Disney Magic has not lowered drinking age in MED

[dforeigner]

And it is Disney that had an assault of a passenger by another and also had a castmember that exposed themselves to three other passengers. So I am not sure to which higher standard you are referring or what you meant by the above statement.

 

You are right here. Although I cannot post the source (CC Rules), DCL has a rather high number incidents of guest sex crimes committed by employees than any other American based cruise line.

[metrowon]

So you can fight for your country, and vote at eighteen. So where does it say you can drink alcohol? If your friends are so dissapointed, why are they even going on Disney? Some cruise lines have no smoking rules, and I'm over twenty one, have voted in numerous elections, and have elected not to cruise on those lines. The way things are going about this and that, it won't be long before McDonald's has a scale you have to get on before you, SUPERSIZE IT. And who says the EUROPEANS are correct about their drinking age? Your not going to find much sympathy for your friends teenage drinkers on this forum. Right or wrong, it's Disney, and I'll cruise with them. There will be no policy change, and if your friends choose to give their teenagers alcohol, while on-board, Disney security will handle it. Metrowon

[metrowon]

The bottom line is that nobody wants a bunch of drunk 18-20 year olds runnig around the ship. If being able to drink is a major factor for a kid, he/she should just take another ship. Besides, since the American kids can't drink (legally) at home, I'd be worried that they would go hog wild when given the chance on the boat. I don't want my 3 year old exposed to that. Yes, I know there is nothing stopping a 30 year old for getting sloppy drunk but I'll take my chances on that.

Our family has cruised 28 day's over the last 4 years on Disney. We personally have not seen one teenager drunk in public, and or really high on something. Just a bunch of Great Young Adults. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen, we just have not experianced it. I think Disney security is on top of alot of unseen stuff, as we haven't even seen an adult sloppy drunk. Don't do Carnival during Senior week! Metrowon

[metrowon]

You are right here. Although I cannot post the source (CC Rules), DCL has a rather high number incidents of guest sex crimes committed by employees than any other American based cruise line.

What source? You really need to check your sources. Nice try at trying to trash Disney Cruise Lines. You and Flagger, are really something. Can't drink underage, and now sex crimes by DCL employees, higher rate than other lines. Metrowon

[metrowon]

Okay, maybe I've missed something..why would someone UNDER 21 be allowed to drink anyway???

Just flagger, trying to trash Disney's policys. Metrowon

[Cruisin' Ron VA]

RCL allows 18-20 year old to drink with parental consent on those ships departing Europe or South American ports.

 

So cancel Disney and sail RCI. :rolleyes:

 

Your "friends" booked the most family friendly cruise line on the planet and they are going to complain that children cant drink on board the ship? :eek:

 

Did they know this policy BEFORE or AFTER they booked?

 

I drink, but I dont have to drink to have a good time.

 

If their parents are going to sneak booze on board to give to their children (as you stated) thats up to them. I guess its better to raise kids to think its ok to just ignore rules that they dont agree with than to teach them right from wrong. LOL.

 

I already have in my head your reply to my reply but dont worry I can take it. ;)

[dforeigner]

What source? You really need to check your sources. Nice try at trying to trash Disney Cruise Lines. You and Flagger, are really something. Can't drink underage, and now sex crimes by DCL employees, higher rate than other lines. Metrowon

 

Do a search for crimes at sea on board cruise lines. I am not bashing DCL but simply stating facts. I am not invoking underage drinking. I am a strong believer in adhering but the cruise line's policies. I never stated DCL as having higher crime rates when comparing to other lines. But for a cruise line geared toward family and kids in general, yes sex crimes on board DCL are rather high.

 

Here http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=555584 you will find a link to an article and inside that article there is another link to another article where it lists all the reported incidents on board cruise lines.

[Host Mick]

Do a search for crimes at sea on board cruise lines. I am not bashing DCL but simply stating facts. I am not invoking underage drinking. I am a strong believer in adhering but the cruise line's policies. I never stated DCL as having higher crime rates when comparing to other lines. But for a cruise line geared toward family and kids in general, yes sex crimes on board DCL are rather high.

 

Here http://boards.cruisecritic.com/showthread.php?t=555584 you will find a link to an article and inside that article there is another link to another article where it lists all the reported incidents on board cruise lines.

 

Could it be that perps on DCL are caught more often?

Statistics can be misleading.

[dforeigner]

Could it be that perps on DCL are caught more often?

Statistics can be misleading.

 

Most of these criminal stats are based on complaints from the victims. Though you do bring up rather valid point here.

[Host Mick]

I agree. Although Royal Caribbean has raised their drinking age from 18 with parental consent to 21 regardless of consent. Maybe Carnival allows 18 year olds to drink?

 

I don't drink anyway so it doesn't affect me.

 

Maybe Carnival isn't the best example here. The last ...and only time that I went on a Carnival cruise, there were drunken adults all over as well as drunken teens. It was pretty ugly.

[Jumbiecruiser]

Maybe you should find another cruise line to book if Disney doesn't conform to your way of thinking like allowing minors to drink and requiring that one tip. If I remember many of your posts on the Celebrity board, you do not believe in tipping either.

[runnerandme]

If the family does not like Disney's policy, then the solution is very simple. Don't cruise with Disney. It shows very poor parental judgement to disreguard policy and sneak the alcohol to the underage children. It does not matter if they are of legal age to drink in Europe, they will be on Disney and should abide by their policies and not drink onboard. We need to teach our children that they can't ignore rules just because they don't like them. I know , I know flame away...

 

Connie

[dforeigner]

If the family does not like Disney's policy, then the solution is very simple. Don't cruise with Disney. It shows very poor parental judgement to disreguard policy and sneak the alcohol to the underage children. It does not matter if they are of legal age to drink in Europe, they will be on Disney and should abide by their policies and not drink onboard. We need to teach our children that they can't ignore rules just because they don't like them. I know , I know flame away...

 

Connie

 

In my opinion, there is no need for any flaming. Your statement is objective and to the point. You have covered all angles here. In Europe, 18 and over are allowed to drink. As in many other countries. Disney has their own policy (as the saying goes, when in Rome...) and people should either agree to those policies or find another line that meets their needs/ desires, etc. I do feel for the OP friend's predicament. But as you stated, if the means here do not meet their needs, find service elsewhere.

[cruiserbryce]

If they are old enough to vote and old enough to go to war, I say let them buy a drink.

 

well then maybe we should re think the voting thing:) I am sure you would love to be the responsible adult monitoring the consumption of a group of 18 year olds...I still think this was the right decsion, it is what it is and they aren't likely to change it

[haredi]

As a parent of three young kids going on a Med Disney Cruise in a few weeks, I am actually glad Disney has chosen this route. The last thing my kids need are a bunch of drunk teenagers running around the ship. It may make sense for those who live in Europe to lower the age, but for those who come from the US, its party time because they are not used to the open availibility. If it is that important to some people, as these threads suggest, choose another cruise line.

[Host Mick]

well then maybe we should re think the voting thing:) I am sure you would love to be the responsible adult monitoring the consumption of a group of 18 year olds...I still think this was the right decsion, it is what it is and they aren't likely to change it

 

I agree. 18 year olds can make some foolish decisions at the ballot box. I'll even admit that I voted for Jimmy Carter when I was 18.

[S.S.Oceanlover]

Our family has cruised 28 day's over the last 4 years on Disney. We personally have not seen one teenager drunk in public, and or really high on something. Just a bunch of Great Young Adults. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen, we just have not experianced it. I think Disney security is on top of alot of unseen stuff, as we haven't even seen an adult sloppy drunk. Don't do Carnival during Senior week! Metrowon

 

Why single out Carnival? Any mass market line is pretty much the same during spring break.:rolleyes:

 

Bill

[98Charlie]

Why single out Carnival? Any mass market line is pretty much the same during spring break.:rolleyes:

 

Bill

I think that one reason Carnival gets singled out is the number of short cruises (<7 night) that they have. For Around $300 PP you can get a 5 night Western Caribbean next year that leaves on a Monday.

 

You can drive from the frozen north, take the cruise, and be back to school the following Monday.

 

The need for passports (whenever it really goes in to effect) may slow down some of the first timers by adding an extra 100 bucks to the total. But, in the long run, it is a very attractive "Spring Break Party Cruise".

 

Carnival also has the most ships at sea and generally very competitive pricing.

 

We do tend to avoid the peak spring break period when choosing our cruises. However, when we have had breakers on board, we have never had a problem.

 

Charlie

[Gator Dad]

Our family has cruised 28 day's over the last 4 years on Disney. We personally have not seen one teenager drunk in public, and or really high on something. Just a bunch of Great Young Adults. Doesn't mean it doesn't happen, we just have not experianced it. I think Disney security is on top of alot of unseen stuff, as we haven't even seen an adult sloppy drunk. Don't do Carnival during Senior week! Metrowon

 

Exactly! That is becasue they could not drink. Do you really think those "Great Young Adults" would have been so great after a couple of beers? I would think it would take a 110lb 18 year old girl only 2 to 3 drinks before she shows everyone what she had for dinner.

[latterdayesther]

Good for Disney. Enough Said.

 

All I can add is "Amen!" :D

Esther

[waltd]

You go girl!!!!!

 

Joe :)

[Sarah's Dad]

It is sad that this subject is so important. We go for the family experience and all the pixie dust that comes with it. I guess there are a lot of people that just can't have fun without alcohol regardless of age.

[Sarah's Dad]

Yes, they will probably lose a lot of money, it adds a lot to their revenue. Wonder if that is another reason why they charge more than other mass market lines?

 

Another contributing factor is the lack of casinos which I am grateful that they don't have, but that is a debate for another day.

 

I am really not partial to any of the common vices like gambling, drinking or smoking and the funny thing is I am not that religious so go figure.

 

I just prefer more wholesome entertainment

[Host Mick]

Another contributing factor is the lack of casinos which I am grateful that they don't have' date=' but that is a debate for another day.

 

I am really not partial to any of the common vices like gambling, drinking or smoking and the funny thing is I am not that religious so go figure.

 

I just prefer more wholesome entertainment[/quote']

 

Disney doesn't base it's fares on what it costs to operate the cruise line, they base their fares on the maximum amount that they can charge and still nearly fill the ship.

The presence or absence of casino revenue or their selling drinks to 18-20 year olds will have nothing to do with the fares that they charge. It's all about demand.

[98Charlie]

Disney doesn't base it's fares on what it costs to operate the cruise line, they base their fares on the maximum amount that they can charge and still nearly fill the ship.

The presence or absence of casino revenue or their selling drinks to 18-20 year olds will have nothing to do with the fares that they charge. It's all about demand.

Hi Mickey,

 

I agree that pricing has a lot to do with demand. It is the same with all lines. We usually sail the week after Thanksgiving when demand is low and a cabin can be close to ½ the price of Thanksgiving week.

 

But, at the end of the day, isn't it also about showing a profit? If a cruise line avoids some revenue sources like gambling or under 21 alcohol sales they will have to make some adjustments to make sure that there is money on the bottom line.

 

Just some thoughts,

 

Charlie