Guest Bronston Posted June 19, 2023 #1 Share Posted June 19, 2023 The investment firm that owns Parc 55 hotel in San Francisco has stopped payment on its loan to the bank. Princess cruises uses this hotel as one of its pre and post cruise hotel stays. Princess customer service are oblivious to this new status. Will the place be available in July? Who knows….but Princess has my money and should provide info. Maybe I can just stay at Princess’s CEO’ s house….. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Rick&Jeannie Posted June 19, 2023 #2 Share Posted June 19, 2023 In my opinion (*maybe* worth 2 cents!) that sounds like a problem strictly between the firm and the bank. I can't see how it would involve Princess unless perhaps they went out of business. Then...Princess would have to come up with a different hotel for you. Again...just my opinion! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bronston Posted June 19, 2023 #3 Share Posted June 19, 2023 I concur. Simply put - one would think Princess would at least address the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VibeGuy Posted June 19, 2023 #4 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Day to day operations are expected to be unaffected. JP Morgan has owned lots of operating hotels before as part of foreclosures or deeds in lieu. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ldtr Posted June 19, 2023 #5 Share Posted June 19, 2023 The owner of the Hotel has stopped paying the bank, but the hotel has not closed and it is still operating the same as before. Until it halts operations not an issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCX22 Posted June 19, 2023 #6 Share Posted June 19, 2023 Cancel if you still can and move to a safer part of town. That hotel borders the Tenderloin and isn't exactly in a safe place. Lots of homeless and druggies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ldtr Posted June 19, 2023 #7 Share Posted June 19, 2023 1 hour ago, SCX22 said: Cancel if you still can and move to a safer part of town. That hotel borders the Tenderloin and isn't exactly in a safe place. Lots of homeless and druggies. About the only safe place is outside of San Francisco if your definition of unsafe is homeless and druggies. The main reason why the owners stopped paying on the loan for both that hotel and the Hilton is that they are primarily conference hotels and not very many conferences in San Francisco these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCX22 Posted June 20, 2023 #8 Share Posted June 20, 2023 26 minutes ago, ldtr said: About the only safe place is outside of San Francisco if your definition of unsafe is homeless and druggies. The main reason why the owners stopped paying on the loan for both that hotel and the Hilton is that they are primarily conference hotels and not very many conferences in San Francisco these days. I'm aware. From the Bay Area myself. Better off staying at the Hyatt Regency on the Embarcadero, Fairmont/Mark Hopkins on Nob Hill, or one of the hotels near Fisherman's Wharf. Just stay away from the Union Square and Tenderloin Area. There's nothing to see there any more. Practically all of the businesses there are closed anyway. It's a creepy area to walk at night (even during the day), and it's a shame that such a vibrant area in the past has gone down the drain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ldtr Posted June 20, 2023 #9 Share Posted June 20, 2023 1 hour ago, SCX22 said: I'm aware. From the Bay Area myself. Better off staying at the Hyatt Regency on the Embarcadero, Fairmont/Mark Hopkins on Nob Hill, or one of the hotels near Fisherman's Wharf. Just stay away from the Union Square and Tenderloin Area. There's nothing to see there any more. Practically all of the businesses there are closed anyway. It's a creepy area to walk at night (even during the day), and it's a shame that such a vibrant area in the past has gone down the drain. A shooting incident between two cars near fishermans wharf the other evening. Just do not have a car parked anywhere near the Hyatt. A friend of mine had his windows smashed while he was checking into a hotel there. That area has its own problems. I simply do not stay in the city any more. I either stay out by the airport or across the Golden Gate in Sausalito or Mill Valley. For that matter I really do not even see a reason to visit San Francisco itself any more. If I take a cruise from there I stay near the airport and get a town car to/from the port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCX22 Posted June 20, 2023 #10 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Just now, ldtr said: A shooting incident between two cars near fishermans wharf the other evening. Just do not have a car parked anywhere near the Hyatt. A friend of mine had his windows smashed while he was checking into a hotel there. That area has its own problems. I simply do not stay in the city any more. I either stay out by the airport or across the Golden Gate in Sausalito or Mill Valley. For that matter I really do not even see a reason to visit San Francisco itself any more. If I take a cruise from there I stay near the airport and get a town car to/from the port. Where does a tourist stay in San Francisco then? Union Square, Tenderloin, and South of Market are the really bad areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ldtr Posted June 20, 2023 #11 Share Posted June 20, 2023 2 minutes ago, SCX22 said: Where does a tourist stay in San Francisco then? Union Square, Tenderloin, and South of Market are the really bad areas. That is the problem. My recommendation is stay is Sausalito or Tiburon and take the ferry over. Staying in the hotels are fine, as long as you do not have a car and do not plan to walk around after dark. If I had no choice I would probably pick the Kimpton Allen or the Hyatt Centric over in the fishermans wharf area. You have an increasing number of homeless even in the Fishermans Wharf area. I used to stay in what is now 1 Hotel (before it changed brands) over near the ferry Building. and even that area has developed its own issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasa1974 Posted June 20, 2023 #12 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Any hotel recommendations near the airport that provides shuttle service to the airport? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ldtr Posted June 20, 2023 #13 Share Posted June 20, 2023 36 minutes ago, nasa1974 said: Any hotel recommendations near the airport that provides shuttle service to the airport? None that I know of. After Covid even some of the shuttles to the airport are now paid for. We use a car service take us to and from. Unfortunately the number of those greatly reduced during Covid and the prices went up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasa1974 Posted June 20, 2023 #14 Share Posted June 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, ldtr said: None that I know of. After Covid even some of the shuttles to the airport are now paid for. We use a car service take us to and from. Unfortunately the number of those greatly reduced during Covid and the prices went up. Thanks. I have 3 or 4 in mind (close to the airport) and have to check them out. Plan on spending the night after a cruise and fly out the next morning instead of 10:30 that night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ldtr Posted June 20, 2023 #15 Share Posted June 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, nasa1974 said: Thanks. I have 3 or 4 in mind (close to the airport) and have to check them out. Plan on spending the night after a cruise and fly out the next morning instead of 10:30 that night. The Grand Hyatt at SFO is on the SFO red line AirTrain system that loops around all of the terminals. Gives you easy access when it is time to leave the next day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nasa1974 Posted June 20, 2023 #16 Share Posted June 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, ldtr said: The Grand Hyatt at SFO is on the SFO red line AirTrain system that loops around all of the terminals. Gives you easy access when it is time to leave the next day. I was looking at the Hyatt, but it's at least $100 more than some of the hotels a little further out. I have a 6:30a flight. Still need to do a little research. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phabric Posted June 20, 2023 #17 Share Posted June 20, 2023 Any idea what a taxi would be from SFO airport to the port? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Rick&Jeannie Posted June 20, 2023 #18 Share Posted June 20, 2023 17 hours ago, nasa1974 said: Any hotel recommendations near the airport that provides shuttle service to the airport? Mr. Uber would be your friend here...or Mr. Lyft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitla42 Posted June 20, 2023 #19 Share Posted June 20, 2023 We got a private car from Riu Plaza just off Fisherman Wharf to the airport and was told it was about the same price as a taxi , this was at the end of March. Price 65 dollars plus tip . The hotel arranged it . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Shippy Posted June 20, 2023 #20 Share Posted June 20, 2023 People flying in to San Francisco must realize that the San Francisco airport is NOT in San Francisco :O) It is a bit more down the peninsula. Stay at a hotel there, not in the city ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrmarklin Posted June 21, 2023 #21 Share Posted June 21, 2023 (edited) Depending on your timing, the hotels near the pier where the ship will be are in a good area of the City, and near Fisherman’s Wharf. It will be a very short cab ride to the pier. Staying near SFO airport, there is nothing to see or do. There are a couple of decent restaurants near the airport. Try Max’s or Kincaids. But you may need Uber depending on the exact Hotel. Edited June 21, 2023 by mrmarklin More info Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephenandrew Posted June 21, 2023 #22 Share Posted June 21, 2023 On 6/19/2023 at 7:24 PM, SCX22 said: I'm aware. From the Bay Area myself. Better off staying at the Hyatt Regency on the Embarcadero, Fairmont/Mark Hopkins on Nob Hill, or one of the hotels near Fisherman's Wharf. Just stay away from the Union Square and Tenderloin Area. There's nothing to see there any more. Practically all of the businesses there are closed anyway. It's a creepy area to walk at night (even during the day), and it's a shame that such a vibrant area in the past has gone down the drain. I’m not from SF, and have not visited in many years. I read the news and was aware of the issues the city was facing, but was disheartened to see your characterization of Union Square. I completely believe you, but my memory of that area was very positive….as you described, it was an attractive, vibrant part of the city. It’s a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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