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  1. If you use Gmail be sure to check the tab for Promotions. You must also tell your email client to grab items from that folder to display on your client/app.   Also check your spam folder, again if you have not told your client/app to grab spam messages you will need to review your spam on the Gmail website.   I get all of my promotions from various travel outfits.  HAL has been sending a concert series and cooking series.

  2. 5 hours ago, LMaxwell said:

    Anyways, you can simply go to youtube and type NCL fight or carnival fight and you will see all kinds of outrageous guest behavior set off by the smallest thing. And security doesn't really do much. How are they going to enforce any distancing/mask regulations? What is the plan if a guest won't comply? There's only so much security force onboard a ship. Guests are the weakest part of the equation here, not the cruise lines. 

    I will watch the videos later, just stopped by for a sec before work.  I can't disagree with you that people are usually the problem😉. It certainly is not the guide dogs😃.  I think the limiting of capacity will help.   I think as some in the travel industry have done lifetime bans are in order along with immediate expulsion.  I have seen people arrested on a cruise ship for disorderly behavior but that was a single individual.  I was on a HAL ship that had major issues.  Many of us recognized the issues and discussed them but we waited until our vacation was over until we embarked on the complaints to management.  Maybe it is a reflection of the older people on HAL or the type of people HAL caters to but no one saw any reason to ruin a vacation.

  3. 19 minutes ago, KirkNC said:

    Quote from page 54


    “Given that cruise operators will not be able to fully control the SARS-CoV-2 mitigation efforts (e.g., sanitation, social distancing) of every venue at the destinations of interest, the Panel recommends that in the startup phase, guests should only be permitted to disembark at ports if they are taking cruise line- sponsored excursions where such efforts would be subject to vendor management considerations..”


    Now the question becomes how long is the “start up phase” or when will it end.  This comment combined with the recommendation to visit cruise line controlled venues and start with short cruises means it will probably be well into 2022 before cruising has any appeal to us.  

    Anyone want some cheap FCC’s?


    I think the start up phase is the question.  We are only 6 months into this and it has been a rapidly evolving situation.  I expect 6 months from now it will be unrecognizable from what people on this forum think - one way or the other

  4. 13 minutes ago, cruzsnooze said:

    He's not so egotistical he can't revise data as information becomes known and unavailable. That's what a good doctor and scientist does. He's brilliant and when he says it's a safe vaccine and go ahead on cruise ships that's who I'll believe.

    It is ok for you to make that decision for yourself, that is legitimate, just like you listen to your personal physician.   It is different to make a decision for 330 million people.  We cannot rely on a single individual to make that decision that is why we have a political system.  To use Wikipedia's definition which is a peer review definition and likely acceptable by most academics:


    Politics is the set of activities that are associated with making decisions in groups, or other forms of power relations between individuals, such as the distribution of resources or status. The academic study of politics is referred to as political science.


    Society does not give physicians the same set of responsibilities.  Their duties are to the individual patient

  5. 1 minute ago, d9704011 said:

    I guess it depends on what you want to call a riot but the Norwegian Pirit cruise of October, 2019 was portrayed that way in some news sources.  For example....





    There are 9 people holding signs, far from a riot.  Not good PR but not a riot either.  I think all of us who are booking for 2021 are pretty aware of the options that may face us.  

  6. 12 hours ago, cruzsnooze said:

    So you like advise from your doctor but a politician to make the judgement? I'll take my doctors advise and use their recommendations and leave politics out of..It is my life is at stake.

     Good statesman should take advice from various professionals.  Medical professionals do have huge differences of opinion on all topics.   Please read the statement by the American Academy of Pediatrics where they urged an immediate return to school:     AAP



  7. 4 hours ago, satxdiver said:


    The two FL senators are following the lead of the FL governor who believes the pandemic is a hoax and insists on opening up the schools and businesses.  After all what could go wrong in God's waiting room.  Personally I follow what Dr Fausi and his medical colleagues are saying and certainly not what some mouthpiece politician has to say.  I went to a board certified and licensed medical practice for my colonoscopy and not a plumber.   

    You do realize that much of Europe and Asia never closed their schools and many of those countries have year round schools.  

  8. From what I have read the restaurants will operate much like restaurants at home.  Tables distanced, sitting only with your personal traveling unit, masking until seated.  Why would those same protocols not be sufficient for cruising.   I still think that all of this will be behind is by late spring.  And I think there are plenty of youthful and healthy people willing to fill ships to the new capacities. 

  9. I did reply weeks ago and have read numerous protocols from European cruises and proposed protocols.  I am content with playing along so I can travel.   I think there have to be some serious adjustments to Maritime Law, as the lack of aid from ports last winter was a poor example of modern living.  There has to be a humane way to contain people in quarantine, that is not being discussed.   For me that is my only fear - being stuck on a plague ship.


    I do believe that we cannot legislate based on the sickest among us in every instance. This is a leisure activity not a necessity.

  10. I read the article.  It appears that Oceania is relying on the local authorities to dictate the rules while in port but I also would like clarity on that issue.  Whatever the locals may say the issue is what are you bringing onboard,  


    @kazu  we continue to agree about Oceania.  My first cruises years ago were with NCL and loved them when they had small ships.  I so looked forward to becoming a fan of Oceania - never again.  

  11. 44 minutes ago, Floridastorm said:

    I really don't see how my credit card company can help much. Can you advise? 🤔

    If you put the cruise on your credit card you can file a dispute.  Travel reservations generally have a longer dispute period than other types of charges.  It is worth a phone call.  Of course, realize, disputes can take up to 60 days to resolve

  12. We were there a few years ago by cruise ship and Holland had a paid shuttle. I was not happy that I had to pay as taxis and other options (even walking) are not allowed in the port area.  The traffic was awful and I could have walked to town faster.  Anyway once left in town center there were a multitude of ho ho buses.  You can research the best option and even buy tickets online.   We spent all day in the 4 units of the Irish museum.  They are free and excellent.  We spent the remainder of our time on the green or wandering people watching.  This time I am researching countryside options.  

  13. 7 minutes ago, Floridastorm said:

    Hard for me to believe that HAL will be solvent for another 18 weeks much less another 18 months. Why would they tell good customers that they will refund their money within 90 days  and then not refund their money within 90 days? My refund has already gone over 100 days and still nothing concrete from HAL although I have followed up twice with them. All you get is "just be patient". I am already planning on never receiving my refund and moving on with my life.

    Why don’t you call your credit card company?  

  14. It is much cheaper to book on your own.  HAL usually has cheap air and in many locations the shore excursions are competitive but I have never seen a good hotel deal with HAL.  I was looking at Boston the other day and I can book the Copley for much cheaper than HAL.   I have looked at the Amsterdam hotels (I was supposed to sail there this past summer).  It is a good hotel with good location but again, you can get it cheaper on your own.  If you prefer to use HAL it is very easy to go to the website, you will need your booking number and book the hotel yourself.  I use a TA but do book my post and pre travel directly

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