njcruisingmom Posted September 4, 2006 #1 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Does anyone know if HAL sails to the Carribbean in summer 2007? There's nothing on the web site, but I'm wondering if it just hasn't been posted yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted September 4, 2006 #2 Share Posted September 4, 2006 UNFORTUNATELY, NO...... Again in 2007, HAL will leave the Caribbean for a full six months of the year. No ships there between mid April and mid October. We really miss cruising in the Caribbean in the summer. We're now doing Canada/New England every summer as we want to cruise but don't want to return to Europe at the moment and have no interest in cruising Alaska. What we really enjoy most is cruising the Caribbean.....all four seasons of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobMartha Posted September 4, 2006 #3 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Sail WE AGREE. Just off the Statendam last week and asked the cruise consultant as well - any chance HAL will be returning in the future - she said not that she knew of.....so we are tentative to do Canada / NE next summer as well. Sail - are you booked for 07? If so - which sailing?:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted September 4, 2006 #4 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Sail WE AGREE. Just off the Statendam last week and asked the cruise consultant as well - any chance HAL will be returning in the future - she said not that she knew of.....so we are tentative to do Canada / NE next summer as well. Sail - are you booked for 07? If so - which sailing?:rolleyes: We are booked for the CC HAL group cruise June 23, 2007 and are staying aboard for back-to-backs June 30. Would you consider joining the group cruise that Host Doug has set up? He hasn't been around talking about it lately but he proposed it around mid July.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krazy Kruizers Posted September 4, 2006 #5 Share Posted September 4, 2006 No - it appears that HAL will not be returning to the Caribbean in the summer any time soon. HAL will have 4 ships in Europe for all the summer months:Prinsendam, Rotterdam, Veendam and Westerdam. The Maasdam will do a 35 day Transatlantic, the rest of the summer months she will do Canada/New England. All the other 8 ships will be Alaska. When the Veendam returns from Europe in the fall, she will do several Canada/New England cruises before moving to the Caribbean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candy Posted September 4, 2006 #6 Share Posted September 4, 2006 This really crimps our cruising style, too... we had a truly awful Caribbean Princess substitute and were drydocked out of our Celebration Bahamas cruise. We don't want to do Alaska, and Jim doesn't care to fly to the west coast. Waddayagonnado? Candy the ZuiderPrincess anxiously awaits Zuidy 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammybee Posted September 4, 2006 #7 Share Posted September 4, 2006 It is incumbent upon each cruise line to develop and service a niche to be profitable. HAL did not find sailing in the Caribbean in the summer to be profitable, given the competition. They can sail at 100% + capasity elsewhere, versus less than 100% in the Caribbean. This is why HAL is not in the Caribben in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted September 4, 2006 #8 Share Posted September 4, 2006 The fares for Canada/New England cruises are considerably higher than Caribbean fares......as are fares for Alaska and Europe cruises. That is why they leave the Caribbean for the spring/summer/fall. IMO ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobMartha Posted September 4, 2006 #9 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Sail We are looking at the 8/18 sailing out of Boston - with two DD's and their summer camp schedules August is the "family vacation" month for us. Actually in response to Hammy's post - that is exactly what the HAL cruise consultant said to me - that the Zuiderdam was not sailing at full capacity during its summer caribbean sailings = aka full profitability.... which is why they deployed their ships to alaska and europe. Sail I also agree - the Canada/NE sailing price was quite a " sticker shock" - even moving it over to our online ta with a discount it is still rather steep..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candy Posted September 4, 2006 #10 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Actually in response to Hammy's post - that is exactly what the HAL cruise consultant said to me - that the Zuiderdam was not sailing at full capacity during its summer caribbean sailings = aka full profitability.... which is why they deployed their ships to alaska and europe. If that's the case, couldn't they have left ONE ship in the Carib for us die-hard HAL lovers? Candy the ZuiderPrincess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce-r Posted September 4, 2006 #11 Share Posted September 4, 2006 If that's the case, couldn't they have left ONE ship in the Carib for us die-hard HAL lovers? They probably could, but since they can make more revenue sailing other destinations, HAL makes the choice the stockholders will like better. OR are you saying that you'd pay the same price HAL gets for their other summer cruises to cruise HAL in the Caribbean in the summer? Do you think others will also be willing to pay? I'm not trying to be a turd about it, but it really is about the money. I'd really like to sail HAL in the summer in the Caribbean too. But instead well be in the Caribbean in 2007 aboard the http://www.cuanlaw.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Islandbuoy Posted September 4, 2006 #12 Share Posted September 4, 2006 CCL is the owner and the boss. HAL ships have retractable covers and Carnival's don't. There's plenty of Carnival ships to cover the Carib in summer ( they even get to use half moon Cay). The new big ships of ccl can't go thru the Panama Canal to get to Alaska. Where would you put your ships?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted September 4, 2006 #13 Share Posted September 4, 2006 Many HAL cruisers do not sail Carnival. No attack necessary, please. Some don't sail Princess, Celebrity or any other cruiseline. DH and I only sail HAL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kryos Posted September 5, 2006 #14 Share Posted September 5, 2006 No - it appears that HAL will not be returning to the Caribbean in the summer any time soon.[/b] Right now this doesn't affect me, as I don't sail in the summertime any longer. However, come the day that it does, guess it presents an opportunity to try some other cruise lines ... because I will not spend good money to do an itinerary I am not interested in. Right now, Alaska and Canada/New England just doesn't appeal to me. On the subject of other cruise lines ... I hear Princess is going to start doing Hawaii sailings twelve months of the year. While Princess doesn't rank as high up there with me as HAL, for the right itinerary, I might be tempted to give them another try. I can see HAL backing out of the Caribbean during the worst period of hurricane season ... but for six months? Isn't that a bit of overkill? Blue skies ... --rita Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobMartha Posted September 5, 2006 #15 Share Posted September 5, 2006 Kryos I agree with you - we have never tried princess and are locked into cruising during the summer so the option of hawaii on princess is more appealing then ncl - where did you hear/read this and starting when? 07? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sail7seas Posted September 5, 2006 #16 Share Posted September 5, 2006 I can see HAL backing out of the Caribbean during the worst period of hurricane season ... but for six months? Isn't that a bit of overkill? Blue skies ... --rita JMHO.....But I don't think Hurricane season is more than a small factor in their pulling all ships from the Caribbean for six months. Maybe it's a small piece of the puzzle but not the primary reason. Selling the same cabin on the same ship for double the price by moving the ship North to New England is an impressive incentive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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