nlcentralchmps03 Posted April 27, 2009 #176 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I hate when they move threads like this. Nobody ever visits in here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Diego Ellie Posted April 27, 2009 #177 Share Posted April 27, 2009 There are other ports they could probably include, such as Santa Barbara, CA and Astoria, Oregon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rare BecciBoo Posted April 27, 2009 #178 Share Posted April 27, 2009 http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/27/begins-passive-screening-swine-flu-borders/ They have decided to issue no non essential travel to Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted April 27, 2009 #179 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I hate when they move threads like this. Nobody ever visits in here. I posted a comment but then I realized that by posting this thread would come up in my subscribed threads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBSCruiser Posted April 27, 2009 #180 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Just confirmed two cases in Scotland gatting a bit scary .Two men now in Hospital Scotslizzy Do you realize how many people are sick in any given country on any given day? Two people out of how many millions in Scotland? The media is hyping this to the hilt!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrusinAgain Posted April 27, 2009 #181 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I'm on a Mexican Riviera Cruise in July and am wondering the same thing. With all the ports being in Mexico, it might be difficult. Maybe they will switch us to Alaska or more North, although not really what I planned on, a cool vacation is better than no vacation at all. My guess is, that if they had to change all the ports on a cruise, you might be able to get your money back to use on a differenet cruise but not sure what I would do with my air fare. Oh, well, there are tons of other things to worry about right now. I will wait and see what happens, oh and I have insurance so I should be covered. TD Alaska is too far and the most north they will go is to a foreign port which would be Vancouver or Victoria. I imagine the ports would be Catalina, San Francisco, Seattle and a foreign port of Canada. It takes 10 days from San Fran for an Alaska cruise so we are thinking seriously of just changing while we are still within deposit penalty plus we do have insurance of cancel for anything. We have no interest in seeing ports where we live already while paying the same price on the cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dbushwa Posted April 27, 2009 #182 Share Posted April 27, 2009 1600 people sick in Mexico city over 22 million in the metro area that works out to .0072%!!!!!!!! Might be better odds to win the lottery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving A Cruise Posted April 27, 2009 #183 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Please tell me where you heard this? We travel the week after you. Thanks! I'm on the May 31st departure to Mexico and we have heard that they could change the ports to Catalina, San Francisco, Seattle or possibly Victoria Canada. I'm really hoping this will be cleared up by the end of May though. I was hoping for a warm vacation. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdawg19 Posted April 27, 2009 #184 Share Posted April 27, 2009 My wife to be and I are slated to be on the 5/3 cruise on the Mariner of the Seas. Just wondering if anyone had heard about a change of ports or cancellation options? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let'sGo! Posted April 27, 2009 #185 Share Posted April 27, 2009 We have 5 cases that I know of less than 7 miles up the interstate. 2 high school kids in Schertz and on this morning's CBS morning show they interviewed a family in Cibolo where the dad and two young kids were sick. The dad (wearing a mask) said he had typical flu symptoms - body aches, fever, etc. I figure I have just as great a chance of catching this here at home as I do anywhere else. We're scheduled for the Mexican Riviera on May 24. I know RCCL won't see this thread in here, but if by chance someone does see it - I would love the chance to reschedule my cruise, rather than go to alternate ports along the West Coast. We chose this cruise for the itinerary, since we'd never been there. I don't even want to think what we'll be out on plane tickets ($100 or $150 cancellation/change fee?) and hotel room (Priceline - no refunds?) I think we can cancel and get a refund on our Super Shuttle pre-paid reservations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joyfulmarsh Posted April 27, 2009 #186 Share Posted April 27, 2009 We're on the Mariner this Sunday and while I am concerned about the Swine Flu Outbreak, I am going to take a light hearted moment here and say, "San Francisco?!?? Really?" Oy! If RC/Captain Per decides against Mexico and instead substitute other ports, the kicker is that we live in San Francisco. We actually only live about a mile walking distance from the Port of SF. Thus I joked with the DH that we could quickly run some laundry home and lessen the checked baggage on the return flight home!! And believe me, it will be packing a sweater instead of the bikinis that I have been working hard to get in-shape for since January. All that daily workout will be for naught, because local weather is much cooler then if we were Mexican Riviera-bound. Sigh!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dorset Cruiser Posted April 27, 2009 #187 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Do you realize how many people are sick in any given country on any given day? Two people out of how many millions in Scotland? The media is hyping this to the hilt!!! People should not be scared but they should certainly be aware and try and avoid situations where they could be exposed to the virus. More people died from a similar strain of flu after the Great War than died during the fighting - about 12 million, if my memory serves me correctly. This was the last great pandemic. However, the difference is that we now have antibiotics which successfully treat the symptoms of influenza and I think most of the confirmed cases outside of Mexico have very mild symptoms in any case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs_DMoNiC Posted April 27, 2009 #188 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Please tell me where you heard this? We travel the week after you. Thanks! My friends who are going on the cruise with us called RCL and were told they will not cancel the cruise, but change ports if needed and gave those examples of the possible ports. Nothing is set in stone though, we are still 5 weeks away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonzo70 Posted April 27, 2009 #189 Share Posted April 27, 2009 However, the difference is that we now have antibiotics which successfully treat the symptoms of influenza and I think most of the confirmed cases outside of Mexico have very mild symptoms in any case. Antibiotics treat bacterial infections; they do not do anything to treat a virus. The flu is a virus. There are antiviral medications to treat the flu such as Tamiflu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SherriZ366 Posted April 27, 2009 #190 Share Posted April 27, 2009 I wonder if using emergency authority, the govt. could waive the requirements of the Passenger Vehicle Services Act --the law that specifies that foreign flagged carriers must call on at least one foreign port if they depart and return from the US. Then, Mariner could call on an all US port itinerary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnfather Posted April 27, 2009 #191 Share Posted April 27, 2009 Antibiotics treat bacterial infections; they do not do anything to treat a virus. The flu is a virus. There are antiviral medications to treat the flu such as Tamiflu. But antibiotics treat secondary infections such as Pneumonia, which is what - I believe - most people who die of the flu, die from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsoxcrystal Posted April 27, 2009 #192 Share Posted April 27, 2009 The 6 of use are sailing out of long beach on may 11 to go to catalina and ensenada... We ARE NOT cancelling NO WAY!!! BUT however we will have a STOCKPILE of WATER GATORADE AND AIRBORNE and/or ZIACAM lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sartracker Posted April 27, 2009 #193 Share Posted April 27, 2009 New CDC Recommendations at 18:52 April 27, 2009 At this time, CDC recommends that U.S. travelers avoid all nonessential travel to Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jdawg19 Posted April 27, 2009 #194 Share Posted April 27, 2009 http://wwwn.cdc.gov/travel/contentSwineFluMexico.aspx Just saw this and called Royal Caribbean. As of this time they are not changing the itinerary is what I was told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
6rugrats Posted April 27, 2009 #195 Share Posted April 27, 2009 People should not be scared but they should certainly be aware and try and avoid situations where they could be exposed to the virus. More people died from a similar strain of flu after the Great War than died during the fighting - about 12 million, if my memory serves me correctly. This was the last great pandemic. However, the difference is that we now have antibiotics which successfully treat the symptoms of influenza and I think most of the confirmed cases outside of Mexico have very mild symptoms in any case. Better estimates are 20-40 million people dead of Spanish Influenza. As stated, antibiotics do not treat viruses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craving A Cruise Posted April 28, 2009 #196 Share Posted April 28, 2009 Thanks Angela! We were really looking forward to visiting those Mexican ports. As a Californian, Catalina, San Fran, & San Diego (although beautiful) just don't excite us, as we have been there many times. Seattle is not tropical enough. ;) LOL Victoria B.C. would be good, as I have a relative that lives there, that I have not seen in 3 years. That would be nice but the visit too short. Well lets just hope that the Mariner will still travel to Mexico and we will all enjoy our long awaited vacations. :D My friends who are going on the cruise with us called RCL and were told they will not cancel the cruise, but change ports if needed and gave those examples of the possible ports. Nothing is set in stone though, we are still 5 weeks away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeyer418 Posted April 28, 2009 #197 Share Posted April 28, 2009 I wonder if using emergency authority, the govt. could waive the requirements of the Passenger Vehicle Services Act --the law that specifies that foreign flagged carriers must call on at least one foreign port if they depart and return from the US. Then, Mariner could call on an all US port itinerary. yes they can. Its prosecutorial discretion not to fine the cruise line...administered by the Coast Guard BTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smeyer418 Posted April 28, 2009 #198 Share Posted April 28, 2009 1600 people sick in Mexico city over 22 million in the metro area that works out to .0072%!!!!!!!! Might be better odds to win the lottery 149 people have died. This is an extremely high death rate for this illness. I wasn't around but the influenza of 1918-19 killed millions. That is why they are so worried http://1918.pandemicflu.gov/the_pandemic/index.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cruzincurt Posted April 28, 2009 #199 Share Posted April 28, 2009 My friends who are going on the cruise with us called RCL and were told they will not cancel the cruise, but change ports if needed and gave those examples of the possible ports. Nothing is set in stone though, we are still 5 weeks away. I don't think they are going to cancel any cruise unless the crew is sick. They don't even do that for a hurricane. They will change the route even if it's just days at sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stellaglide Posted April 28, 2009 #200 Share Posted April 28, 2009 But antibiotics treat secondary infections such as Pneumonia, which is what - I believe - most people who die of the flu, die from Ahhh, but is it bacterial pneumonia or viral pneumonia? Both do exist. Pneumonia just designates an infection in the lungs and it could be from a bacteria or a virus and both can be deadly but if its viral pneumonia, antibiotics have no use in treatment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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