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NCTribeFan

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Back when I was much younger, there were mostly just two martinis - one with gin, dry vermouth, and an olive or a twist of lemon peel. The other was a vodka martini.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martini_(cocktail)

 

I consider a martini to be a drink made from gin. The others, I just think of as a cocktail - too sweet and fruity for my tastes.

 

I'm no martini snob. Like I said, I rarely drink them because they knock me on my butt!

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L2J

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I consider a martini to be a drink made from gin. The others, I just think of as a cocktail - too sweet and fruity for my tastes.

 

 

We all know how much the ladies enjoy thier cocktails.:rolleyes:

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WeBeCruisin'

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I'm thinkin prolly not. Mornin doll.:D

 

Martinis? You rang?:D

 

A martini is a drink consisting of gin, vermouth and a garnish. Some purists allow a drop or two of orange bitters. The garnish is usually either an olive or a lemon twist, although many like their ofives stuffed with bleu cheese, anchovies, garlic, jalapenos, etc. Capers and tomolives are also acceptable.

 

Anything else is NOT a martini. :eek: The others are cocktails served in a martini glass. There's a very "puritst" website called Zigy's Martini Lounge which had a contest a few years back to name these faux martinis. The winner was the term "martinot" (my submission.... yay!) and that term sort of took over.

 

Gin is basically vodka with anywhere from 10 to 25 "botanicals" (herbal flavors) added. The primary addition is juniper..... the Dutch (who invented gin) word for juniper is "ginever". Gin has a lot of flavor and good gin will leave a tingling "burn" on your lips and tongue.

 

Vodka has far less flavor and is usually preferred by martini novices and most women, because it's milder and, in a martinot, the frou-frou aspects cover up the taste of the gin, leaving the primary taste to be chocolate, raspberries, caramel, creme brulee, etc.

 

A "Dirty Martini" is a good "starter" martini, since gin is definitely an acquired taste. Because it includes a teaspoon of olive brine, the gin flavor is masked.

 

On the Conquest (the Liberty's sister ship) last October, I don't remember an ice/martini display in the lobby, and there was no official martini bar, but the wine bar, jazz/cigar lounge, and just about all of the other bars could make any martini you could think of. One night, in the jazz lounge, the Russian bartender treated me to a free double martini in honor of something to do with red thong panties. The details are vague. :)

 

The classic and specialty martinis are quite large.... all would qualify as doubles and cost no more than what you'd pay in any decent lounge or restaurant at home.

 

As for being too old to drink "real" martinis, I have to say that I'm older than petrified dinosaur dookie, and I'm very fortunate to have no difficulties in mass-consuming good martinis.

 

As for shaken versus stirred, it's a matter of personal taste. The object of a great martini is to have it as cold as possible. Some people even store their gin and martini glasses in the freezer. The vermouth will freeze, so it has to stay in the main part of the fridge. Shaking should be done in a stainless steel shaker because it conducts cold better. The stirring advocates, though, insist that stirring "bruises" the gin, although there's no proof such a thing can occur. The debate intensified once James Bond uttered his famous "Shanken, not stirred" line.

 

Ironically, the "James Bond martini" is actually not a true martini. It's called The Vesper (after his love-interest in Casino Royale) and is made with two or three parts of gin, one part of vodka, one part of French Lillet blonde vermouth, and a lemon twist. They're truly delicious, though, even if they're not "true" martinis.

 

The martini is the original "silver bullet". It glistens in the glass like silver and hits you like a bullet. Coors and Bob Seger "appropriated" the term. :)

 

Dorothy Parker said of the martini:

 

• I like to have a martini,

Two at the very most.

After three I'm under the table,

after four I'm under my host.

 

If you want to play with The Big Boys, Zigy's Martini Lounge is a very interesting site, with tons of information about martinis in general and their history and preparation, with many links to other sites.

 

I am including a link to the message board. To view the other categories just go to "Home".

 

http://pub27.ezboard.com/fzigysmartiniloungefrm2

 

Allen

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NCTribeFan

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You calling us women lightweights when it comes to martinis? Huh? Are ya?

 

IF I'm going to drink one, I'll drink the real thing, thank you!

 

:p

 

And I've already admitted I'm a lightweight, but it isn't because I dislike the taste of gin. Just because I don't drink much these days.

 

After living with an Englishman for years, drinking those very, very strong gin & tonics (with lemon, not lime, so refreshing!), I rather acquired a taste for the stuff.

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WeBeCruisin'

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okay, i have only had 2 types of martinis: apple and cosmopolitan.

 

are these even considered "real" martinis?

 

Words are constantly chaning in America. When I was a kid, in the South when you asked for a coke in a restaurant, the waitress would say "what kind?" and you'd answer with "Nehi Grape, or Orange Crush, or RC Cola" or something like that.

 

The word "martini" is in the process of performing that process in reverse... going from a spefic word to a generic one.

 

It's all good... and it is what it is... :cool:

 

Allen

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Words are constantly chaning in America. When I was a kid' date=' in the South when you asked for a coke in a restaurant, the waitress would say "what kind?" and you'd answer with "Nehi Grape, or Orange Crush, or RC Cola" or something like that.

 

The word "martini" is in the process of performing that process in reverse... going from a spefic word to a generic one.

 

It's all good... and it is what it is... :cool:

 

Allen[/quote']

 

LOL, i also had a fake margarita sat night, banana. it was good. but, it was promptly chased by beer.:D :p

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WeBeCruisin'

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You calling us women lightweights when it comes to martinis? Huh? Are ya?

 

.

 

No Ma'am! Sir, no Sir!

 

I'm sure the proclivity of most (not all!) women to prefer vodka as a base for "martinis" is because of evil and insidious and invidious programming and brain-washing by satanic advertisers, corrupt media, and evil role-models on television and movies.

 

There are, of course, a few strong, brilliantly intelligent, women such as yourself, of course, who refuse to be anyone's subject or plaything.:p

 

Allen

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We're booked on our 1st Carnival cruise on Glory in April - does anyone know if there is a specific Martini Bar? BF loves to tell the tale of attending a Martini Clinic on NCL - does anyone know if Carnival does this also (tastings of multiple martoonis)? The ice luge sounds amazing!

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truecruiser

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Allen I'm not sure I understood your dissertation...would you mind repeating that? Please and thank you :p

 

LMAO!:D

 

no, allen. don't.

 

liv, it's all part of the master plan, don'tchaknow? this is intended to not to be deciphered by some.:p

 

c'mon, catch up!:p

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GoinCruisin

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The BT at the local establishment made a Martini with chocolate drizzled in the glass, with a cherry stuck in the bottom, and made withe vodka and something else, just wondering if anyone has seen this on Carnival.

 

Jess, tell Lyn to stick with me and I'll take care of her :p The standard chocolate martini on Carnival isn't good, but I always find a good bartender, describe how I want it made, and for the rest of the week they are perfect!! Also, the washington apple martini (can't do the green apple martini... gag) is pretty good, and a caramel washington apple martini even better :D I'll let her know which bartender I tag this time (generally it's in the casino bar, and I understand Savio is on the Liberty, and he makes a great one!!!!!!) I'm finicky about my chocolate martinis!!!

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L2J

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Lost me at "tomolives"

 

Card carrying member of P.E.T.A since 2003. This for real?

 

Lost me at garnish LOL...

 

Why yes, yes it is:D

 

P.E.T.A. = People Eating Tasty Animals. .... I love animals. They're delicious. :D

 

 

LMAO!

 

no, allen. don't.

 

liv, it's all part of the master plan, don'tchaknow? this is intended to not to be deciphered by some.

 

c'mon, catch up!:p

 

My frickin' head is spinning after reading that LOL.

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L2J

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Had me scared for a minute. Just didn't fit your M-O:p .

 

They are good, though, aren't they.:) My firm belief is cows are slow for a reason.;)

 

Heehee.

 

Yep...they are...

 

I've even had beaver once or twice...

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I didn't see a martini bar on the Liberty, but like Halo said, they had set up a huge display by the casino bar on the second formal night with all different flavor martinis. I didn't notice a chocolate one, but I'm sure they have it. They had a decent selection ;)

 

The Paparazzi Bar on the Promenade deck aft (just outside the piano bar) is a (predominantly) Martini bar.

 

I never actually got a drink there, as I am not a big fan of getting a martini all tricked out (chocolate, champagne, fruit, kelp, butterfly wings....). I was a big fan of the martinis I got at Flowers Bar in the atrium on deck 3.

 

And the true quote from Homer J Simpson is:

He knows just the way I like my martinis. Full of Alcohol!

:D

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