Smoking on cruiseships

[Tannersgramp]

As a former 3 pack a day smoker I can understand the addictive power of smoking. But I also knew at the time that what I was doing was also bothering those around me. This included family, friends, and strangers. I knew that I stunk, I knew that I coughed and was out of breath after 1 flight of stairs.

 

There is nothing that is good about smoking.

 

It is the only product that if used exactly as intended, It will kill the user. I do not understand why we still have those that condone this. I understand those that are still in this addiction trying to justify their behaviour, but I dont understand how they can try to justify their negative affect on others.

 

Just my $.02

[cruiselover57]

I just read a "live from the Caribbean Princess" post from a woman who has an inside cabin that reeked of cigarette smoke, which I think is HORRIBLE for a guest to have to endure, and it makes me wonder why, in this day and age, with smoking banned in almost all closed public areas, the cruiselines even allow smoking in cabins?

 

I can see letting people smoke on balconies, on deck or outside in smoking allowed areas, but I really, really think that cigarette smoke is not something non-smokers should have to endure in their cabins, especially cabins without access to fresh air.

 

Are there cruiselines that don't allow smoking in the cabins? If so that is something I will keep in mind when booking next time, it hadn't occured to me until I read that thread.

 

Thoughts?

 

Hi Smart,

 

I totally dispise smoking myself. I'm glad though that I've never had a smoke smell in the cabin and agree with you 100% - there should be no smoking in ALL cabins! I also remember when they used to put ash trays in the cabins but they don't do that anymore. I remember a long time ago, they used to allow smoking in the dining room - us kids asked to sit separately from our parents because they wanted a smoking table!

 

Although some areas in the casino (like slots) are non-smoking, it still smells like you're in a smoking area!

[PhoneGoddess]

If my perfume can be smelled by anyone other than the man nibbling on my neck, I'm wearing too much. That's my standard -- if he can smell it without being pretty much "in my face," I wash it off. I try to apply that same standard to any odor I might produce or apply, and I appreciate it when others do, as well.

 

I have gotten out of the habit -- completely -- of using perfumes in the dining room (even at home) and in restaurants, because I don't want to take a chance that even a dot of it will compete with the flavor of the food we're all trying to enjoy.

 

MaryPoppinz,

That's a really good standard and greatly appreciated. Thank you!:)

[Twelvevman]

Perfume doesn't cause lung cancer like secondhand smoke does!

 

 

But your car's tailpipe does and I don't think you are ready to give up driving.

[bdjam]

If we got a room that had been smoked in...I would be pissed. I didn't even know people were allowed to smoke in the rooms. Now that I know I'm going to call Princess and make sure I don't have a room that's been smoked in. And the person on the live thread did have the room steward clean the carpets and change the bed sheets again and she said it still smelled like smoke. Not to mention that when you get home all your stuff smells like smoke... hair, luggage, clothes, souvenirs, etc. It's gross, not to mention some people can't breathe around smoke. And about the perfume, give me a break... perfume doesn't linger around for weeks.

Hmmm - could you report back as to the result of your conversation? I would think that given there is no smoking restriction in cabins that Princess would be hard-pressed to find a cabin that hasn't been occupied by smokers at one time or another. Good luck.

[flarad]

After eating my popcorn here's my 2 cents. I'm not a smoker but smoke doesn't really bother me. Here's the thing, ask anyone who was on the ship that had the fire last year about how they feel about people smoking in rooms. I believe they'll give you one answer - it's dangerous!

[bdjam]

After eating my popcorn here's my 2 cents. I'm not a smoker but smoke doesn't really bother me. Here's the thing, ask anyone who was on the ship that had the fire last year about how they feel about people smoking in rooms. I believe they'll give you one answer - it's dangerous!

I made mention of this above - the fire started on the balcony. The fire suppression systems in the cabins worked just fine and probably saved the ship.

[flarad]

I made mention of this above - the fire started on the balcony. The fire suppression systems in the cabins worked just fine and probably saved the ship.

Sorry, I must have missed it while chuckling over the intensity of this thread :p All I can say is it would take a lot of smoke to make me miserable on any cruise! Any day that I'm not at home and I can have the fresh breeze of sea air blowing in my room is a good day.

[akb5k]

AMEN AMEN!! Someone who finally GETS IT!!! Oh THANK YOU!!:D :D It's like society has decided that being born entitles one to perfect safety and everyone has bought this bill of goods and they're all ready to hand over any and all personal freedoms for the illusion of safety. And, of course, it's an illusion. NOT ONE OF US IS GETTING OUT OF HERE ALIVE!!! Yes, it DOES make Caribbean living look even more pleasant.

 

FYI- in regard to "Caribbean living" - as far as I know (I'm a doctor, not a legal expert!) St Martin has enacted a ban on smoking on public places like restaurants, I think it takes effect in January. Puerto Rico bans smoking in public spaces and in cars with children. St Lucia has been working on a smoking ban, not sure it's passed yet. I'm sure other islands are looking into it as well, particularly ones that follow European laws since many European countries prohibit smoking in public spaces.

I live in Washington state, which bans smoking in all public spaces (hotel rooms, restaurants, theaters,etc) including outdoors when within 25 feet of a building entrance. It hasn't affected business at restaurants and bars or sporting events, and it's wonderful for kids and for those of us who can't breathe around smoke. I grew up in Richmond VA, headquarters of Philip Morris, and I had a lot of trouble eating out at restaurants and would often have to leave. I have asthma and am particularly sensitive to smoke- it triggers bronchospasms and I literally can't get any air in my lungs. Not saying all smoking adults should have to quit, just be considerate (as most of them are) and realize that some of us really are affected by your habit, so please take it outside or away from crowded spaces.

Try to think if it as a public health issue, not a personal issue- we regulate air quality from car emissions, factory production, leaf burning, etc. You do have a right to choose to affect your own health, but it's not really fair to affect the people around you or tell them they have to leave so you can continue to smoke. Smoking is one of the few vices that affects others and is still legal- think about it, you've never gotten drunk from sitting next to someone who's drinking at a bar. And if that person drives drunk or exposes children to alcohol, we arrest them. Just my thoughts, I know a lot of people disagree.

[tawcat]

but, i guess all i have to say is sooner or later we'll all be buying oxygen in a bottle. if anyone were to research a report put out by thr Brits many years ago when this second hand smoke came up, they proved that the effects of second hand smoke is far less a risk then the air we breathe off of our streets. i agree, lets just ban everything! lets make a life a real challenge! lets see, if a can of beer says beer can be a health hazrad if you are pregnant or if you drive or operate machinery, yet we still have it everywhere, including cruise ships. yep, i say ban air, cuz it anin't good for you either!!!! suggestion, carry a can of lysol and spray the he** out of your room...oh wait, can't do that cuz the stuff that makes the can spray is killing our ozone! oh my what a tisey i'm in, what to do, what to do!

[bdjam]

Sorry, I must have missed it while chuckling over the intensity of this thread :p All I can say is it would take a lot of smoke to make me miserable on any cruise! Any day that I'm not at home and I can have the fresh breeze of sea air blowing in my room is a good day.

Agreed!

Try to think if it as a public health issue, not a personal issue- we regulate air quality from car emissions, factory production, leaf burning, etc. You do have a right to choose to affect your own health, but it's not really fair to affect the people around you or tell them they have to leave so you can continue to smoke. Smoking is one of the few vices that affects others and is still legal- think about it, you've never gotten drunk from sitting next to someone who's drinking at a bar. And if that person drives drunk or exposes children to alcohol, we arrest them. Just my thoughts, I know a lot of people disagree.

I think your thoughts are good ones, but I don't see that we do the policing you're suggesting. I don't think we regulate air quality from car or factory emissions to the point we should to ensure they are safe to breathe and we continue to send people to their deaths by putting them to work in unsafe conditions (think coal mines). We don't arrest drunk drivers and in fact many who are under the influence of alcohol kill others - driving or not. It's just become easy to point the finger at smokers and suggest that if they just quit (and as a doctor, you should know that's not easy) all will be right in the world for everyone else.

[Buffetman]

I agree there should not be smoking inside a cabin for safety reasons as well as smelly reasons. Hubby and I are both smokers, and when we stay at a hotel or cruise we never smoke in the cabin or a hotel room. At home we only smoke outside. I can't imagine how smoky it would get after 7 days of no fresh air in there with 2 of us smoking. The least the cruiseships should do is offer smoking or non-smoking cabins at time of reservations.

 

Well said and thanks for being conscientous and considerate and aware of safety concerns :)

[tawcat]

there was a statement made a long time ago, went something like this: " if one day, everyone woke up and found everyone equal in every way, by noon of the same day we would find something to be prejudice about."

 

i concur with bdjam, if you think by everyone quitting smoking the worlds gonna be right, you really haven't been waking up and smelling that morning coffee!!!:D

[bdjam]

i concur with bdjam, if you think by everyone quitting smoking the worlds gonna be right, you really haven't been waking up and smelling that morning coffee!!!:D

Or the cigarette smoke ;) :D

[PlanoDebbie]

None of the ships will ever go completely smoke-free. That being said, it would be nice if they would be able to designate at least 20% or more as needed of their cabins as Non-smoking for those people who have health issues. They need to meet the needs of both populations. I don't smoke myself, but my brother and sister both do, so I always try to think about their needs as well.

[BeachBumMama]

So how do ya'll feel about after a day of sun - in the towel saved lounge chair and putting the diapered baby in the pool - going back to the room and having a drink from the smuggled booze you brought onboard, then donning the jeans and going to the dining room for dinner? With the crying baby and the rest of the kids of course.:D

 

Smoking is an issue people will never see eye to eye on.

[lawyerrose]

but, i guess all i have to say is sooner or later we'll all be buying oxygen in a bottle. if anyone were to research a report put out by thr Brits many years ago when this second hand smoke came up, they proved that the effects of second hand smoke is far less a risk then the air we breathe off of our streets. i agree, lets just ban everything! lets make a life a real challenge! lets see, if a can of beer says beer can be a health hazrad if you are pregnant or if you drive or operate machinery, yet we still have it everywhere, including cruise ships. yep, i say ban air, cuz it anin't good for you either!!!! suggestion, carry a can of lysol and spray the he** out of your room...oh wait, can't do that cuz the stuff that makes the can spray is killing our ozone! oh my what a tisey i'm in, what to do, what to do!

 

Hey, pssst, tawcat . . . Did you know they've finally figured it out . . . LIVING is the major cause of death!!! :eek: Don't tell anybody . . .

[Pam in CA]

My ex- smoked 3 - 4 packs of cigarettes a day and since then, I developed sensitivity to it so that I feel sick at the smell of smoke. I occasionally experience a hotel room that is so bad I have to ask to change but I've never been in a cabin with the smell of smoke. Believe me, I would have smelled it if it'd been there. I really don't think that the smell of smoke in cabins is a big concern since cruise ships seem to be much better at changing or cleaning the softgoods to eliminate the smell/odor.

[Cruisin' Chick]

One of our favorite cruises was on the non-smoking Paradise. It wasn't that they couldn't find enough people to book it: it was that Carnival felt non-smokers as a group tend not to spend as much in the casino and at the bar. Unfortunately, Carnival didn't market it very well -- they could have sold it out every cruise by marketing it to families and older folks who would love to enjoy a clean air cruise. We told many people about it and they didn't know there was such a cruiseship. And Carnival didn't move the ship around enough. If they had moved it to the West Coast as a non-smoking ship, there would have been a lot of happy cruisers here. My hubby said we would have booked it for a west coast cruise in a second if it was still non-smoking. It was so nice to move around a ship without smelling that awful smell of tobacco. And the passengers were the most nicest we ever sailed with -- in the best mood.

 

That said, we have not had a single problem (fingers crossed) with a smelly cabin on any cruise we've been on. So maybe we haven't followed a group of smokers or else we've had cabin stewards who've used that spray. But we don't book balconies -- we would hate to spend the extra money and then be smoked out by someone smoking nearby.

[mike35]

It's as simple as this smokers stink like smoke there clothes there car the rooms thay stay in there hair smoke gets onto every thing stink stink stink!!!

 

now how immature was that;)

 

Based on the grammatical mistakes, the immaturity level would appear to be around 2nd grade.

 

Mike

[liv4dalord]

We were in a inside room last Nov for 11 nights and both my DH & I were smokers then I brought along some stuff called OZIUM I heard about it reading posts before our last cruise. It worked wonderful my dh & I did not smoke in our house for the last seven years but we smoke in our cabin on the ship I would spray OZIUM periodically while in the cabin and then spray super good when we wre going out and you could not smell the stale smoke smell I ordered the stuff online but I later found it in the automotive dept. at walmart. My DH quit smoking 12-15-06 and I quit 1-23-07 after smoking for 33 years:eek:

[Vanilla]

I could not resist the urge to respond to this since I detest cigarette/cigar smoking. I do think they should have a designated area for those that want to smoke... the cigar bar for one, and then one side of the ship - that way people can avoid those areas that find it disgusting. I think it is unfair that people smoke in their rooms (the next guests may not like the smell of it), you may fall asleep or pass out drunk and start a fire, and I think its unfair for people to smoke on their balconies...if I am next door to your balcony and you are smoking - I am gonna smell it, which is why I always carry my squirt bottle of vinegar and spray you across the balcony wall so you can smell the stink and get it on your clothes as well.:D . Also, people who smoke with children in their homes or cars or make them sit in a place for smokers are child abusers. Why should you be allowed to give a small child cancer? You have already decided you want it - but your small child might not. By the way - I do appreciate you smokers that are nice enough to realize that not everyone wants to smell like smoke and be exposed to it.

[PescadoAmarillo]

That said' date=' we have not had a single problem (fingers crossed) with a smelly cabin on any cruise we've been on. ...But we don't book balconies -- we would hate to spend the extra money and then be smoked out by someone smoking nearby.[/quote']

 

We didn't have a problem either, and I used to say it could never happen, until cruise #19, and then we ended up having to change cabins, it was so bad (despite everything our steward sprayed, and the air cleaner they ran in our cabin). So now I know to keep my fingers crossed. And we're the same way...a balcony only occasionally, and when I step out on it the first time and smell cigarette or cigar smoke, and then have to keep my door closed from then on, I wished I saved my money.

[tawcat]

stop you're killing me!!!!!!!!!!!:D :) :D :)

[Dixe Lee]

If we got a room that had been smoked in...I would be pissed. I didn't even know people were allowed to smoke in the rooms. Now that I know I'm going to call Princess and make sure I don't have a room that's been smoked in. And the person on the live thread did have the room steward clean the carpets and change the bed sheets again and she said it still smelled like smoke. Not to mention that when you get home all your stuff smells like smoke... hair, luggage, clothes, souvenirs, etc. It's gross, not to mention some people can't breathe around smoke. And about the perfume, give me a break... perfume doesn't linger around for weeks.

 

Interesting that you say if you got a room that had been smoked in......chances are that you have. Funny that some say that they can't breathe around perfume. I can't breathe around smelly people and I'm not talking about cigarette smoke OR perfume.