D

 

No need to got camp carnival after dinner... just call them. Which ship are you sailing on? Due to the little one's age, you should get a shipboard phone. Just call and ask how they are.

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We went on the Mexican Riviera Cruise back in June 2003 with our (then) 11 year old. He attended one Camp Carnival event and never went back. Instead he hung out with us and met friends at the pool and arcade. I know if he had been in the older group he would probably have spent more time with Camp Carnival, but he felt the counselors talked down to them (they did) and that the events were babyish (they were!) And he isn't one of these "too cool" kids who are not enthusiatic about ANYTHING either - he's relatively easy to please and appreciative of anything done for him.

 

Unfortunately, he is only going to be 14 this time out and will (again) be among the oldest of the group. The events sound a bit more to his interests, but hopefully the counselors will not treat them as if they were toddlers! Anyway, whether he goes or not, I know we will have a great time! ;)

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... but he felt the counselors talked down to them (they did) and that the events were babyish (they were!) ... but hopefully the counselors will not treat them as if they were toddlers!

 

This problem is not limited to Camp Carnival or even to camp counselors.

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Actually' date=' we just got back from skiing. Adult lift tickets (12 and older) were 52 dollars, under 12 was 29 dollars. I did the same thing that most would do...had the 12 yo's say they were 11.

I saved 46 dollars !!!

You would never do such a thing, right?

Anyway, enough bickering...have a safe holiday[/quote']

 

Saying they are younger to save a few bucks....maybe not right but alot of people do it......and they don't ask for birth certificates.

 

Altering their birth certificate so they can be in another group of kids with their brothers.....a felony.

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Saying they are younger to save a few bucks....maybe not right but alot of people do it......and they don't ask for birth certificates.

 

Altering their birth certificate so they can be in another group of kids with their brothers.....a felony.

 

It is wrong in either case. And it does not matter how many people do it, it is still wrong.

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We were on the Valor last week. There were 19 of us. The three youngest, were 8, 9 and 10. My daughter being the 9 year old. The 8 and 10 year old are brother and sister and are from Greece. The 10 year old speaks English, but his 8 year old sister does not. Their mother did change their ages on the forms so that they could be together, not thinking about the fact that Carnival had all their information, so sure enough the first time we took the kids to Camp Carnival, the 8 year old was not on the list. After their mother explained the fact that she would like to keep the kids together because the little girl did not understand English, the counselor discussed the situation with the director. They ended up allowing the 8 year old to stay in the 9-11 group, but only for some activities, not all. The kids ended up hanging out with their parents most of the time instead of going to the various activities. On the other hand, my 9 year old had a blast and can't wait for her next cruise.

 

Also, I told the counselors that I didn't feel comfortable with my 9 year old checking herself out, so they knew to have her wait for me to check her out. I really appreciate and respect the counselors at Camp Carnival. They do an awesome job!

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We are going on the Valor in March.

"Valor at Xmas", you mentioned about a 9-11 year old group. Do you happen to know what the next age range would be?? I have 13 and 15 year old daughters who would prefer to be together....Is it 12 -14 and 15 and up or 12 to 15???Your info would be appreciated.

 

9-11 12-14 15-17

 

since you want them together your 15 year old will have to go to the 12-14 year old program. Kids can move down in groups not up. Its a liabilty issue and for their own safety.

Head to the teen meeting the first night-- its important. kids will meet all their new friends. There will be times the kids just tend to hang out together but for group activities---

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I posted part of this question on this thread earlier but I think it got lost in the fray. I'd like to ask for your insight into how Camp Carnival handles very young children, especially for the late night babysitting. We have a newly 2 year old (25 months at departure and a newly 5 year old (bday on the ship). I have no worries about the 5 year old b/c she is very social and begs to go to camp every minute that we allow her to.

 

My 25 month old, I'm a bit concerned about. First, I know b/c his sister will be there, it will ease my mind and will definitely ease his, but I'm wondering how the after 10pm babysitting really works for these very young children. A) either I try to keep them up and take them up there and they exhaust themselves and fall over asleep, or B) I get them to sleep in the cabin and then try to carry them up there all the while hoping they don't wake up. How do most parents do this?

 

The first time we brought my oldest to Camp Carnival when she was newly two, it didn't go well. She was not happy to be there any time of day and they quickly called us to retrieve her. I think on the entire seven day cruise, she was maybe with them for a total of three hours. I'm hoping for more success this time, especially because his 5 year old sister will be with him. I know it probably mostly depends upon the particular counselors working, but any advice you can give me to help make sure my 25 month old easily acclimates himself would be very much appreciated. Any and all thoughts/advice/tips you have regarding very young children in camp and especially the after 10 pm babysitting would be greatly appreciated.

 

Also, I've just been looking at some camp carnival kid's capers and it looks like there is a 'kid's dinner' every night with the carnival staff. Can you elaborate on how this is handled? I'm not sure if they were doing this when you were there. I'm wondering if this will be an option on some nights because I'm not sure how my 2 year old will do with this. It seems to be an 'interesting concept' to take all of those young children to a different venue and try to feed them as a group.

 

Thanks for your insight. I hesitated to post this because I remember one time on another parenting board I belonged to, someone accidentally outed themselves as a pediatrician. You can imagine the amount of posts and questions they got after that! Thanks again for any help you can offer.

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My 25 month old, I'm a bit concerned about. First, I know b/c his sister will be there, it will ease my mind and will definitely ease his, but I'm wondering how the after 10pm babysitting really works for these very young children. A) either I try to keep them up and take them up there and they exhaust themselves and fall over asleep, or B) I get them to sleep in the cabin and then try to carry them up there all the while hoping they don't wake up. How do most parents do this?
We were on the Valor earlier this month with kids 2 & 5. Both are social, 5 year old is in kindergarten, 2 year old goes to a babysitters a couple of days a week with kids 2-5 so she was right at home.

 

Most parents we met with little kids had early dinner and took their kids up to CC right afterwards. We did the same thing. Most also picked up their kids at 10pm. If you want to stay out longer you can call up to cc and let them know that you want the kids to stay. Well, they actually told us just to come back when we wanted. We didn't have to sign up in advance, but you can check if they need you to.

 

So basically, you do not have to keep your kids awake or asleep until 10 - they can be in cc before that. At a little after 10 they put on a movie & dim the lights in part of the camp. The kids can lay down & watch it or sleep.

 

If you child is the type who needs a good night sleep in his/her own bed, it may not be a good idea to stay out really late.

 

We didn't try the dinner. One night we ate late with other family at scarletts & the kids ate at the buffet with us then went to cc. I'm sure a large # of parents eat with their kids so the camp staff doesn't have that many kids to deal with at dinner. Our 2 year old ate lunch at cc when we were in port one day - she had pizza. Then she fell asleep after lunch on one of the bean bags.

 

I hope that helps a little. There were a lot of 2 year olds on our trip and they all seemed fine!

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We are going on the Valor in March.

"Valor at Xmas", you mentioned about a 9-11 year old group. Do you happen to know what the next age range would be?? I have 13 and 15 year old daughters who would prefer to be together....Is it 12 -14 and 15 and up or 12 to 15???

Your info would be appreciated.

 

My son is 15 and he hung out mostly with his 13 year old cousin. He went to a couple of the 15 -17 dances, which didn't make the 13 year old very happy, but really for the most part he was fine hanging out with his cousin. If your daughters want to be together, I'm sure the 15 year old will be fine with the 12-14 year olds. I really think that at that age, they spend a lot of time with other kids outside of Camp Carnival. We saw mixed age groups chatting and playing cards outside of the Arcade just about most nights.

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The way the camp works-- they go to the camp of the age they are the first day of sailing. I cant imagine moving a kid half way through the week. that would truly be hard--especially for a kid that age.

On what day is his birthday? Begining of the week? Point it out to the counselor.

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We were on a 7-night Alaska cruise on the Spirit this summer. On the 2nd through 6th nights there was a kids' dinner at 5:45 at the buffet restaurant on the Lido deck. They roped off a section of the seating area that was limited to kids and Camp staff. You signed your child in there like you normally would at the "Fun House." They provided the kids with their choice of spagetti or pizza. After dinner, they brought the kids back to the Fun House and that's where we picked them up at 10pm.

 

We dropped our boys (3 and 5 years) off there and went directly to our early seating dinner, and then were able to relax at one of the bars or the casino after dinner. There were only 6-12 kids max at the dinner each night so most parents either didn't know about it (although it was in the Caper) or preferred to eat with their kids. The kids dinner was a wonderful and unexpected surprise for us and is one of the reasons we chose Carnival for our next cruise in February.

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On our recent cruise in the Med on Carnival liberty our grandkids NEVER entered the dining room with us.....period. They either ate from the pizzeria before we dressed for 8:30 dinner and then went to CC or they enjoyed the CC dinners - they would never had wanted to go with us to the main dining room in the evenings - they are 4 & 6. Carnival is wonderful with kids - at least on all the cruises we have ever taken - about 8 so far. Happy Sails to You.

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