Casino

[smartdoc]

Does anyone know if the casino on the liberty of the seas is non smoking all the time or only on certain nights?

[Cruisenut1966]

Does anyone know if the casino on the liberty of the seas is non smoking all the time or only on certain nights?

No, there are non-smoking tables, but it's very much smoking

[rclcruzer]

They usually designate 1, if not 2 non-smoking nights in the casino.

[yogimax]

This is a real problem. RCCL needs to understand that the vast majority of its cruisers are non smokers. Within three years all onboard casinos will be non smoking. The question is whether RCCL will have the boldness to take the lead.

[Missus Makkem]

Does anyone know if the casino on the liberty of the seas is non smoking all the time or only on certain nights?

 

On other RCI ships usually formal nights are non smoking in the Casino

[TravelerThom]

This is a real problem. RCCL needs to understand that the vast majority of its cruisers are non smokers. Within three years all onboard casinos will be non smoking. The question is whether RCCL will have the boldness to take the lead.

You need to understand that RCI is not providing the casino as a service to cruisers, but rather it is a profit center. If you carefully read the latest (FY 2007) RCL Annual Report it shows that RCL's profit from On Board Sales [Casino, bar, spa, shops, photo, tours, etc] was 1.3 Billion dollars, while their overall profit was $600 Million - in other words they LOST $700 Million selling cruises and are being kept afloat by On Board Sales [i do not have Profit/ Loss breakouts on the Casino itself]. There is a significant overlap between smokers and gamblers and RCI is unlikely to take the lead in making the casino non-smoking, and thereby probably losing smokers who are gamblers to other lines. I don't think Carnival had any trouble selling their totally non-smoking Paradise, but they gave up on the concept because of a large drop in their liquor and gambling revenue. Just as the airlines don't mind being non-smoking [it saves money on cleaning and maintenance], it happened in lock-step as none of them wanted to lose their smoking clientele to their competition.

BTW I am a non-smoker and am just trying to report things as I think they are, with no attempt to argue for things that I might wish for.

[mikeqube]

This is a real problem. RCCL needs to understand that the vast majority of its cruisers are non smokers. Within three years all onboard casinos will be non smoking. The question is whether RCCL will have the boldness to take the lead.

 

The majority of cruisers may be non-smokers, but the majority of gamblers are smokers and gamblers keep the casino open.

[gowhitesox99]

traveler thom and mike..... I agree.

 

I am also a non smoker but those smokers love to gamble and smoke at the same time. I'm sure the cruise lines are doing everything they can to mimic vegas. Meaning they try to put the best air filtration systems in to make it not too smoky.

 

Vegas casinos's are ok, not too bad smoke wise. In a month ill see how the cruise ship casino is.

[tiba99]

I am a social smoker, and the best thing on going on a cruise is the casino..You sit you drink you smoke you play...LOVE IT

SORRY TO THE NON SMOKER :)

 

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[CroozeAddict]

Within three years all onboard casinos will be non smoking.

 

How in the world could you make such a false statement? Misguided speculation I suppose. Do you work on wall street by chance?

[TravelerThom]

I am a social smoker, and the best thing on going on a cruise is the casino..You sit you drink you smoke you play...LOVE IT

SORRY TO THE NON SMOKER :)

Gee a smoking thread that is still civil. While not a smoker I do have my vices, so as long as the ship doesn't force me to be in the smoking area I'm happy to let you have a good time [and subsidize my cruise]. Happy cruises to us ALL.

 

Thom

[tiba99]

thanks thom lol

[yogimax]

The majority of cruisers may be non-smokers, but the majority of gamblers are smokers and gamblers keep the casino open.

 

Less than 25% of the U.S. population now smokes. I have to believe that the statement "the majority of gamblers are smokers" is not accurate.

[mikeqube]

Less than 25% of the U.S. population now smokes. I have to believe that the statement "the majority of gamblers are smokers" is not accurate.

 

When was the last time you were in a casino?

[meansun]

I used to be a smoker (5 years not smoking!). They smoke dosn;t bother me whatsoever. "Most" gamblers that do smoke are courteous to those that don't.

 

That being said, a gambler will gamble whether there is smoking or not. Look at Colorado and California. I don't know about any other states that have gambling whether smoking is legal or not?

[mrlddst]

I don't smoke but it really doesn't bother me unless I'm trying to eat. I still gamble with the best of them. I wish I could get comp drinks in the casino on board though ;)

[DaisyGirl55]

Is there anything left that certain groups don't want to change? Dress codes, jean in the dining room, alcohol policies, and the never ending smoking debate.

 

There are mores areas on a ship where you cannot smoke than there are areas where you can. If the smoke in the casino bothers you, don't go there! I am sure that you can find lots of other places to enjoy your cruise.

 

I like to dress nicely for dinner... I don't smuggle alcohol but miss the days when I could buy a bottle in the shop on board and bring it back to my room...and I never light up in the casino without checking with the person sitting next to me in the casino.

 

Even so...according to some posters, I should not even be allowed to cruise if I choose to smoke.....just don't get it.

[bchalker]

Does anyone know if the casino on the liberty of the seas is non smoking all the time or only on certain nights?

Only certain nights. Dont remember how many. Prob not more than 2.

[yogimax]

 

...and I never light up in the casino without checking with the person sitting next to me in the casino.

 

 

I truly appreciate your courtesy.

 

In all the years I have visited casinos, I have never had the person sitting next to me ask if I minded if they smoked.

 

You are to be commended!

[austinlw]

Not to interrupt such a provocative argument over smoking vs non-smoking casinos, but I have a question regarding Texas Hold 'Em. I understand there is a big RC tournament deal going on for the next few months. Anyone here participate in that tournament on any of the ships (Voyager in particular)? What was the structure (blind levels, starting chip stack, time on each blind level)?

 

Also, is there regular cash game poker going on during non-tournament times? Is there a dealer or does RC use PokerPro machines like Carnival? If live dealer, how many players per table. As I said, Voyager is my main focus here (due to my upcoming trip).

 

I played 5/10 limit on Rhapsody a couple of years ago with a live dealer on a blackjack sized table. Wasn't a very good game - rake was ridiculous, dealers were mostly inexperienced at poker, 6-7 players max. However, I managed to do well for the week. I'll be interested in playing on Voyager too if the game looks at least mildly inviting to me.

[Lushpuppy]

You can smoke at the slots cant you??? My darling MIL...mmm... she likes nothing more than for us to find her a nice wee corner at the slots, give her a bucket of change, tell the bartender to keep topping up her whisky, and she spends hours in there:rolleyes: She will only do so if she can smoke???

I truly wish for the sake of both parties, RCI would clarify a policy across the board on all of their ships detailing smoking/non smoking areas in brochures, marketing etc. That way folks can make choices regarding cabins, etc, and of course whether or not the ship is actually suitable for their needs.

[honeywell]

Lush, they don't accept change in the slot machines anymore either!

[meansun]

Not to interrupt such a provocative argument over smoking vs non-smoking casinos, but I have a question regarding Texas Hold 'Em. I understand there is a big RC tournament deal going on for the next few months. Anyone here participate in that tournament on any of the ships (Voyager in particular)? What was the structure (blind levels, starting chip stack, time on each blind level)?

 

Also, is there regular cash game poker going on during non-tournament times? Is there a dealer or does RC use PokerPro machines like Carnival? If live dealer, how many players per table. As I said, Voyager is my main focus here (due to my upcoming trip).

 

I played 5/10 limit on Rhapsody a couple of years ago with a live dealer on a blackjack sized table. Wasn't a very good game - rake was ridiculous, dealers were mostly inexperienced at poker, 6-7 players max. However, I managed to do well for the week. I'll be interested in playing on Voyager too if the game looks at least mildly inviting to me.

 

They tourneys they hold are usually $100 buy in with a second chance to buy in before the blind increase. I believe it started out at 5/10.

 

On the Liberty, the head to head texas hold'em wasn't open until the day the tournament was over and it was only one day. the rake was 10%.

[mikeqube]

Lush, they don't accept change in the slot machines anymore either!

 

Have they switched over to tickets in the slots? Last year when I was on the AOS I hit for a few hundred on a machine and when I chased out, I expected a ticket and then quarters came out. It was kind of annoying.

[pmshirl]

No they have not All switched over to tickets. They take Bills! Like $1.00-$100.00 dollar bills. They are slots they still take coins!

 

Some ships have switched over to tickets and some not!:D

 

For the Smoking episode....The Atlantic City casino's ahve tried to make their Casino's all Non-Smoking!

 

It lasted 2 months and it's back to smoking! They Lost wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too much Business!

 

Seems to tell me that gamblers that Spend the Dough are Smokers!