Bgwest Posted May 15 #1 Share Posted May 15 Sorry YC antagonists. https://www.cruisehive.com/msc-cruises-reveals-details-on-largest-msc-yacht-club-in-north-america/133895 Pl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peder Posted May 15 #2 Share Posted May 15 Sounds identical to World Europa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Two Wheels Only Posted May 15 #3 Share Posted May 15 10 minutes ago, peder said: Sounds identical to World Europa It is... "The announcement highlights the introduction of what will be the largest MSC Yacht Club in the North American market." MSC should do what RCCL does and add an extra few millimeters to each new build for a class so that it can be the "....new LARGEST EVERRRRR!!!!!" at something. 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peder Posted May 15 #4 Share Posted May 15 Yeah, I read the post. But it's just a press release and has no new info whatsoever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Dave Posted May 16 #5 Share Posted May 16 I have been in the YC on Divina, Meraviglia, Seaside and Seashore many times over the last three-ish years. After reading all the comments on FB about World Europa YC, I have no interest in trying the World America YC. Way too many special services, amentities, etc. have been lost on World Europa due to the increased size of the YC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1talks Posted May 16 #6 Share Posted May 16 4 minutes ago, GA Dave said: "Way too many special services, amentities, etc. have been lost on World Europa due to the increased size of the YC." Please elaborate. I'm curious about specific changes because I've not read about anything other than the unfavorable passenger-to-space ratio in World Europa's YC. (Which is bad enough, of course.) Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Dave Posted May 16 #7 Share Posted May 16 No snacks openly available in the Top Sail Lounge, no breakfast or lunch buffet at the One Bar, loungers filling up like they do at the gen pop pools, people having to wait 30-60 minutes for a table in the YC restaurant (I have never had to wait for a table in many YC cruises), Butlers stretched much thinner, etc. I have had nothing but great experiences on the "older" ships I have sailed and have no desire to try something new at a much higher price point, just to be disappointed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1talks Posted May 16 #8 Share Posted May 16 9 minutes ago, GA Dave said: No snacks openly available in the Top Sail Lounge, no breakfast or lunch buffet at the One Bar, loungers filling up like they do at the gen pop pools, people having to wait 30-60 minutes for a table in the YC restaurant (I have never had to wait for a table in many YC cruises), Butlers stretched much thinner, etc. I have had nothing but great experiences on the "older" ships I have sailed and have no desire to try something new at a much higher price point, just to be disappointed. This is terrible news. 😵 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peder Posted May 16 #9 Share Posted May 16 The service aspects are irrelevant to us, and the wait times for dinner seem to have been at least partially solved by opening a second dining space for YC guests in the 2nd floor of the buffet. However, the small pool, only having one whirlpool? Moving away from small plate snacks + buffet to a made-to-order grill? That's a big step back from the Seashore/Seascape YC experience. The Owners Suites look great, tho, so I'm still tempted to book on World America or World Europa. And the rest of the ship, especially the outdoor promenade look great. It seems like the World-class ships have the best Bella/Fantastica experience of any class in the fleet? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare GPPhilly Posted May 16 #10 Share Posted May 16 The last 2 trips I have had on the Euribia and the Seaside the daily snacks to grab yourself have disappeared as well. Now you must ask and you get what is available at that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sverigecruiser Posted May 16 #11 Share Posted May 16 1 hour ago, peder said: However, the small pool, only having one whirlpool? Moving away from small plate snacks + buffet to a made-to-order grill? That's a big step back from the Seashore/Seascape YC experience. There are two large whirlpool on the Top 20 deck just outside the YC on deck 20. I think that the made-to-order food was very nice so no step back, I think. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sverigecruiser Posted May 16 #12 Share Posted May 16 3 minutes ago, GPPhilly said: The last 2 trips I have had on the Euribia and the Seaside the daily snacks to grab yourself have disappeared as well. Now you must ask and you get what is available at that time. That's disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peder Posted May 16 #13 Share Posted May 16 3 minutes ago, sverigecruiser said: There are two large whirlpool on the Top 20 deck just outside the YC on deck 20. I think that the made-to-order food was very nice so no step back, I think. oh, good to know. Almost everyone has labeled the food situation as more of a hassle and/or taking things away. Yours is the first report I've seen saying it's at least largely equivalent. But RE: whirlpools: the Top 20 deck whirlpools are of course shared with Aurea, no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnocket Posted May 16 #14 Share Posted May 16 In my experience, "largest ever" rarely turns out to be a good thing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peder Posted May 16 #15 Share Posted May 16 And ya know, I'd argue that the Explora 1 is the largest YC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
no1talks Posted May 16 #16 Share Posted May 16 17 minutes ago, peder said: And ya know, I'd argue that the Explora 1 is the largest YC. Except only one of the three categories of rooms receives butler service. Explora focuses on speciality dining venues, rather than one general menu. This makes it harder to establish special dining requests than in YC. One can have the same server team for all your dinners in YC, which makes standing requests easy. So, rather different from Yacht Club, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sverigecruiser Posted May 16 #17 Share Posted May 16 34 minutes ago, peder said: But RE: whirlpools: the Top 20 deck whirlpools are of course shared with Aurea, no? Yes but on our cruise they were not used much and they are very big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sverigecruiser Posted May 16 #18 Share Posted May 16 35 minutes ago, peder said: oh, good to know. Almost everyone has labeled the food situation as more of a hassle and/or taking things away. Yours is the first report I've seen saying it's at least largely equivalent. It was very hot on the sundeck on our cruise but it was a nice outside restaurant. Sit down and they give you a menu to order from. Much better than a buffet, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sverigecruiser Posted May 16 #19 Share Posted May 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare morpheusofthesea Posted May 16 #20 Share Posted May 16 (edited) 33 minutes ago, no1talks said: Except only one of the three categories of rooms receives butler service. Explora focuses on speciality dining venues, rather than one general menu. This makes it harder to establish special dining requests than in YC. One can have the same server team for all your dinners in YC, which makes standing requests easy. So, rather different from Yacht Club, really. True. This where our Residence butler shined. He said to us he was a “genie”, so immediately put him to the test. Told him we were not adventurous diners. We picked out the restaurant that we felt most comfortable with its menu and told him we wanted our own table for two for breakfast and dinner. He said he will escort us to meet the maitre’d of the restaurant and facilitate setting this request up. When we met with Nicole he was already aware of our request and asked only for us to select which table.Told him we wanted the same best waiter he had for all meals. “Yes, of course “ was his reply and I showed him my appreciation. We never stood in line. So for us it was just like YCRestaurant. DW got her special order meal every evening. Edited May 16 by morpheusofthesea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisgp999 Posted May 16 #21 Share Posted May 16 On 5/15/2024 at 2:46 PM, Two Wheels Only said: It is... "The announcement highlights the introduction of what will be the largest MSC Yacht Club in the North American market." MSC should do what RCCL does and add an extra few millimeters to each new build for a class so that it can be the "....new LARGEST EVERRRRR!!!!!" at something. 😁 My concern is that "the largest MSC Yacht Club in the North American market" means greatest number of YC passengers without a comparable increase in YC area and staff. I've adopted a wait and see posture regarding a booking on the WORLD AMERICA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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