Casino Luck?

[temple1]

WOW - Reading the comments, it sure looks like NO ONE ever loses!

 

Go back to page one and read my comments. I must be in the minority. :D

[firefly4423]

Ive gotten "lucky" a few times. I came up like $300 up or so and just left at that to buy some drinks!

[Gonzo70]

I did not enjoy 21 in that in my opinion there are many people who play on a ship that rarely or never play at home. These people make very porr decisions that are way off from basic strategy. It made the game less enjoyable for me for people to spit 10s and take dealer bust cards.

 

How other people play makes ZERO difference in your chances of winning/losing. They are just as likely to take the dealers "bust hand" by making a statistically poor decision as they are to take a card that would have helped the dealer. It is an old wives tale that playing BJ with inexeprienced players makes it harder for a serious player to win.

[lovedogs]

WOW - Reading the comments, it sure looks like NO ONE ever loses!

 

Oh, believe me, could I tell you stories about losing in the casino:eek: But, I'd prefer to tell you about my once-in-a-lifetime big casino win. It was on my FIRST CRUISE (of course) in 2005 and I gave myself a $40 limit, which usually can be sucked up in a slot machine within 10 seconds. Anyway, I lost the first $10 in about 20 secondss, cashed out the balance and was literally going to walk around and drop the max quarters into all the quarter machines in this one row. I figured it wouldn't take long and I'd be done. Wrong:rolleyes: At the very first machine (a very old machne,which I had never seen in my life) I put 2 quarters in the slot and hit the jackpot - $1,500! I didn't even know it though because nothing happened, except the top lights started flashing and someone walked by and said congratulations :) Luckily, I wasn't with my husband, but on a girl's week cruise to Mexico. It was about 3 a.m. when I went back to the room, flipped on the light, woke up my friend and said "girlfriend, we're going to the spa tomorrow!". It was so cool - that win paid for the ENTIRE cruise and our trip to the spa, plus it and gave me $ for my next cruise as well. Needless to say, I stayed away from the casino the rest of the cruise though and didn't donate anything back! (If my DH was with me, I probably would have had to SAVE it all - and what fun would that have been?)

 

Of course, nothing like that has ever happened again:(, but it is something I'll always remember.

[Aubiecruiser]

On our pc Brilliance cruise in 2006 I hit on 3 of the 4 Wheel of Fortune machines, also had good runs on a few of the other machines as well as good luck at blackjack. Walked off the ship with $3800 more than I boarded with. Best run I've ever had on a cruise. Last year in the Med did better than breaking even so I'm still ahead.

Aubie

[KarinaGW]

Twenty year old son took his coupon for free slots and got his coin. Randomly popped it into a machine and won $250. First time gambling...and last so far.

[CRUSINGFAMILY]

We just got off Serenade last Saturday, my son left about a 1000 dollars there, I played conservative blackjack everyday and walked away about 80 dollars ahead for a 14 day cruise. My son is a numbers guy, and he knows the odds on the ships are way worse than in our casino's here at home. He says the bingo you should not even play, the cruiseline keeps most of the money.

 

Happy sailing and good luck

 

Brian J

[sailingawaysoon]

I was on the NCL Star in November and a man won $150,000 max betting on a $1 slot machine. Rumor was that he put $30,000 into the machine to win all that. I was in the casino at the time because my husband was playingin the texas tourney. He wasn't even happy. I kid you not! He wasn't even smiling in the "Wall of Fame" picture. :eek:

I wonder why he wasn't happy. For having put $30,000 into the machine, he got a great return for his investment. I wonder how long it took him to win? I mean, at a $1 slot machine, you have to be there awhile I would imagine?

[sailingawaysoon]

Oh, believe me, could I tell you stories about losing in the casino:eek: But, I'd prefer to tell you about my once-in-a-lifetime big casino win. It was on my FIRST CRUISE (of course) in 2005 and I gave myself a $40 limit, which usually can be sucked up in a slot machine within 10 seconds. Anyway, I lost the first $10 in about 20 secondss, cashed out the balance and was literally going to walk around and drop the max quarters into all the quarter machines in this one row. I figured it wouldn't take long and I'd be done. Wrong:rolleyes: At the very first machine (a very old machne,which I had never seen in my life) I put 2 quarters in the slot and hit the jackpot - $1,500! I didn't even know it though because nothing happened, except the top lights started flashing and someone walked by and said congratulations :) Luckily, I wasn't with my husband, but on a girl's week cruise to Mexico. It was about 3 a.m. when I went back to the room, flipped on the light, woke up my friend and said "girlfriend, we're going to the spa tomorrow!". It was so cool - that win paid for the ENTIRE cruise and our trip to the spa, plus it and gave me $ for my next cruise as well. Needless to say, I stayed away from the casino the rest of the cruise though and didn't donate anything back! (If my DH was with me, I probably would have had to SAVE it all - and what fun would that have been?)

 

Of course, nothing like that has ever happened again:(, but it is something I'll always remember.

 

That's really cool! And you didn't forget about your friends. I love seeing people win (and don't mind winning myself from time to time).

[ziggypup]

How other people play makes ZERO difference in your chances of winning/losing. They are just as likely to take the dealers "bust hand" by making a statistically poor decision as they are to take a card that would have helped the dealer. It is an old wives tale that playing BJ with inexeprienced players makes it harder for a serious player to win.

 

Oh boy....................Very very wrong statement. And incorrect also. :)

 

Actually, this is not the proper place to debate Blackjack strategy so i'll stand down. LOL

[yogimax]

Oh boy....................Very very wrong statement. And incorrect also. :)

 

Actually, this is not the proper place to debate Blackjack strategy so i'll stand down. LOL

 

Actually Gonzo70 is absolutely correct. The turn of the cards is totally random and whatever another player does will, over the long term, balance itself out as far as helping or hurting you.

[Gonzo70]

Oh boy....................Very very wrong statement. And incorrect also. :)

 

Actually, this is not the proper place to debate Blackjack strategy so i'll stand down. LOL

 

Uh, no. My statement is 100% correct. And it is a fact, not an opinion.

[ejeffo]

It is an old wives tale that playing BJ with inexeprienced players makes it harder for a serious player to win.

 

Wives tale is not the correct term... *excuse* fits better.

[ziggypup]

Actually Gonzo70 is absolutely correct. The turn of the cards is totally random and whatever another player does will, over the long term, balance itself out as far as helping or hurting you.

 

Yes, i totally agree. The turn of the cards is random. But we have a finite amount of cards in a shoe. So whether or not we are playing with a single deck or a 4 deck shoe, the amount of cards is known from the start. In a 4 deck shoe their are 16 aces. If in the first hand all 16 aces are delt, then we have a little more information now then we had a moment ago. So the cards are still random at this point, but we now know what is left in the shoe and what is not. So as the game progresses, the cards are still random, but if you pay attention you have better shot at 2 things. The first being when to bet a little higher, or lower depending on what has been delt so far. And secondly based on the math, you have a better chance at predicting what is about to be delt based upon what has been delt. I can go on for another hour, but don't want to bore those who are not interested since the topic of this thread is not Blackjack. Good luck with any method you use.

[lakette3]

I have had a lot of luck on the slots. All of the amounts below are net. I usually play $100 per night and that is all

 

Enchantment - 1999 - $2100

Serenade of the Seas - 2001 - $1950

Voyager - 2005 - $3700

Liberty of the Seas -2007 $1100

Magesty - 2009 - $1300

 

 

Also on the Magesty I left $200 worth of quarters in those buckets on the table while I went to get some sugar at the coffee place and when I turned around it was gone. I hope they enjoyed it.

[HoneyDad]

I have had a lot of luck on the slots. All of the amounts below are net. I usually play $100 per night and that is all

 

Enchantment - 1999 - $2100

Serenade of the Seas - 2001 - $1950

Voyager - 2005 - $3700

Liberty of the Seas -2007 $1100

Magesty - 2009 - $1300

 

 

Also on the Magesty I left $200 worth of quarters in those buckets on the table while I went to get some sugar at the coffee place and when I turned around it was gone. I hope they enjoyed it.

 

On EOS my wife hit a jackpot for $500 I ran up to the room to get the camera took a few pictures and set the camera in a coin hopper and got up and later remembered what I did. Never found the camera but the casino staff could not have been better about it. The send a bottle of wine to our dinner table as an apology The camera can be replaced but I was sure bummed about losing our pictures.

[Gonzo70]

Yes, i totally agree. The turn of the cards is random. But we have a finite amount of cards in a shoe. So whether or not we are playing with a single deck or a 4 deck shoe, the amount of cards is known from the start. In a 4 deck shoe their are 16 aces. If in the first hand all 16 aces are delt, then we have a little more information now then we had a moment ago. So the cards are still random at this point, but we now know what is left in the shoe and what is not. So as the game progresses, the cards are still random, but if you pay attention you have better shot at 2 things. The first being when to bet a little higher, or lower depending on what has been delt so far. And secondly based on the math, you have a better chance at predicting what is about to be delt based upon what has been delt. I can go on for another hour, but don't want to bore those who are not interested since the topic of this thread is not Blackjack. Good luck with any method you use.

 

Counting cards does increase your odds, but still other players making bad moves still has ZERO impact on your odds of winning. You can count aces and others cards just the same irrespective of the skill level of other players at the table.

[ziggypup]

Counting cards does increase your odds, but still other players making bad moves still has ZERO impact on your odds of winning. You can count aces and others cards just the same irrespective of the skill level of other players at the table.

 

Ok then. Let's say that dealer has a six showing. The whole table is standing pat except the last player (AKA: Home Plate). The person sitting at home plate has 16. Now I know based upon watching the cards that the shoe has roughly 70% high cards left in it. That is almost 3 out 4 cards will be high. Now the player at Home Plate makes a "Bad Move" and takes a card because he or she does not know at least the basic Blackjack strategy. The Home Plate player pulls a high card and busts. The dealer has a 10 and 6 and has to hit. The dealer pulls a 4 and wipes out everybody remaining in play. So at that particular moment in the shoe, the bad move made by the unknowledgeable player did have a impact based upon the odds at that particular moment in time. So the "bad move' effected the odds on the remaining players winning the hand based upon the cards left in the shoe.

 

So I will concede that maybe in the begining of the shoe a "bad move" might not have as much of a impact. But that is why learning the game is so important especially when you have money on the table. And not only that. A bad move based on ZERO knowledge does effect everybody else who also has money on the table.

 

I just love sitting at a table with a group of people who know how to play the game. As soon as I start seeing people splitting face cards.........I run for it !!!

 

FYI........For those who are interested in learning the game. The casino on board does have tutorial lessons on all the table games. So you can sit down and play with fake money while you learn how to play. I am going to learn craps on my next cruise.

[Gonzo70]

Ok then. Let's say that dealer has a six showing. The whole table is standing pat except the last player (AKA: Home Plate). The person sitting at home plate has 16. Now I know based upon watching the cards that the shoe has roughly 70% high cards left in it. That is almost 3 out 4 cards will be high. Now the player at Home Plate makes a "Bad Move" and takes a card because he or she does not know at least the basic Blackjack strategy. The Home Plate player pulls a high card and busts. The dealer has a 10 and 6 and has to hit. The dealer pulls a 4 and wipes out everybody remaining in play. So at that particular moment in the shoe, the bad move made by the unknowledgeable player did have a impact based upon the odds at that particular moment in time. So the "bad move' effected the odds on the remaining players winning the hand based upon the cards left in the shoe.

 

So I will concede that maybe in the begining of the shoe a "bad move" might not have as much of a impact. But that is why learning the game is so important especially when you have money on the table. And not only that. A bad move based on ZERO knowledge does effect everybody else who also has money on the table.

 

I just love sitting at a table with a group of people who know how to play the game. As soon as I start seeing people splitting face cards.........I run for it !!!

 

FYI........For those who are interested in learning the game. The casino on board does have tutorial lessons on all the table games. So you can sit down and play with fake money while you learn how to play. I am going to learn craps on my next cruise.

 

Wow; this is like arguing with someone who thinks that 2+2=5. This is not an opinion we are debating - it is facts. Bad players on a BJ table are as likely to help you as hurt you. In your example above the player at home plate could have drawn a 4 and then the dealer a face card leading to the dealer busting. Just google it and you will see dozens of sites dispelling the old wives tale that sitting at a table with bad/ignorant players makes it harder for good players to win. There is not even the tiniest bit of truth about that old wives tales. It is 100% incorrect. The decisions/skill level of other players at the table have no effect on your own personal odds of winning. It bugs superstitious players, but in reality it helps them as much as it hurts them when someone does a "bad" move.

[Bulldog3777]

$1600 on a $1 slot on the Westerdam in Jan. I had put $10 in the machine and bet $2 twice. Hit it on the second try. $1425 at video poker machine, progressive Royal Flush on the NCL Pearl. Now let's discuss all the times I have lost.

[ziggypup]

Oh, I wasn't aware that we were arguing. Well I've been playing the game for about a good 15 years. So Googling Blackjack makes no sense for me. I can just tell you from my own personal experience that good players are better than bad ones. And bad players that make bad moves do far less better than people who know how to play.

 

And if the Home Plate player knew that he or she only had roughly 25% chance of winning by drawing a card, then maybe having that knowledge might have saved him/her, and the rest of the table for that matter.

 

Anyway, dinner time. Enjoy. Let me know if we are still arguing.

[yogimax]

There is not even the tiniest bit of truth about that old wives tales. It is 100% incorrect. .

 

Another old wives tale in the casino is that a particular slot machine is either "hot" or "ready to hit."

 

The random number generator makes each spin an independent event. The only way a slot machine can be "hot" is if it is programmed to pay out at a higher level than others. Not likely.

 

I have also read often on CC that some people think the slots are "hotter" on the first night. Another myth. The cruise lines do not open every machine after the first night and replace or reprogram the RNG chip.

[temple1]

I have also read often on CC that some people think the slots are "hotter" on the first night. Another myth. The cruise lines do not open every machine after the first night and replace or reprogram the RNG chip.

 

I think there would probably be a problem with that with who ever holds their gambling license.

[yogimax]

I think there would probably be a problem with that with who ever holds their gambling license.

 

Absolutely true in Vegas, AC or any casino in the states which are HIGHLY regulated. I would be curious to know if the cruise lines face the same scrutiny.

[temple1]

Somewhere in the back of my mind I seem to recall that RCI has its license through one of the casinos??? :confused: