gizbug Posted October 16, 2022 #1 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Last November the ships were 50% full (which was great). Curious if the ships are back to full capacity this November? Sailing Harmony of the Seas over Thanksgiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SplashOfWater Posted October 16, 2022 #2 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Yes, back to 100%. Our Harmony sailing on September 11 had 5500 passengers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OCSC Mike Posted October 16, 2022 #3 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Yes, have been for months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gizbug Posted October 16, 2022 Author #4 Share Posted October 16, 2022 22 minutes ago, SplashOfWater said: Yes, back to 100%. Our Harmony sailing on September 11 had 5500 passengers. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted October 16, 2022 #5 Share Posted October 16, 2022 They've been at capacity since the summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNemeth Posted October 16, 2022 #6 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Our sailing on Independence in April was at about 95% capacity. At that time the only unsold cabins were those they held back for quarantine and those who tested positive who were denied boarding. Being on the ship everything felt like business as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandgeezer Posted October 16, 2022 #7 Share Posted October 16, 2022 4 hours ago, smokeybandit said: They've been at capacity since the summer Yet they are still losing money? That means they should charge more across the board. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted October 16, 2022 #8 Share Posted October 16, 2022 1 minute ago, grandgeezer said: Yet they are still losing money? That means they should charge more across the board. You don't become profitable from a shutdown like that overnight. They're cash flow positive as of the end of Q2 and they'll become profitable again soon enough. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandgeezer Posted October 16, 2022 #9 Share Posted October 16, 2022 2 hours ago, smokeybandit said: You don't become profitable from a shutdown like that overnight. They're cash flow positive as of the end of Q2 and they'll become profitable again soon enough. They started ramping up for over fourteen months, isn’t that soon enough?? With descent leadership, they should have been profitable the last quarter at the latest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpcruiser Posted October 16, 2022 #10 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Our 8 night Explorer sailing a couple of weeks ago was not full capacity. Our headwaiter said the next sailing would have 500 more people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted October 16, 2022 #11 Share Posted October 16, 2022 39 minutes ago, grandgeezer said: They started ramping up for over fourteen months, isn’t that soon enough?? With descent leadership, they should have been profitable the last quarter at the latest. You can't be profitable while paying off the loans you took out to keep your business alive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare OCSC Mike Posted October 16, 2022 #12 Share Posted October 16, 2022 39 minutes ago, fpcruiser said: Our 8 night Explorer sailing a couple of weeks ago was not full capacity. Our headwaiter said the next sailing would have 500 more people. I don't think the OP was asking if every sailing for every ship in the entire fleet was currently sailing at 100% capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la_croisiere_s'amuse Posted October 16, 2022 #13 Share Posted October 16, 2022 46 minutes ago, grandgeezer said: They started ramping up for over fourteen months, isn’t that soon enough?? With descent leadership, they should have been profitable the last quarter at the latest. I'm assuming you meant decent (=of satisfactory quality) rather than descent (the process of descending)? If so, I'm not sure what you think the leadership should or should not have been doing of late...but at any rate, as smokeybandit pointed out, the massive loans required to keep from going under during the shutdown are a HUGE financial drain. Not to mention all of the expense involved in the Cruise with Confidence program. Being cash flow positive at this stage is commendable, IMHO. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireEMT978 Posted October 17, 2022 #14 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Yep! Our October 2-9th Harmony sailing was at 103% capacity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spurschick Posted October 17, 2022 #15 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Thanksgiving you will be well over 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruiscs Posted October 17, 2022 #16 Share Posted October 17, 2022 17 hours ago, SplashOfWater said: Yes, back to 100%. Our Harmony sailing on September 11 had 5500 passengers. That is not 100% was on Wonder in august-6400 onboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tin can Posted October 17, 2022 #17 Share Posted October 17, 2022 13 hours ago, SNemeth said: Our sailing on Independence in April was at about 95% capacity. At that time the only unsold cabins were those they held back for quarantine and those who tested positive who were denied boarding. Being on the ship everything felt like business as usual. The same on Anthem in May, I'm guessing therefore if its 100% now that no rooms are being held back anymore for quarantine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted October 17, 2022 #18 Share Posted October 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Cruiscs said: That is not 100% was on Wonder in august-6400 onboard 100% occupancy for Harmony is 5500 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken at the beach Posted October 17, 2022 #19 Share Posted October 17, 2022 4 hours ago, Cruiscs said: That is not 100% was on Wonder in august-6400 onboard 100% capacity is based on double occupancy. Prior to the shutdown Royal was closer to 115% capacity 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joseph2017China Posted October 17, 2022 #20 Share Posted October 17, 2022 21 hours ago, gizbug said: Last November the ships were 50% full (which was great). Curious if the ships are back to full capacity this November? Sailing Harmony of the Seas over Thanksgiving. Ships sail based on number of people who purchased the cruise. Biggest market outside of the USA is Europe and with restrictions on place many people from the second largest market, did not or were restricted to fly. Once all the restrictions were lifted, people are now traveling. They have been selling unrestricted cabins for a very long time, and having restricted capacity is long forgotten. You are sailing a holiday week. The ship will be over 100%. Enjoy being normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SplashOfWater Posted October 17, 2022 #21 Share Posted October 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Cruiscs said: That is not 100% was on Wonder in august-6400 onboard As others have stated, 100% is based on double occupancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare rudeney Posted October 17, 2022 #22 Share Posted October 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Tin can said: The same on Anthem in May, I'm guessing therefore if its 100% now that no rooms are being held back anymore for quarantine. This came up on the All-Access Tour on Voyager a few weeks ago. The security officer made a comment about not having a COVID quarantine section anymore. I assume that if you test positive on that ship, you are just quarantined to your own room. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
time4u2go Posted October 17, 2022 #23 Share Posted October 17, 2022 23 hours ago, gizbug said: Last November the ships were 50% full (which was great). Curious if the ships are back to full capacity this November? Sailing Harmony of the Seas over Thanksgiving. Sadly, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted October 17, 2022 #24 Share Posted October 17, 2022 16 minutes ago, rudeney said: This came up on the All-Access Tour on Voyager a few weeks ago. The security officer made a comment about not having a COVID quarantine section anymore. I assume that if you test positive on that ship, you are just quarantined to your own room. Which would (finally) be consistent with other contagious disease onboard ship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grandgeezer Posted October 17, 2022 #25 Share Posted October 17, 2022 16 hours ago, smokeybandit said: You can't be profitable while paying off the loans you took out to keep your business alive. The last I read was their debt was $25,000,000,000, might take awhile to pay a majority of that off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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