ladyanastasiabeaverhousen Posted January 9, 2008 #1 Share Posted January 9, 2008 It is no wonder to read the problems some passengers are having on the QV. Firstly and maybe unexpectedly, it's a new ship, though you would have thought that by now Carnival would have experienced most problems in the past and have foreseen them. Secondly a point that many may have missed according to the Cunard website * Queen Victoria is under construction and images featured on the website are artist impressions only. Final designs and decor may vary. Hopefully they will have it finished by the end of the World Cruise. Maybe they are picking up bits and pieces on the way. :p :D :p :D :p :D In all seriousness though this sort of poor attention to detail is in danger of becoming a trend with Cunard and Carnival should be carefull not to continue giving an inferior service under the Cunard brand or people will simply go elsewhere. Cunard is not a cheap option and their constant references to 'White Star' etc in their marketing means that increasingly they are not meeting let alone exceeding its customers expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorky Posted January 9, 2008 #2 Share Posted January 9, 2008 It is no wonder to read the problems some passengers are having on the QV. Firstly and maybe unexpectedly, it's a new ship, though you would have thought that by now Carnival would have experienced most problems in the past and have foreseen them. Secondly a point that many may have missed according to the Cunard website * Queen Victoria is under construction and images featured on the website are artist impressions only. Final designs and decor may vary. Hopefully they will have it finished by the end of the World Cruise. Maybe they are picking up bits and pieces on the way. :p :D :p :D :p :D In all seriousness though this sort of poor attention to detail is in danger of becoming a trend with Cunard and Carnival should be carefull not to continue giving an inferior service under the Cunard brand or people will simply go elsewhere. Cunard is not a cheap option and their constant references to 'White Star' etc in their marketing means that increasingly they are not meeting let alone exceeding its customers expectations. You will never eliminate problems on any new build. That's why large house builders all have snagging teams. There are just so many things on a mega-liner that can go wrong and when you add into the mix a percentage of new crew it's always going to happen. My tip is avoid the first six months of cruises and you should be OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yorky Posted January 9, 2008 #3 Share Posted January 9, 2008 It is no wonder to read the problems some passengers are having on the QV. Firstly and maybe unexpectedly, it's a new ship, though you would have thought that by now Carnival would have experienced most problems in the past and have foreseen them. Secondly a point that many may have missed according to the Cunard website * Queen Victoria is under construction and images featured on the website are artist impressions only. Final designs and decor may vary. Hopefully they will have it finished by the end of the World Cruise. Maybe they are picking up bits and pieces on the way. :p :D :p :D :p :D In all seriousness though this sort of poor attention to detail is in danger of becoming a trend with Cunard and Carnival should be carefully not to continue giving an inferior service under the Cunard brand or people will simply go elsewhere. Cunard is not a cheap option and their constant references to 'White Star' etc in their marketing means that increasingly they are not meeting let alone exceeding its customers expectations. But in truth it will always happen with anything new especially a mega liner. That's why all the big house builders have snagging teams. Imagine the list of parts that make up a huge cruise ship and add in a percentage of new crew and it's a recipe for disaster. The door on my new van refuses to open, could that have been avoided? My tip is just avoid the first six months of cruises and it should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyanastasiabeaverhousen Posted January 9, 2008 Author #4 Share Posted January 9, 2008 You will never eliminate problems on any new build. That's why large house builders all have snagging teams. There are just so many things on a mega-liner that can go wrong and when you add into the mix a percentage of new crew it's always going to happen. My tip is avoid the first six months of cruises and you should be OK. Sure, I hear what you are saying but the prices don't reflect a bedding in period and I don't think it unreasonable to expect things to be right from a company with so much experience. To be honest things were far from great this Christmas on the QE2 and one presumes the snagging items should be sorted on her by now? To be fair though, it often isn't the big things that let Carnival/Cunard down it is the small things that one expects to be right with out question. Example - The Queens Room on the QE2 this year was hardly decorated at all for the themed balls. No excuse. They are hosting it, one imagines they know what the themes will be throughout the year and trunks of decorations for tose themes will be to hand in the bowels of the ship to be put up when necessary. Enforcement of dress Code. Many people book cunard for this reason alone and still without proper supervision of public rooms on a formal night you see jeans and T-shirts. This cheapens the experience for passengers who dress correctly according to the stated code for that evening and looks dreadfull. One passenger this year even had what appeared to be the remains of a thong sticking out of the top of her jeans on a formal night. This certainly wasn't appropriate and indeed, barely covered her tattoo!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyanastasiabeaverhousen Posted January 9, 2008 Author #5 Share Posted January 9, 2008 duplicated in error Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit and proud Posted January 9, 2008 #6 Share Posted January 9, 2008 . Enforcement of dress Code. Many people book cunard for this reason alone and still without proper supervision of public rooms on a formal night you see jeans and T-shirts. This cheapens the experience for passengers who dress correctly according to the stated code for that evening and looks dreadfull. One passenger this year even had what appeared to be the remains of a thong sticking out of the top of her jeans on a formal night. This certainly wasn't appropriate and indeed, barely covered her tattoo!! Enforcement should have been adopted and if it had not then a word with the pursers office would have been a port of call.. jeans and thong...not what you want to see,,,, but the "tattoo!!" many many people have these Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord of the seas Posted January 9, 2008 #7 Share Posted January 9, 2008 Did you notice if the thong had any sparkly bits on it? :p :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMSOMICH Posted January 10, 2008 #8 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Re-Dress Code on the QV On the Maiden Voyage, there was just one senior officers' party, at lunchtime in the Queen's Room. We were asked to wear "smart casual" dress. However, I did see at least three people wearing jeans. Since the invitations are issued to Platinum/Diamond members, one would have thought that they knew the dress code by now. It definitely stated "no jeans" for "elegant casual". There were more "elegant casual" nights than on QE2. Is thgs perhaps a trend for the future with Cunard? After all, Carnival do now own Ocean Village and what could be more casual? Maureen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifer Posted January 10, 2008 #9 Share Posted January 10, 2008 There were more "elegant casual" nights than on QE2. Maureen, On the recent QE2 Christmas voyage, there were only Formal and Semi-Formal nights - not a Casual night, elegant or otherwise to be seen! Gavin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pnhmrk Posted January 10, 2008 #10 Share Posted January 10, 2008 On the recent QE2 Christmas voyage, there were only Formal and Semi-Formal nights - not a Casual night, elegant or otherwise to be seen! There are only about five on the entire WC - when she's either in port overnight or very late sailing:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare 3rdGenCunarder Posted January 10, 2008 #11 Share Posted January 10, 2008 There are only about five on the entire WC - when she's either in port overnight or very late sailing:) Excellent! Glad to hear standards are being maintained (although Matthew might say that standards of accessories are getting out of control). Those are the only reasonable excuses for casual nights. Were all nights on this crossing formal? Kathy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyanastasiabeaverhousen Posted January 10, 2008 Author #12 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Enforcement should have been adopted and if it had not then a word with the pursers office would have been a port of call.. jeans and thong...not what you want to see,,,, but the "tattoo!!" many many people have these Brian Yes but you didn't see where it was! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertGraves Posted January 10, 2008 #13 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Maureen, On the recent QE2 Christmas voyage, there were only Formal and Semi-Formal nights - not a Casual night, elegant or otherwise to be seen! Gavin This would be wonderful to extend to all voyages. After some absence, I was also glad to see that Cunard continues to keep the dress code tradition. The visual and aesthetic aspect of a cruise is greatly enhanced by having harmony reigning after seven o'clock. Cunard, keep up the good work in dress code matters! It is something that differentiates you and provides us with a polite and refined experience slowly disappearing in other lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyanastasiabeaverhousen Posted January 10, 2008 Author #14 Share Posted January 10, 2008 Did you notice if the thong had any sparkly bits on it? :p :D There wasn't enough of it to have ANYTHING on it :0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyanastasiabeaverhousen Posted January 10, 2008 Author #15 Share Posted January 10, 2008 This would be wonderful to extend to all voyages. After some absence, I was also glad to see that Cunard continues to keep the dress code tradition. The visual and aesthetic aspect of a cruise is greatly enhanced by having harmony reigning after seven o'clock. Cunard, keep up the good work in dress code matters! It is something that differentiates you and provides us with a polite and refined experience slowly disappearing in other lines. The dress code comes into effect from 6.00pm and It's only commendable if Cunard enforces it, which they don't. The green back is much stronger than their principles unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kindlychap Posted January 11, 2008 #16 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Excellent! Glad to hear standards are being maintained (although Matthew might say that standards of accessories are getting out of control). Those are the only reasonable excuses for casual nights. Were all nights on this crossing formal? Kathy Five formal nights on this crossing. As it ought to be. Matthew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brit and proud Posted January 11, 2008 #17 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Yes but you didn't see where it was! :eek: :eek: :eek: Brian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord of the seas Posted January 11, 2008 #18 Share Posted January 11, 2008 Brian, Don't worry,with the dress code standards slipping everywhere these days,you'll see it alright. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMSOMICH Posted January 11, 2008 #19 Share Posted January 11, 2008 The dress code for the return crossing in April is two nights semi-formal and 4 nights formal. Cunard sent the details before 6th January. It does say "subject to change2" and also says "the evening attire above mentioned supersedes the information provided in the guide with reference to the number of formal nights." Maureen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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