gbenjo Posted August 12, 2022 #326 Share Posted August 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Chiliburn said: @gbenjo You might be able to get some inside information. I was told by a CLIA rep that intercuise or the shore service is working on deployment of a ship year round in Brisbane for Royal Caribbean. Any word ? Yes, I could………..and the word is Speculation ( of the Seas ) 🤔 Edited August 12, 2022 by gbenjo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare arxcards Posted August 12, 2022 #327 Share Posted August 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Chiliburn said: Apparently voyager will fit into trinity inlet in Cairns but Royal Caribbean won’t take it in. I was reading Ports north supplied the relevant information to both RCG and Carnival but they declined to take anything over 300 meters. They said the channel isn’t wide enough if a wind pops up. Yep, it will fit in on a good day, so a bit of a problem to be turned away if it is a bit breezy and easier not to schedule it. Even worse if you are stuck at the wharf because of an evening breeze. The local office has had ambition to add an Oasis class for donkeys years and an ambition of a full time ship for almost as long. Brisbane has only had a summer of Legend that didn't sell and coming up for a summer of Quantum that isn't selling well. Big stretch to go to having a full time ship anytime soon when the winter months are a much harder sell. Still, I live in hope, as it would be good for competition. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare arxcards Posted August 12, 2022 #328 Share Posted August 12, 2022 2 hours ago, SinbadThePorter said: I think the turning basin would not be wide enough. Voyager class ships are around 311 meters long. Celebrity Eclipse which has to anchor off Yorkey's Knob is 317 meters long. Coral Princess, which does dock, is 294 meters. I believe the beam is also an issue for Voyager class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbenjo Posted August 12, 2022 #329 Share Posted August 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Chiliburn said: @gbenjo You might be able to get some inside information. I was told by a CLIA rep that intercuise or the shore service is working on deployment of a ship year round in Brisbane for Royal Caribbean. Any word ? And now for the real answer……… True, I could find out but we do not start back to work until October so I am not in contact with anyone from the company and if Royal wanted the public to know, they would announce it and will do so when they are ready I would assume. I guess it would not necessarily be a “ top secret” topic and I believe there was some talk about it in the past but as to what ship it would be your guess is as good as mine. If I hear anything and am able to tell you , I will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted August 12, 2022 #330 Share Posted August 12, 2022 43 minutes ago, gbenjo said: And now for the real answer……… True, I could find out but we do not start back to work until October so I am not in contact with anyone from the company and if Royal wanted the public to know, they would announce it and will do so when they are ready I would assume. I guess it would not necessarily be a “ top secret” topic and I believe there was some talk about it in the past but as to what ship it would be your guess is as good as mine. If I hear anything and am able to tell you , I will. Can’t you just make something up Graham, you know just tell what we want to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbenjo Posted August 12, 2022 #331 Share Posted August 12, 2022 22 minutes ago, Chiliburn said: Can’t you just make something up Graham, you know just tell what we want to hear. Loose lips sink ships, you know. 😱😱😂😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted August 12, 2022 #332 Share Posted August 12, 2022 14 minutes ago, gbenjo said: Loose lips sink ships, you know. 😱😱😂😂😂😂 Speculation of the seas year round in Brisbane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbenjo Posted August 12, 2022 #333 Share Posted August 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chiliburn said: Speculation of the seas year round in Brisbane. Yep, at the moment. And there are plenty of “bookings “ 😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springaussie Posted August 12, 2022 #334 Share Posted August 12, 2022 In 2020 Royal was going to be sending Serenade and Radiance to Cairns to dock opposite the casino. If this worked out Voyager Class could have went a later date. Ports North told me that they were going to increase the size of ships gradually by size depending on the success of the smaller size ships. How is Royal going to get the revenue from Brisbane in the Winter like they do to in Alaska and the Mediterranean? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff2802 Posted August 12, 2022 #335 Share Posted August 12, 2022 1 hour ago, springaussie said: How is Royal going to get the revenue from Brisbane in the Winter like they do to in Alaska and the Mediterranean? Yes, that’s something Royal would consider. Another thought… their business case for building Lelepa depends on year round revenue. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springaussie Posted August 12, 2022 #336 Share Posted August 12, 2022 1 hour ago, geoff2802 said: Yes, that’s something Royal would consider. Another thought… their business case for building Lelepa depends on year round revenue. I doubt Australia will be year round cruising even if Lelepa is built. iIf Royal do cruise from Oz during Winter it will most likely because of a deployment change With virtually no other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodscruise Posted August 12, 2022 Author #337 Share Posted August 12, 2022 I also will be surprised if Royal puts a ship year round from Brisbane, especially since they are having trouble with Quantum bookings during the peak season. And also consider, according to Brisbane ports, there will be a Carnival ship year round plus the Pacific Encounter. Royal will also be still dependant on the international market and the majority of people travel via Sydney. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted August 12, 2022 #338 Share Posted August 12, 2022 54 minutes ago, woodscruise said: I also will be surprised if Royal puts a ship year round from Brisbane, especially since they are having trouble with Quantum bookings during the peak season. And also consider, according to Brisbane ports, there will be a Carnival ship year round plus the Pacific Encounter. Royal will also be still dependant on the international market and the majority of people travel via Sydney. That’s why I think it would be a voyager class , if they do. Voyager is in a bit of a twilight zone . It’s to big to get into ports like Baltimore,Tampa or New Orleans. But then it’s to out of date for the big ticket ports that get premium price. They could afford to have a older ship at lower capacity for a trial. Gavin Smith Said they want a ship here year round and the rumour is Royal has got there shore side provider working on Brisbane with the logistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoff2802 Posted August 13, 2022 #339 Share Posted August 13, 2022 13 hours ago, springaussie said: I doubt Australia will be year round cruising even if Lelepa is built. iIf Royal do cruise from Oz during Winter it will most likely because of a deployment change With virtually no other options. Gavin tells me their intention is to operate year round once Lelepa is up and running. Of course there are no guarantees. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springaussie Posted August 13, 2022 #340 Share Posted August 13, 2022 Does anyone know if worked has started on Lelepa yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted August 13, 2022 #341 Share Posted August 13, 2022 1 hour ago, springaussie said: Does anyone know if worked has started on Lelepa yet? No ,it seems to have stalled. From what can find ,only a well and a solar power system is being put in for the village and that’s done by foreign aid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted August 13, 2022 #342 Share Posted August 13, 2022 On 7/11/2022 at 8:11 PM, woodscruise said: @chiliburn Philip, have you been following the thread on Quantum's engine problems? Do you think it will make it here? If they can’t fix quantum we will definitely be getting Navigator . https://www.cbs8.com/article/travel/new-travel-advisory-impacting-tijuana-and-rosarito/509-9ffaad7d-c424-4efe-b1ae-7adbb2fc2479 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springaussie Posted August 13, 2022 #343 Share Posted August 13, 2022 11 minutes ago, Chiliburn said: If they can’t fix quantum we will definitely be getting Navigator . https://www.cbs8.com/article/travel/new-travel-advisory-impacting-tijuana-and-rosarito/509-9ffaad7d-c424-4efe-b1ae-7adbb2fc2479 Isn’t Navigator set up for short cruises? Good chance Royal will leave California all together. They could use Navigator as a Quantum replacement in the short term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springaussie Posted August 13, 2022 #344 Share Posted August 13, 2022 10 hours ago, Chiliburn said: No ,it seems to have stalled. From what can find ,only a well and a solar power system is being put in for the village and that’s done by foreign aid. Any word on the Asian Private Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted August 13, 2022 #345 Share Posted August 13, 2022 (edited) 34 minutes ago, springaussie said: Isn’t Navigator set up for short cruises? Good chance Royal will leave California all together. They could use Navigator as a Quantum replacement in the short term. Navigator wasn’t selling very well to start with and Royal was cautious about Baja California . I believe the reason the pulled out before was civil unrest. I have no idea of a Asian Island? Edited August 13, 2022 by Chiliburn 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted August 14, 2022 #346 Share Posted August 14, 2022 It looks like it’s starting to hit the fan in Mexico . https://ktla.com/news/nationworld/cartel-threatens-weekend-of-mass-violence-in-all-of-northern-baja/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted August 14, 2022 #347 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Apparently Navigator and Carnival Radiance are only doing technical stops at Ensenada just to satisfy the PVSA. I don’t believe they are letting passengers off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
springaussie Posted August 15, 2022 #348 Share Posted August 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Chiliburn said: Apparently Navigator and Carnival Radiance are only doing technical stops at Ensenada just to satisfy the PVSA. I don’t believe they are letting passengers off. Royal swapped to Canada instead of Mexico in the health crisis. I got to see Mariner in San Fransisco May 2009. But these were week cruises from memory. Navigator is virtually just 3 and 4 nights cruises now from LAX. With the odd 5 or 7 nighter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiliburn Posted August 15, 2022 #349 Share Posted August 15, 2022 2 hours ago, springaussie said: Navigator is virtually just 3 and 4 nights cruises now from LAX. With the odd 5 or 7 nighter. So why couldn’t it do longer cruises? If things don’t calm down,there’s going to be a big announcement. Sales are bad and drug cartels with guns aren’t going to improve things. Plus Royal won’t be taking passengers to a place that the state department say to reconsider to trip. I think Navigator is the most revamped Voyager class,it could be good here. Certainly give P&O and carnival a run for there money over winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodscruise Posted August 15, 2022 Author #350 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Just a thought, Sydney Ports is showing Vision OTS been a regular visitor from October 2024, and with this been less passenger capacity, than the Voyager class vessels, could this be a contender for a year round vessel? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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