smoke free?

[dickensthedog]

Does anyone know if the Celebrity ships are smoke-free? Thanks!

[ECCruise]

Does anyone know if the Celebrity ships are smoke-free? Thanks!

 

Although there are designated smoking areas in public areas and no smoking in restaurants or lounges, the ships, including staterooms and balconies, are not smoke free.

[chessbriar]

None of them are and I wouldn't expect them to try it. Carnival tried it with a ship and it failed. I can't see any mass market ship banning it, but they will restrict it

[wvufan]

For the most part, folks respect the designated smoking areas. There are always idiots, but they can usually be ingnored or avoided. The biggest problem we encountered was in the casino. Even though there are supposedly non smoking areas, there are no barriers and smoke permeates the whole place. I always add my displeasure about this to my comment card, but I'm sure that the bigwigs still equate gambling with smoking. Times have changed, and I bet they would do just as well with either a non smoking time or separate area, but they didn't ask me so let them suffer!:D

 

I'm reminded of the expression: a smoking section in a room is like a peeing section in a swimming pool:D

 

OOOEEE:D :D Bob and Phyl

[Dolphins]

None of them are and I wouldn't expect them to try it. Carnival tried it with a ship and it failed. I can't see any mass market ship banning it, but they will restrict it

 

Carnival's former smoke-free ship Paradise did not "fail" due to any lack in popularity. The ship was always fully booked. The problem for Carnival was that the ship's revenues from the bars and casino was the lowest of any ship in their fleet. Evidently, non-smokers don't drink and gamble enough. This fact of life is confirmed when you walk through the bar or casino of any ship.

[chessbriar]

The problem for Carnival was that the ship's revenues from the bars and casino was the lowest of any ship in their fleet. Evidently, non-smokers don't drink and gamble enough. This fact of life is confirmed when you walk through the bar or casino of any ship.

Hence it failed.

 

Failure is not always about the number of pax. It's about the profitablity of the ship. On top of the low casino and bar number the per cabin price was lower than other ships in their fleets. They had to discount too much to get full ships.

[chessbriar]

The problem for Carnival was that the ship's revenues from the bars and casino was the lowest of any ship in their fleet. Evidently, non-smokers don't drink and gamble enough. This fact of life is confirmed when you walk through the bar or casino of any ship.

Hence it failed.

 

Failure is not always about the number of pax. It's about the profitablity of the ship. On top of the low casino and bar number the per cabin price was lower than other ships in their fleets. They had to discount too much to get full ships.

[superjerryw]

There currently are not any non-smoking ships. It seems that studies have been done and they have concluded that people that smoke are also more likely to gamble and to drink. Smokers therefore provide more revenue on a per person basis. Since most smokers adhere to whatever non-smoking guidelines there are on the ship, the cruise lines see no reason to ban smoking and give up all that extra revenue.

[andydee]

WVUfan

As an ex smoker, I hope that smokers are a lot more considerate of your shortcomings than you are of theirs.

Andy

[Dolphins]

Hence it failed.

 

Failure is not always about the number of pax. It's about the profitablity of the ship. On top of the low casino and bar number the per cabin price was lower than other ships in their fleets. They had to discount too much to get full ships.

 

The former Carnival Paradise was the most pleasurable "failure" I ever sailed on. A pity this noble experiment had to be sacrificed to the bottom line. I predict we have not seen the end of smoke-free cruise ships.

[wvufan]

Andydee,

 

What in the heck are you talking about? I never said anything inconsiderate of a smoker's shortcomings. In fact, I noted that for the most part they respect the smoking policy.

 

My comments were directed to casino policy, not smokers. I made a reference to "I bet they would do just as well [meaning profits in the casino]with either a non smoking time or separate area, but they didn't ask me so let them suffer:D [laugh included in original post] The "they" pronoun in that sentence referred to the last noun which was the bigwigs (management) who make policy concerning smoking in various areas such as the casino. The intent of my post was to suggest that they might make more money in the casino if they adjusted their smoking policy to provide a more separate area or perhaps a designated time for non smokers. My phrase "times have changed" refers to the fact that there are now more non smokers in groups or locations where smoking used to be the norm, including among those who might also wish to gamble. I closed by using a common expression ..."they didn't ask me so let them suffer"... which is usually used in a humorous tone to poke fun at upper management decision makers and their policies which seem absurd or at least seem to be contraindicated by common sense. The "suffer" referred to lost profits and that only. The laugh smilie should have indicated that there was no malice in that comment.

 

Just for the record, a few days ago I marked 20 years since my last cigarette. I had been smoking 2 packs a day. My dad died of throat cancer and my mom also had it but survived after considerable treatment.

 

Happy sails to you, and to all smokers and nonsmokers.

 

OOOEEE:D :D Bob and Phyl

[alcpa1]

Oceania has smoking limited to specified OUTDOOR areas and smoking is prohibited within the confines of the ship. You may want to check out European river cruises too. Other than the Russian voyages many of these small barges also restrict smoking to an outside deck.

[TenerifeSharon]

Weren't the Renaissance ships totally non-smoking? Unfortunately, they also did not survive! That's why X is getting Journey and Quest.

[dkjretired]

Weren't the Renaissance ships totally non-smoking? Unfortunately, they also did not survive! That's why X is getting Journey and Quest.

 

 

Yes, they were non-smoking and no children but they didn't survive for a whole bunch of reasons, not just the smoking and children issue which probably wasn't even the main reason.

[ECCruise]

Oceania has smoking limited to specified OUTDOOR areas and smoking is prohibited within the confines of the ship. You may want to check out European river cruises too. Other than the Russian voyages many of these small barges also restrict smoking to an outside deck.

 

Oceania ships do have an indoor smoking area in the rear of Horizon's lounge.

[10july86]

I am a nonsmoker and have found on most of our cruises (mainly on Princess) the smokers have been anything but curteous. When we sailed on Princess 2 years ago people were smoking outside of the entrance to the dining room and our table was at the entrance so we asked to have the oor closed so that we didn't have to smell the smoke as we ate. Last year on the Zenith to Bermuda there were several cigar smokers on the nonsmoking side one evening and someone nicely asked them to move to the smoking side. The smokers copped an attitude and moved away from us but not to the smoking side. I'm always uncomfortable asking smokers to move from the nonsmoking side even though it is my right to do so. I just wish they would be more watchful of the signs that tell them where smoking is allowed.

 

I must say that the smoking in lounges keeps me from going out at night on the ship. Although my husband said there is a nonsmoking area and it's not bad. But you have to walk through all of the smoke to get there.

 

Like I said, I am not a smoker and have never been one, I just wish people on both sides of the smoking issue would be more considerate of each other.

[kitty9]

Renaissance ships were non smoking and no kids but that wasn't only what ended their company. Ren decided they weren't going to allow travel agencies to sell their product, and then agencies sort of boycotted Ren. That, I believe, was the actual demise of the line.

 

Unfortunately, there are no ships that are completely smoke free.

[smj]

Sometimes the ships are smoked filled. Celebrity does not do a good job of enforcing their smoking policy.

[ATLfuzzy]

I know Celebrity does not have any nonsmoking rooms, but does it do any good for one to specify on their reservation that they are a nonsmoker? I wonder if they will make any special accomodations if you stress this, or is there really no need?

 

I think smokers have the right to do so, however I am highly sensitive to the odor, and dread the thought of being on a 12 night cruise (Millie; 17Aug07), in a room that smells of cigarettes.

 

Advice?? Thanks!

[Don Haynes]

As far as the casino goes, I can understand a non smoking section in the slot areas. One can easily get up and go outside playing the slots. However, in a card tournament, it is not convenient to go outside any time. Therefore, I present a compromise of no smoking area for the slots, and a smoking area for the card tables in a casino.

 

But most who wish for no smoking throughout the ship, even in staterooms and cabins, may be asking too much.

 

Hawaii recently passed no smoking laws in its hotel bars and lounges, and their Japanese tourists have dropped by twenty percent. If Walmart suffered a 20 percent drop in sales, it would most likely bankrupt them.

[land lover]

Just back from our first cruise on Celebrity, We were on the Galaxy and it is the first time in all the cruises I have been on and I was on 4 this year, that when we boarded the ship I smelled smoke. What was surprising on our cruise it really wasn't that bad in the Casino of course when I played the slots I sat in non-smoking but when I watched the card games it was not over powering, it was when I was on deck and people lighted up cigars that I was overwelmed.

 

Just my observation on my one Celebrity cruise. But, am I correct to say other lines have cigar rooms and request that all cigar smoking be done there?

[salty dingo]

Carnival's former smoke-free ship Paradise did not "fail" due to any lack in popularity. The ship was always fully booked. The problem for Carnival was that the ship's revenues from the bars and casino was the lowest of any ship in their fleet. Evidently, non-smokers don't drink and gamble enough. This fact of life is confirmed when you walk through the bar or casino of any ship.

 

Carnival could have easily offset the lower revenue from the non-smokers by raising the fare.

 

If non-smokers did not want to pay a higher fare to enjoy a smoke-free cruise, they would have less to complain about when they gag in the smoky casino!

 

I wish there were a smoke-free casino, but there is only one and we have to share with people who get nervous when risking money - smokers handle nervousness by puffing.

 

Bottom line, cruising = tolerating smoke. If you are sensive to that, best to avoid the casino and some bars.

[jobythebay]

We went on the Carnival Liberty last year and though the timing was bad (We had no kids and there were hundreds) the smoking was under control except for one bar and the casino.

[Spender Nui]

Renaissance ships were non smoking and no kids but that wasn't only what ended their company. Ren decided they weren't going to allow travel agencies to sell their product, and then agencies sort of boycotted Ren. That, I believe, was the actual demise of the line.

 

Unfortunately, there are no ships that are completely smoke free.

 

Yes, Ren initially did without TA's. Later they changed this policy. The actual demise of the line was 9/11.

[kitty9]

ATLfuzzy, it won't do one bit of good to tell the reservation agent you're a non-smoker. That makes absolutely difference to them. For what it's worth, I don't like the smell of stale smoke, but unlike in hotel rooms that allow smoking, I've never smelled stale smoke in any Celebrity cabin. They do a very good job of cleaning the cabin. Also, once you're in your cabin, if you do smell stale smoke, just tell your cabin steward/stewardess that you would like your cabin odor treated and they will do that for you.