Do you smoke on a cruise?

[Sky Sweet]

Even though I know a lot of people who smoked at one point in time, very few of my friends and relatives still do. This leads me to believe that Celebrity would not lose a significant amount of business if smoking was no longer allowed on its ships.

[ECCruise]

Even though I know a lot of people who smoked at one point in time, very few of my friends and relatives still do. This leads me to believe that Celebrity would not lose a significant amount of business if smoking was no longer allowed on its ships.

 

I am no longer a smoker, but Celebrity would lose a MINIMUM of 24% of passengers (number of people who smoke) which would actually be greater impact since there are a number of one smoker couples who would not cruise with X. This would probably eliminate at least 30% or so of potential cruisers. Can you say no way? Can you say financial suicide?

 

Even the most strict of cruise lines when it comes to smoking, Oceania, does allow smoking on the ships, although it is in very limited areas and not in staterooms.

 

Maybe in another 10 years or so, but not now.

[ODECCIT]

Let's do a booze free cruise too. I hate when people drink around me. Just kidding. I smoke and my friends that travel with me don't, but they would smoke a good cuban cigar on the cruise with me.

[Eddie1]

I have been on 28 cruises, and over the years smoking has been going down.

 

The worst experience was on the Atlantica, the Europeans smoke like Americans did 30 years ago.

 

I must admit going on the Paradise, was a great cruise no smoking at all. Too bad they now allow smoking!

 

I was on the Voyager last year, the people on the next balcony smoked like chimneys. For the life of me, I cannot see the need to smoke one cigarette after another, just is beyond logic. Also some people light cigarettes and leave them smoldering in ashtrays (so uncool).

 

Smokers are their own worst enemy, if smoking is banned it is because so many smokers, are rude, and all other smokers will pay for this rudeness.

[rmchunter]

I am no longer a smoker, but Celebrity would lose a MINIMUM of 24% of passengers (number of people who smoke) which would actually be greater impact since there are a number of one smoker couples who would not cruise with X. This would probably eliminate at least 30% or so of potential cruisers. Can you say no way? Can you say financial suicide?

 

Even the most strict of cruise lines when it comes to smoking, Oceania, does allow smoking on the ships, although it is in very limited areas and not in staterooms.

 

Maybe in another 10 years or so, but not now.

What if the 70% non-smokers were to decide as a group thay had enough of the smoke. That the 30% that smoke on the ships were not going to dictate how the rest of us cruise. We could put them all in dry-dock. It was so bad on the Adventure of the Seas ( 02/26/06) that we will not cruise until things change.

[tbelian]

Let's do a booze free cruise too. I hate when people drink around me.

 

Nicotine and alcohol are both addictive drugs, with harmful health effects. Nevertheless alcoholics cruise, as do recovering smokers.

[Bisous3]

I am an ex smoker but my dh still smokes. He is considerate about it though - only smokes where its allowed.

 

Europeans still don't "get" that smoking wherever you want is rude. They don't look at it the same way. Even the non smokers shrug it off and will say their used to it. Its gross I know but to them its still much more accepted.

 

Eddie, if you never smoked you simply don't understand the addiction....the lighting one with another- its very powerful. I am quit for 7 years now, I run 3 miles a day- hate the smell of smoke in my hair or on my clothes or worst of all in a hotel rroom (that nasty stale smoke smell) but there are times, especially when cruising- after a big meal or with a cocktail- or sitting at a slot machine - that I will crave a cigarette.

 

My plan is when I hit 75 I am smoking again and eating whatever I want. Who cares at that point. If I have 10- 15 years left I won't deprive myself . ;-)

[Sky Sweet]

Smokers and education

 

Adults with 16 or more years of education had the lowest smoking prevalence (11.3 percent). Adults with 9 to 11 years of education had higher smoking prevalence (36.8 percent) compared to adults with fewer or more years of education.

 

Smokers by socio-economic status

 

Smoking prevalence was higher among adults living below the poverty level (32.3 percent) than those living at or above the poverty level (23.5 percent).

[delawareshore]

whew, harsh snobbery there. as a trying to quit DR. and atty..we feel the snobbiness factor settling in again..40 + yrs of schooling. yep we know better and trying to fight the battle, however dont like the comments.

[delawareshore]

i was wrong make that 50 + for education for us.....considerate smokers also.

[thomasale]

What if the 70% non-smokers were to decide as a group thay had enough of the smoke. That the 30% that smoke on the ships were not going to dictate how the rest of us cruise. We could put them all in dry-dock. It was so bad on the Adventure of the Seas ( 02/26/06) that we will not cruise until things change.

 

Wanna bet?

[thomasale]

Fortunately for me, as an ex smoker, I do not have the revulsion that some so obviously feel. I also realize that each of us have our own vices and I am glad that it is easy for me to overlook others. I hope everyone can find a way to overlook mine.

[tserface]

Why not compromise and have some non-smoking & smoking cabins available? It seems to work for hotels.

 

Tom

[sandiegojoe]

I'm an ocassional smoker. Normally, I smoke several cigars per week. On a cruise, I smoke 2 or 3 per day. I especially enjoy having a good cigar sometime after dinner in one of the lounges. I don't ever smoke in my cabin, but ocasionally on my balcony. I'm always courteous around others, and try not to bother anyone.

Personally, I would NEVER sail on a smoke free ship that does not allow smoking at all.

SanDiegoJoe

[donnaw]

Your premise doesn't work since you have forgotten a very major component of cruising.

 

Conventions and large groups comprise a larger and larger part of the cruising market each year. In most cases, convention organizers will not book non-smoking in deference to their smoking members. There will be exceptions but not many.

 

Same goes for large family/friend cruises. I am absolutely sure that my DMIL would never have gotten on the ship if it was no smoking. Therefore, it made no difference that the other 12 didn't smoke and not one of us would book a non-smoking cruise with her along!

[dmk]

Smokers and education

 

 

Adults with 16 or more years of education had the lowest smoking prevalence (11.3 percent). Adults with 9 to 11 years of education had higher smoking prevalence (36.8 percent) compared to adults with fewer or more years of education.

 

Smokers by socio-economic status

 

Smoking prevalence was higher among adults living below the poverty level (32.3 percent) than those living at or above the poverty level (23.5 percent).

 

As an X smoker I find the above highly insulting. Who is your source?

 

Wow, proud to be a Canadian!!

[GaryfmCol]

Smokers always claim it is their RIGHT to smoke.

And, I agree.

I could care less if they want to slowly kill

themselves....but, smoking interfers with my rights

to LIVE and, breath un-polluted air. I have cigarette smoke

allergies and, my sinus's shut close up when I am around

cigarette smoke...I have put up with this since I was a young lad.

 

I was always convinced that smokers were egotists

totally concerned for themselves, and, not for those around them.

IF I were a smoker, I would never

want to intrude on the lives of others...:rolleyes:

and, I would never smoke around those who do not

smoke.

 

As far as cruiseships go, I just wish the casinos

were smoke free...

In the state where I live, we just enacted a new law effective July 1st to go SMOKE FREE in all public places...except..

CASINOS....and, the airport smoke lounge.

Maybe we are making progress....:D

[Rence]

I am no longer a smoker, but Celebrity would lose a MINIMUM of 24% of passengers (number of people who smoke) which would actually be greater impact since there are a number of one smoker couples who would not cruise with X. This would probably eliminate at least 30% or so of potential cruisers. Can you say no way? Can you say financial suicide?

 

Even the most strict of cruise lines when it comes to smoking, Oceania, does allow smoking on the ships, although it is in very limited areas and not in staterooms.

 

Maybe in another 10 years or so, but not now.

 

Your numbers are a bit out of date, the latest figures that I saw was that just a hair over 20% of the US population now smokes, just read that recently 20.X%, did a quick search and couldn't find that stat, but I did find 22% stat from 2004. But it is still a significant enough portion of the population that cruiselines can't yet ignore it.

 

But your last line may be spot on. What this shows is that the percentage continues to decline after year. States that have enacted strong anti-smoking measures see a steep decline, the percentage of smokers in California is now 15%. Smoking is on the decline and likely to remain so. At some point, it won't make economic sense to cater to smokers.

 

Right now there are people who will not go on a cruise because the don't want to have to deal with smoke. They will choose smoke-free vacation options. This percentage isn't significant at this point but it is growing while the percentage of smokers is shrinking. At some point the balance will tip and a cruiseline will lose more business by allowing smoking than they would by banning it. Now whether this is two years away, ten years away or fifty years away, I don't know. But everything is trending in this direction and unless there is a dramatic change, it will happen at some point.

[Sky Sweet]

As an X smoker I find the above highly insulting. Who is your source?

 

Wow, proud to be a Canadian!!

 

Those statistics were from an American Cancer Foundation, but are similar to the following statistics from the American Heart Assocation.

 

"The American Heart Association reports additional smoking statistics that indicate that the lesser educated groups of America are more prone to higher percentages of smokers. For example, those with the least amount of education – those educated between 9-11 years – show that 35% of its masses smoke while the most educated group – those educated 16 or more years – show that just under 12% of its masses smoke cigarettes."

[Karynanne]

Those statistics were from an American Cancer Foundation, but are similar to the following statistics from the American Heart Assocation.

 

"The American Heart Association reports additional smoking statistics that indicate that the lesser educated groups of America are more prone to higher percentages of smokers. For example, those with the least amount of education – those educated between 9-11 years – show that 35% of its masses smoke while the most educated group – those educated 16 or more years – show that just under 12% of its masses smoke cigarettes."

 

Alright already...I'm not a smoker, and find this kind of post highly insulting to those that do smoke....

[suzeyQ]

I'm an ex-smoker as well and I'm not sure why anyone is insulted by those statistics. Any studies I've ever seen seem to show that smoking is more prevalent among lower-income/lesser educated people - what's insulting about that? The poster wasn't suggesting that everyone who smokes falls into those categories.

[thomasale]

I don't think she meant it insulting I think she was just stating that's the way it is...please...

[newmexicoNita]

What if the 70% non-smokers were to decide as a group thay had enough of the smoke. That the 30% that smoke on the ships were not going to dictate how the rest of us cruise. We could put them all in dry-dock. It was so bad on the Adventure of the Seas ( 02/26/06) that we will not cruise until things change.

I think you totally miss the point: even if only 25% smoke, you have groups that cruise together, smokers and non smokers. If even 2 or a group of 20 are not allowed to smoke, the remainder would find a ship that allowed smoking. I don't know the statistics but I am willing to bet the majority of smokers are over 40 years old and this is the majority of cruisers as well. My guess: in 10-20 years ships will be non smoking, but not for awhile. Carnival tried it: didn't work, one casino in Vegas tried it: went out of business: most casinos in our area have non smoking rooms of sections: they are not nearly as full as the smoking sections. NMNita

[newmexicoNita]

I am an ex smoker but my dh still smokes. He is considerate about it though - only smokes where its allowed.

 

Europeans still don't "get" that smoking wherever you want is rude. They don't look at it the same way. Even the non smokers shrug it off and will say their used to it. Its gross I know but to them its still much more accepted.

 

Eddie, if you never smoked you simply don't understand the addiction....the lighting one with another- its very powerful. I am quit for 7 years now, I run 3 miles a day- hate the smell of smoke in my hair or on my clothes or worst of all in a hotel rroom (that nasty stale smoke smell) but there are times, especially when cruising- after a big meal or with a cocktail- or sitting at a slot machine - that I will crave a cigarette.

 

My plan is when I hit 75 I am smoking again and eating whatever I want. Who cares at that point. If I have 10- 15 years left I won't deprive myself . ;-)

Great last paragraph; you make me laugh. Actually I rarely smoke, quit for 2 years, but moved to NM where I had too many friends from church (yes, church) Moose Lodge and Eastern Star that smoke so I smoke about pack a week or a little less. That is most of the time; set me down by the slot machine and chain smoke. It is the only time I just can't control myself. BTW I will hit 75 in 6 years, so I just cheated a few years. LOL

[newmexicoNita]

Smokers and education

 

Adults with 16 or more years of education had the lowest smoking prevalence (11.3 percent). Adults with 9 to 11 years of education had higher smoking prevalence (36.8 percent) compared to adults with fewer or more years of education.

 

Smokers by socio-economic status

 

Smoking prevalence was higher among adults living below the poverty level (32.3 percent) than those living at or above the poverty level (23.5 percent).

So you are saying those of us that smoke are uneducated and live in poverty? Well of course you aren't, but you can do anything you want with statistics; any educated person knows that!!!! NMNita