mpk Posted August 12, 2004 #1 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Princess really exceeded my expectations in the dining room on every meal. Things went wonderfully, except one evening when the waiter pushed for a wine order no less than *four* times in a row. I clearly declined each time, letting him know that everyone at the table is dry. Sometimes, there is a language issue. That was not the case this time. The waiter heard and understood me. I know this because he countered me with stuff that I hadn't experienced since a rather funny visit to a new car dealer many years ago. So we went back and forth. He finally offered a weak apology, saying that he was simply "doing his job". Our party was not rude at any time, realizing that we did not want "waiter's revenge" in our food for the evening. We couldn't really walk out either, since that is our dining room for the week. The waiter even left the wine menu on the table "in case I change my mind". I later politely handed him the wine menu. He took it, but still left the empty wine goblets for the rest of the evening. Finally, at desert, when someone at the table ordered chocolate ice cream with chocolate chips, he said that we could only order desserts that were on the menu. Hmmm.... that is strange. That same dessert had been ordered five evenings prior and delivered without any fuss. I am at a loss for understanding why the waiter pushed so hard for booze. I intently observed the tables around us on that same night. When they declined alcohol, and the wine menu and goblets were removed without any resistance. I could only observe two of the tables around me. Now, we're a merry bunch, not a hard crowd to handle at all. We're not the terror that retail people cringe at, nor do we raise a ruckus. I'm confident that the rest of the staff didn't have an issue with us. I realize that the staff is paid to be friendly, but even at port when we ran into dining room staff in civilian clothes, they recognized and greeted us on their own time. One even hung out with us for a bit. At the table, we discussed our options. We figured, hey we'll just fill out that green comment card at the table. Wait- we mysteriously don't have a green card at this table. Strange coincidence. I figure that the waiters and junior waiters that are confident of their service pre-fill out their names and leave the green card at the table. Others, like this fellow, are probably not as confident. On my way out, I was going to get a green card to fill out, but decided not to. I have never complained about a person before, and I understand that saying that only 1 out of 100 dissatisfied customers complain. I just did not want to relive the problem, nor get my blood pressure raised yet again by complaining about the problem. Heck, I was on vacation! Why write about this now? I wanted to find out if there is a way I can still lodge a comment of that server post cruise. Is it possible, or is it a "forget about" situation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARGIN Posted August 12, 2004 #2 Share Posted August 12, 2004 What ship and when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruiseryyc Posted August 12, 2004 #3 Share Posted August 12, 2004 I probably would have had a quiet word with the Head Water or Maitre 'D as I left the dining room. But wouldn't have made a huge production out of it, there are worse things to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdjam Posted August 12, 2004 #4 Share Posted August 12, 2004 I probably would have had a quiet word with the Head Water or Maitre 'D as I left the dining room. I agree – sending a letter to the cruise line now will do little for the situation. Princess – the corporate office – wants you to be happy. If you had talked to the Head Waiter or Matre’d immediately and constructively and politely explained your position, something would have been done to make you feel better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongerob Posted August 12, 2004 #5 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Was this Anytime or Traditional? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted August 12, 2004 Author #6 Share Posted August 12, 2004 What ship and when? This was on the Dawn Princess 8/2/04, northbound Alaska. Personal Choice dining, Florentine dining room. Pepe, the Florentine maitre d', was superb. His staff at Florentine is so good that is easier to talk about the one bad apple than the good ones. I agree – sending a letter to the cruise line now will do little for the situation. Princess – the corporate office – wants you to be happy. If you had talked to the Head Waiter or Matre’d immediately and constructively and politely explained your position, something would have been done to make you feel better. I see that you're right. I agree that for a problem like this, an on the spot complaint is appropriate. Even for those of us worried about waiters revenge, a green card filled out on the last day of the cruise would have worked. Now that it is post cruise, cie la vie. All in all, a wonderful cruise. As for the brawny waiter- I hope it was simply a bad day. We all have one once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARGIN Posted August 12, 2004 #7 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Well we all have bad days... As for the waiter, I have found that a stern look and a firm "no" usually does the trick and if that didn't work, I would have a quick talk to the Head Waiter.. He would have made things right.. If not, the Maitre' D would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BJS Posted August 12, 2004 #8 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Why write about this now? I wanted to find out if there is a way I can still lodge a comment of that server post cruise. Is it possible, or is it a "forget about" situation? Comments both positive and negative are very important for Princess crew members and their employment. It is unfortunate you did not do this on the ship but if you know the servers name the comment can be sent to Princess corporate along with the cruise # and ship. Without his name probably would not do any good to write the letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smudge's mom Posted August 12, 2004 #9 Share Posted August 12, 2004 Maybe this particular waiter was getting grief from management because he was not selling his "quota" of wine. Or do waiters get a "bonus" from management for every bottle of wine that is ordered? Otherwise I don't understand why you would want to "tick off" pax with an overly hard sell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARGIN Posted August 13, 2004 #10 Share Posted August 13, 2004 Maybe this particular waiter was getting grief from management because he was not selling his "quota" of wine. Or do waiters get a "bonus" from management for every bottle of wine that is ordered? Otherwise I don't understand why you would want to "tick off" pax with an overly hard sell. There is an automatic 15% gratuity added to the price of a bottle of wine of which half goes to the waiter and the other half to the tip pot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkorman Posted August 13, 2004 #11 Share Posted August 13, 2004 True, sales of alcohol can also get you placed in more desirable areas on the ship as well. So there is the monetary and working conditions for selling. That being said, I hate being bothered and agree you guy stepped over the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starsjohn Posted August 13, 2004 #12 Share Posted August 13, 2004 Here is another case why I think Princess should bring back the wine stewards. It has more class and in this instance, would not have affected the table waiter - pax relationship. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crowsie Posted August 13, 2004 #13 Share Posted August 13, 2004 Our party was not rude at any time, realizing that we did not want "waiter's revenge" in our food for the evening. We once had a wait team the didn't really gel. On one evening it took over 45 minutes before we got our entree...when we inquired the head waiter blamed it on the assistant waiter and vice versa. Not a good situation. So we mentioned to the maitre'd that it took so long to get our entree....we weren't complaining...just wanted him to know. Well....the maitre'd must have chewed them out pretty well because they were very "cool" to us the rest of the trip. So, I understand your reluctance to engage in "waiter's revenge" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARGIN Posted August 13, 2004 #14 Share Posted August 13, 2004 another reason for PC dining.. You can always move to another table.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted August 13, 2004 Author #15 Share Posted August 13, 2004 PC dining and automatic tipping worked out great. We additionally tipped in cash on top of the automatic tip for two of the room stewards, and a waiter. I do wish that I could have zero tipped the burly waiter only. Everyone else was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillB Posted August 14, 2004 #16 Share Posted August 14, 2004 Princess really exceeded my expectations in the dining room on every meal. Things went wonderfully, except one evening when the waiter pushed for a wine order no less than *four* times in a row. I clearly declined each time, letting him know that everyone at the table is dry. Can still lodge a comment of that server post cruise. Is it possible, or is it a "forget about" situation? Princess does not have sommeliers? How odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARGIN Posted August 14, 2004 #17 Share Posted August 14, 2004 Princess does not have sommeliers? How odd. They stopped this many many years ago... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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