funinhounslow Posted September 23, 2023 #201 Share Posted September 23, 2023 11 minutes ago, Interestedcruisefan said: . Only thing that's got worse for me is Wi-Fi costs I quite like the enforced break from my phone but occasional access would be nice. It will be interesting to see what the Starlink roll out brings to the table… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Interestedcruisefan Posted September 23, 2023 #202 Share Posted September 23, 2023 56 minutes ago, funinhounslow said: I quite like the enforced break from my phone but occasional access would be nice. It will be interesting to see what the Starlink roll out brings to the table… I'm still in business so have to do a bit every day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrierjohn Posted September 23, 2023 #203 Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Interestedcruisefan said: And at least with P And O you have the choice of having a great value cruise and adding high end speciality food to it on board and still getting great value Rather than just having a MUCH more expensive cruise from the get go People would never compare what you get paying 80k for a car compared to 30k Or what you get paying 1M for a house compared to 400k But with cruises on here people are comparing entirely different priced products alongside each other all the time And even comparing P and O now to P and O 15 years ago is not relevant as pricewise against cost of living P and O seems to be the only place where prices haven't actuallty one up??? Personally I way prefer the current offering I get from Arvia now at the current price to the offering I got from Azura over 10 years ago at the price back then Much wider choice of food and bar options now. Much wider choice of entertainment and activities now. Plus way more modern facilities on the ships. Only thing that's got worse for me is Wi-Fi costs It's alright to stress the price difference between P&O and other lines, and equate that with a comparison of a Ford vs a BMW, however in todays market you do expect the Ford to provide you with an engine and brakes that work, and a car that performs better than the one you just traded in, even if it's not as luxurious as a BMW. What you dont expect or in fact get, is a car that's not fit for purpose, whereas I maintain that the current worst examples of P&Os MDR meals and menus, are way below an acceptable standard, as compared with years gone by. Edited September 23, 2023 by terrierjohn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funinhounslow Posted September 23, 2023 #204 Share Posted September 23, 2023 29 minutes ago, terrierjohn said: It's alright to stress the price difference between P&O and other lines, and equate that with a comparison of a Ford vs a BMW, however in todays market you do expect the Ford to provide you with an engine and brakes that work, and a car that performs better than the one you just traded in, even if it's not as luxurious as a BMW. What you dont expect or in fact get, is a car that's not fit for purpose, whereas I maintain that the current worst examples of P&Os MDR meals and menus, are way below an acceptable standard, as compared with years gone by. But you are paying a lot less in real terms than “years gone by”, so again it’s an unfair comparison - you aren’t comparing like with like. Stick the cost of a cruise from 5-10 years ago into the BofE’s inflation calculator and prepare to be taken aback. About the only thing that hasn’t gone up in price significantly over the past couple of years is my P&O cruise. I don’t consider the MDR food “below acceptable standard”. If anyone does they can hit the buffet or pony up for the Epicurean. Or pay extra and go on Celebrity or whoever. Like I said you pay your money and take your choice. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanieC,Aston Posted September 23, 2023 #205 Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Interestedcruisefan said: 4 hours ago, sweep2907 said: Where did you guys get your school dinners from? Hi New dress code for Formal nights…….😏 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Interestedcruisefan Posted September 23, 2023 #206 Share Posted September 23, 2023 39 minutes ago, terrierjohn said: It's alright to stress the price difference between P&O and other lines, and equate that with a comparison of a Ford vs a BMW, however in todays market you do expect the Ford to provide you with an engine and brakes that work, and a car that performs better than the one you just traded in, even if it's not as luxurious as a BMW. What you dont expect or in fact get, is a car that's not fit for purpose, whereas I maintain that the current worst examples of P&Os MDR meals and menus, are way below an acceptable standard, as compared with years gone by. Totally disagree that P and O MDR is not fit for purpose or below an acceptable standard Other than when things have gone seriously wrong on a given night and they aren't delivering what they intend to deliver And if you are comparing standards to many years ago the higher end choices by and large are available on the ships. Much wider choices of foods from all cuisines available on the big ships And it now appears some high end items will be finding themselves back in MDR menus as well And the fact they come with a supplement is very much countered by the comparative very low price to cruise with P and O now compared to the old days On all counts P and O is offering the best opportunities to dine and drink than ever before IMO In the old days drinks would be standard gin and tonic, rum and coke, vodka and orange etc Food would be buffet, MDR and maybe 1 or 2 speciality restaurants with prawn cocktail and the odd lobster meal thrown in to get everybody excited Prawn cocktail unless it's some deconstructed fine dining new concept of it wouldn't even get close to find dining menus nowadays. Too basic, too standard If one of the amateurs served it on Masterchef they would get laughed at and would be out first week I could make 5,000 prawn cocktails myself in a day if you put the ingredients in front of me Yet older cruisers on her consider it part of the glory days of MDR on P and O? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Megabear2 Posted September 23, 2023 #207 Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 hours ago, Interestedcruisefan said: Only thing that's got worse for me is Wi-Fi costs At the moment 15% off the packages if you buy in advance plus your discount for Peninsular. Just purchased ours for January- my Peninsular discount is 8 1/2% and that came off too. Total for Ultimate Internet package was £196. My 2 week Arvia one in May was £230.58 for the same package. Hope that helps. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel57 Posted September 23, 2023 #208 Share Posted September 23, 2023 @Interestedcruisefan oh, I love a prawn cocktail…..🤣🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Interestedcruisefan Posted September 23, 2023 #209 Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) 23 minutes ago, JeanieC,Aston said: Hi New dress code for Formal nights…….😏 That actually looks like one of my old school uniforms? Fairfield Loughborough? The feeder school to Loughborough Grammar Meals at Fairfield were horrible. Prunes, semolina with jam, cold bananas in custard. No choice at all Scarred me for life At Loughborough Grammar we got a choice and even got chips on Wednesday and Fridays Edited September 23, 2023 by Interestedcruisefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Interestedcruisefan Posted September 23, 2023 #210 Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Megabear2 said: At the moment 15% off the packages if you buy in advance plus your discount for Peninsular. Just purchased ours for January- my Peninsular discount is 8 1/2% and that came off too. Total for Ultimate Internet package was £196. My 2 week Arvia one in May was £230.58 for the same package. Hope that helps. Very much helps never thought to buy in advance Much appreciated MB I'm also going to really monitor any downtime and claim refunds at end of cruise if I'm impacted by them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Interestedcruisefan Posted September 23, 2023 #211 Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Angel57 said: @Interestedcruisefan oh, I love a prawn cocktail…..🤣🤣🤣 So do my mum and dad. My wife likes them as well on occasions. But like I say zero skill in making them and extremely basic food And given the choice my wife would want larger prawns cooked in garlic and/or chilli etc now Let's be honest prawn cocktail goes back to the time when your choices were grapefruit segments starter with a cherry in the middle or glass of orange juice or minestrone soup. Edited September 23, 2023 by Interestedcruisefan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Megabear2 Posted September 23, 2023 #212 Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Interestedcruisefan said: Very much helps never thought to buy in advance Much appreciated MB I'm also going to really monitor any downtime and claim refunds at end of cruise if I'm impacted by them Glad to help. Let me know how you get on. Nightmare with the personaliser at the moment as the flight booking site has crashed everything apparently. Couldn't finish my excursion/internet booking yesterday but worked okay for that side at 10.00am. Flight checker according to my contact yesterday has caused a meltdown! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanieC,Aston Posted September 23, 2023 #213 Share Posted September 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Interestedcruisefan said: That actually looks like one of my old school uniforms? Fairfield Loughborough? The feeder school to Loughborough Grammar Meals at Fairfield were horrible. Prunes, semolina, bananas in custard. No choice at all Scarred me for life At Loughborough Grammar we got a choice and even got chips on Wednesday and Fridays Hi P&O should be embarrassed to put this on a MDR menu,,like your Prawn Cocktail this is food from a age now passed for cruise ship dining.This is school dinner food,,or as my old mam used to say ‘Stodge’. Pps,I’ve had some lovely Prawn Cocktail on some ships depends whether it’s shrimps (P&O) or prawns (Celebrity or Fred Olsen) and the sauce used. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincslady Posted September 23, 2023 #214 Share Posted September 23, 2023 I certainly agree that the steak and kidney pie and bread and butter pudding qualify as school dinner fodder - even donkey's years ago when I was at school under post-war rationing. But I imagine there are normally more exciting things on the included dinner menu. I would feel pretty insulted if that was the only choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dermotsgirl Posted September 23, 2023 #215 Share Posted September 23, 2023 I have to say, if I was given a choice of those main courses, I’d probably feel compelled to choose the paid for option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Interestedcruisefan Posted September 23, 2023 #216 Share Posted September 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, JeanieC,Aston said: Hi P&O should be embarrassed to put this on a MDR menu,,like your Prawn Cocktail this is food from a age now passed for cruise ship dining.This is school dinner food,,or as my old mam used to say ‘Stodge’. Pps,I’ve had some lovely Prawn Cocktail on some ships depends whether it’s shrimps (P&O) or prawns (Celebrity or Fred Olsen) and the sauce used. I get your sentiment but I'm sure they are attempting to offer retro type food as well there (assume it main and dessert you are questioning) On the menu shown above would have been leg of lamb main for me And Chocolate marquise plus a second dessert honey panacotta I actually like bread and butter pudding as well but with ice cream not custard. Would wait til that's on at the buffet though. (Asking for 3 desserts might have been pushing it) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Interestedcruisefan Posted September 23, 2023 #217 Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, lincslady said: I certainly agree that the steak and kidney pie and bread and butter pudding qualify as school dinner fodder - even donkey's years ago when I was at school under post-war rationing. But I imagine there are normally more exciting things on the included dinner menu. I would feel pretty insulted if that was the only choice. It's not The rest of the menu included plenty of decent choices There's always a good roast every night as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Interestedcruisefan Posted September 23, 2023 #218 Share Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) Here's the rest of the menu from the same night above Edited September 23, 2023 by Interestedcruisefan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angel57 Posted September 23, 2023 #219 Share Posted September 23, 2023 14 minutes ago, Interestedcruisefan said: So do my mum and dad. My wife likes them as well on occasions. But like I say zero skill in making them and extremely basic food And given the choice my wife would want larger prawns cooked in garlic and/or chilli etc now Let's be honest prawn cocktail goes back to the time when your choices were grapefruit segments starter with a cherry in the middle or glass of orange juice or tomato soup. Ha ha. You are so right. Oh my, I could just eat jumbo prawns sautéed in garlic….. I remember my parents had a set of grapefruit glasses in which half a grapefruit was plonked along with a cherry. We also had a special knife to separate the segments. Thanks for that memory! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancashire_cruisers Posted September 23, 2023 #220 Share Posted September 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, JeanieC,Aston said: Hi P&O should be embarrassed to put this on a MDR menu,,like your Prawn Cocktail this is food from a age now passed for cruise ship dining.This is school dinner food,,or as my old mam used to say ‘Stodge’. Pps,I’ve had some lovely Prawn Cocktail on some ships depends whether it’s shrimps (P&O) or prawns (Celebrity or Fred Olsen) and the sauce used. If that was the full menu I’d agree but it’s only a small selection of it as per the original post. Having done a long cruise in the past we got to the point where we craved ‘normal’ food so whilst it wouldn’t appeal to me as a pescatarian my husband would have maybe appreciated it. I had a quick mooch through other boards and there are complaints about the standard of food on most of them, including Celebrity and Cunard which goes to show how subjective the perceived quality of food is. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanieC,Aston Posted September 23, 2023 #221 Share Posted September 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Interestedcruisefan said: I get your sentiment but I'm sure they are attempting to offer retro type food as well there (assume it main and dessert you are questioning) On the menu shown above would have been leg of lamb main for me And Chocolate marquise plus a second dessert honey panacotta I actually like bread and butter pudding as well but with ice cream not custard. Would wait til that's on at the buffet though. (Asking for 3 desserts might have been pushing it) Hi. You post of modern up to date food choices not food from ages ago,,,,,,and you choose the leg of lamb,,,,yeh right. Two slices of lamb a scoop of spuds and a few slices of green beans. With a chocolate mousse,,,,,,,the fancy name doesn’t impress me. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Interestedcruisefan Posted September 23, 2023 #222 Share Posted September 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, lancashire_cruisers said: If that was the full menu I’d agree but it’s only a small selection of it as per the original post. Having done a long cruise in the past we got to the point where we craved ‘normal’ food so whilst it wouldn’t appeal to me as a pescatarian my husband would have maybe appreciated it. I had a quick mooch through other boards and there are complaints about the standard of food on most of them, including Celebrity and Cunard which goes to show how subjective the perceived quality of food is. I hazard a guess plenty of people happily chose steak and kidney pie and bread and butter pudding regardless For old times sake etc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeanieC,Aston Posted September 23, 2023 #223 Share Posted September 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, lancashire_cruisers said: If that was the full menu I’d agree but it’s only a small selection of it as per the original post. Having done a long cruise in the past we got to the point where we craved ‘normal’ food so whilst it wouldn’t appeal to me as a pescatarian my husband would have maybe appreciated it. I had a quick mooch through other boards and there are complaints about the standard of food on most of them, including Celebrity and Cunard which goes to show how subjective the perceived quality of food is. Hi As a P&O and Celebrity cruiser I have criticised both on this board and the X board. It’s those who believe in “My P&O right or wrong’ that I challenge. To keep the thread on topic,,,,I simply believe standards and quality have dropped on P&O since shutdown……..and Celebrity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare Interestedcruisefan Posted September 23, 2023 #224 Share Posted September 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, JeanieC,Aston said: Hi. You post of modern up to date food choices not food from ages ago,,,,,,and you choose the leg of lamb,,,,yeh right. Two slices of lamb a scoop of spuds and a few slices of green beans. With a chocolate mousse,,,,,,,the fancy name doesn’t impress me. Lol I was out last Sunday and said to my wife sometimes theres nothing better you can want to eat than roast lunch The roasts on the MDR menus and the chicken are my fall backs when I don't fancy anything else The new signature dishes if they stay make my choices even harder. But in a good way!! Equally sometimes theres nothing to beat a good fish and chips 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancashire_cruisers Posted September 23, 2023 #225 Share Posted September 23, 2023 Just now, Interestedcruisefan said: I hazard a guess plenty of people happily chose steak and kidney pie and bread and butter pudding regardless For old times sake etc I know my late Mum would have as she was a very plain eater and she wasn’t alone in that respect. I read some posts on this board and wonder why the heck some people put themselves through the horror (in their minds) of a P&O Cruise 😂😂😂 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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