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I would say approximately zero. This bridge is largely intact. Gonna take a week or two or more develop some type of plan. Then the execution will take alot of time. Probably months realistically. I suppose they will have to blow it up, i cant see another way to get it to small enough parts to then lift out. Look how long it took to get the evergreen out.

That whole story is clickbait. Its no worse then any other year. Not an issue at CC. Costa Maya on the other hand is always full of it.

top # 1 answer on the board.....SUSHI. Not only bacteria, but parasites, Thats why all sushi sold in the USA must be frozen first, to kill all the parasites.

Thats a cool setup. My line of thinking was because of the massive steel in between floors, the signals are pretty much isolated anyway, so why not break it up. But i see your point.

Guess and experience. I designed and installed my resorts wifi network. I have 600 users, they have 10,000 users on a metal ship. If i were designing it i would have one for every floor. I do not know but i am guessing also they have multiple wan connections as i do to split it up. I have not personally worked with starlink so i dont know how that works, but it seems is would be easy to have 5 different steams.

Latency on the lan Probably due to insufficient upload.

Too many users for the installed equipment. Latency sucks.

Wow what a pass the buck. The ta makes little to no $. I never use them on comp bookings. Just complicates things. And yes whatever you are sailing on when you book NC will be in the computer. You have to tell them to take it out.

This is a major problem that rccl needs to address. You can book all you want in advance on day 1 of opening which isnt even clear. Otherwise you can try once onboard for the scraps and if you are savvy or are willing to accept obstructed view you can do it onboard. Why not let everyone book 2 shows and fight the rest out onboard. Why reward the bored who are on the computer all day?

I researched the cdc vessel plan and the usph requirements and they are the same as local. Anyway that is all out the window as every pool and spa has a designed bathing load. In fact the frequency of water changes is calculated by the number of USERS. On a ship this is insane. Nowhere does the number of users approach that of on a ship. in addition the design bathing load is not enforced. Therefore everything else is out the window. Once i started researching this topic, in addition to my personal illness from a ships hot tub, i was unaware of the number of Illnesses that can be and are contracted in any public hot tub anywhere. Finally, i am aware thatpeople get sick everywhere from a variery of avoidable behaviors, My experienced has ruined my love for hot tubs. I could not even sit in there without being grossed out. So to each their own. The odds are low, but they are there. Everyone individually needs to figure out if its worth it to them. Anyway thanks for your input, I dont mean to be adversarial, I just have a strong opinion and training and experience in this area. I am very thankful we have such a knowledgeable individual here on ships.

The thing is most people i talk to on ships didnt pay a thin dime for their cruise. We have not paid doe the last 8 cruises. They are losing money on us.

The funny thing is, most people would never consider bathing in a bath tub that just one individual had already used, maybe even if its your spouse or family. But they will readily jump into a hot tub, drink in hand, smiling while they say hello to the eight other questionable people that have been in there for hours.

I understand completely what you are saying. I have also had many cruise ship illnesses as well. But this topic is about the hot tubs. what should be done to make them safer…..well its all technology. Maybe the newer ships have or will have it. Maybe restrict to 6 people at a time would help too. since i have training and expertise in this area i am sharing what i know with those who do not. Its my opinion and i do not know it all. i will test for my own opinion and to post the results here good or bad. I will get cups of water indiscriminately from the tubs and do the testing in my room. trust me, the crew already knows exactly what they are experiencing. I dont need to tell them anything.

So hot tubs on ships are safe but not on land, that are not open 16 hours a day? There is no situation that i can think of where the bathing loads even come close to what i see on ships. Plus the number of small children. It stands to reason a higher metric would apply vs land. Anyway i am living proof that they are NOT always safe. I’ll bring my test kits on the next one and post what i find. i am a certified pool operator and have many years of experience taking care of my resorts large overcrowded pool. If you talk to my cpo instructor, who is one of the most knowlegeable people in the united states on aquatics and he will give you an earful. The simple fact is they are not safe 100% of the time on land or sea. But i am quite sure worse at sea due to the absolutely extreme bathing loads in the tubs.

Most of these people made or inherited alot of money and are old and some have no kids to leave it to.

Rashes are very common, if you use bromine instead, it will cut down on that. Its a better solution for a personal hot tub imo.

Yes over the course of many hours or days. Its unhealthy right now. What do you do? My health dept allows a combined chlorine of .4ppm. What is is on ships? I am gonna have some fun with this on the next cruise. I am willing to bet not one hot tub will pass this test.

If anyone thinks i am nutty just google “skin infection from cruise ship hot tub.” Pages upon pages of results. Happy soaking!!!!

You are still going to have to explain what they do when the total chlorine is 10, the combined chlorine is 8 and the free chlorine is 2. You simply cannot leave people in the tub, period the end. I have never seen them kick everyone out and close a tub. Only in the case of poop in spa does that happen.

Strips are inaccurate and not allowed to be used by most health departments. A dpd kit is way better. Trust me, i am trained in this area. There was lots of chlorine cant remember but near 10, smelled to high heaven from the chloromines and zero free chlorine. Unless there is some magical system, the only way to fix it is kick everyone out and shock it or drain it.

That may be true but because it evaporates so fast at high temps it is the opposite effect.

My suggestion and it may already exist on newer ships is to have a continous system that removes water from the hot tub and replaces it with fresh, preheated chlorinated water. This system would be somewhat complex, especially given the locations of hot tubs on the ship. It would cost a ton in chlorine and would have environmental impacts(discharge the filthy chlorinated water). But it could be done. It would also be possible to have a large tank where the water can go to be superchlorinated and allowed to sit before being reintroduced. The main problem is a gallon of chlorinated water only has so much santizing capability and its worse at high temps. The hot tubs are very small, hot and packed with people. Again the risk of infection is small, but it happens and if you went through what i did, you will never get in another one.

Ships apparently use chlorine according to cheng. Bromine is better, less rashes but it stinks. Usually you can smell the difference. yes you know the difference. We were on celebrity in the solarium warm pool. Saw some tp floating around and that was it. As we all know some people dont shower often.

Well there was because i measured it. I will bring my kit next time and do some posts. If you know sanitation, you will also know that it is unhealthy to have more then 10 ppm total chlorine. Adding more chlorine is not an option. The only way to fix it is empty the hot tub of people or drain it. If water is left in, Super chlorinate it, unlock the combined chlorine then either wait or add de-chlor to being the level back down to 10 or below. Somehow i do not see this happening on ships. The simple fact is that chlorine does not work as well at high temps, bacteria, algae and fungi flourish and with the bathing load being higher then design, its impossible to protect 100% of the time. Its probably ok most of the time but trust me, sooner or later you will find one that isnt. Rashes, infections, pimples are the result. That crew lawyer has it posted on this main page as one of the number one people he represents, hot tub infections.

10 ppm is total chlorine. We tested it on a carnival cruise and it had zero free chlorine. (Unsafe). Really 1 ppm free is unsafe in a hot tub. If you can smell chlorine it has a high combined chlorine as you are smelling the chloromines. If you want to be safe. Get some test strips and check before you get in. Free chlorine has to be 2 or higher. Years ago i got a terrible resistant staff infection on day 6 from the hot tub. The ship dr indicated it had been contracted in the time frame inwas onboard. 1.5 years later, with scars all over my body from it eating my skin, we finally found the right antibiotic that would kill it. I am a certified pool operator and i oversee aquatics at my resort. Trust me, although you will be safe most of the time, you wont always be safe. I love hot tubs but i wont go anywhere near them with that kind of bathing load. Its all good til you end up like me or worse, ecoli.