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One of the first of the Carnival Corp brands meant to get back to service appears to have pushed their restart from September until November....interesting itineraries, all requiring medium to long haul flights. If P&O were to try a 'fly cruise' season this might be the model to follow provided there's no mandatory quarantine on the return home.
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6 minutes ago, mercury7289 said:
MSC Magnifica proposed August sailing cancelled, reported by posters on there boards.
https://www.seatrade-cruise.com/environmental-health/msc-magnificas-restart-delayed-late-september
ironic that they mention the reduced interest due to the testing requirements as the reason for delay, but then in the next sentence saying there's plenty of interest....so which is it?!? 🙄
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8 hours ago, Cienfuegos said:
Creating a "bubble" while ashore does create some issues, however. For me, much of the fun is wandering through stalls in the bazaar, sampling street food, etc. Simply sitting on a bus, or being herded, doesn't have the same attraction. For me.
What MSC did was absolutely right. They set a rule, and they enforced it.
Isn't this (bolded) what the majority of included tours with Viking are? Sat on a bus, driving around a particular city being told its a 'panoramic' tour....
And i agree what MSC did was absolutely the correct thing...follow the rules or find your way home, especially when visiting a country with a known history of COVID outbreaks.
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not surprisingly the numbers continue to increase...
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will be interesting to see if they're allowed ashore or will it follow the others and be 'at sea' cruising only...
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Controversial medical practice
More than 50 people are now infected with the coronavirus after being on board "Roald Amundsen".
Director of Hurtigruten, Daniel Skjeldam, has always said that they have made their decisions based on the medical assessments from the medical team on board the ship.
The ship had two doctors on board. The Norwegian doctor was hired on a contract, and a doctor and two nurses from the Philippines on a contract through a staffing agency, according to Hurtigruten.
The Norwegian doctor was last deprived of his authorization in 2007, according to documentation NRK has obtained through access to the Norwegian Board of Health.
But health personnel can apply to get the authorization back, which the doctor received in January 2008. As mentioned earlier, the doctor has also received several warnings from the Norwegian Board of Health, and last received a warning in 2015.
He tells NRK that he has only been deprived of the authorization once.
NRK has received information from the Norwegian Board of Health that the doctor was deprived of authorization in 1996 and in 2007.
When NRK on Thursday asks the Norwegian doctor if Hurtigruten has been informed of previous loss of authorization, he says:
- I have not lost the authorization twice. It has absolutely nothing to do with this. It is inappropriate to pull this in, says the ship's doctor to NRK. He repeatedly encourages contact with Hurtigruten.
Key words for the background for the warnings he has previously received, and that his authorization has been withdrawn: incomplete, inadequate record keeping and indefensible medical activities.
According to the Norwegian Board of Health, the Norwegian doctor has on occasion provided health assistance beyond what he is qualified for.
According to the infection control plan for "Roald Amundsen", the doctor responsible for the vessel is responsible for requesting a coronal test, if someone becomes ill.
On Thursday, Tromsø municipality also confirmed to NRK that the Philippine doctor on board did not have Norwegian authorization.
NRK has several times tried to ask Hurtigruten which of the doctors was responsible, in line with the infection control plan, but has so far not received an answer.
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more bad PR for Hurtigruten....hiring a doctor with a questionable background
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12 minutes ago, mercury7289 said:
Viking Star and SeaDream 1 also have covid cases!
source?
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The size of the ship is irrelevant if the crew are not properly quarantined upon joining and prior to being put into general population especially if they're coming from 'high risk' countries.
Common sense goes a long way which is why it is sadly uncommon...
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and the fallout continues....not surprisingly i'm sure
https://www.nrk.no/norge/hurtigruten-stopper-all-cruisevirksomhet-1.15109225
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6 minutes ago, mercury7289 said:
It was reported, that ahead of resumption, the company had reassured guests in a blog post that it had strict regulations in place that go further then the international standards for the sector.
Obviously, did not work!
Of course they're going to say whatever they think they need to in order to get people onboard....the fact their idea of crew being in quarantine meant they could work as normal and simply not go ashore just says it all as to their so-called strict regulations.
To me its akin to Viking Ocean getting rid of their Chief Security Officers in favor of an unqualified navigational officer because they didn't see the need of having someone in that role onboard as we found out during our last cruise with them prior to the world going crazy.
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19 minutes ago, mercury7289 said:
Another ship Paul Gaugin cruising between Bora Bora and Rangiroa owners Ponant has been blighted with this virus. Guests told to stay in they cabins.
Is anyone remotely surprised to see this happening with a common denominator being a seemingly rushed return to service? Add to the fact the perceived arrogance of perhaps believing because they're operating a smaller operation that somehow they're in a better position to avoid an outbreak because they've not got thousands of people onboard?
I saw a blip on the news the other day clearly stating both Indonesia and the Philippines are the top two infected countries in SE Asia respectively, and as in the case of the idiots in the Hurtigruten offices they admit that the majority of their crew are coming from high risk countries yet they did nothing to keep them separate from the rest of the people onboard to ensure they weren't infected.
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1 hour ago, Britboys said:
Luxury line Crystal Cruises has cancelled all itineraries through to the end of 2020. Not sure what the itineraries were but they are generally world-wide in winter. They are offering FCC's of 125% to be used on any cruise up to 31 December 2023!
Not the official site, but some useful info
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and it continues to get worse....29 more cases onboard....what were they thinking trying to rush back into service...so stupid!
https://www.tv2.no/nyheter/11565352/?utm_source=upday&utm_medium=referral
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My guess is likely its one or two from Princess given they've been relatively unscathed so far as the 'loss' of the Grand and Star Princess were already planned long before the current shutdown, not to mention they're pushing hard to get more new builds online
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should read, "2 more ships to leave the Corporation" as opposed to the fleet given this is a P&O forum
https://cruiseradio.net/carnival-corp-sells-two-more-cruise-ships/
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15 minutes ago, kalos said:
Not if they pay the tax .How do P&O ferries do it otherwise ?
I can't see it being profitable enough for CUK to go down this road just to appease a minority of people who would take advantage of being on a cruise ship without actually cruising anywhere
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1 minute ago, davecttr said:
They won't be making much money from the casino anyway. Apparently with social distancing 3 people per card table is the limit and 3 or 4 for roulette, another down for the new normal. I like playing blackjack and only play on a cruise 😟
Completely agree, I've never seen the casino's busy on any of the cruises we've taken on P&O, whereas Princess, RCI, NCL its a different story
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Correct me if i'm wrong but I believe the casino and every other retail outlet cannot be opened while in port so they would have to go sail a distance before they could open anything not food or lounge related
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MSC resume cruising
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Completely agree! MSC is effectively the 'canary in the coal mine' and will surely look to focus on the positive aspects of their protocols, not the positive results of tests. This is not to say they won't have positive cases, but it will be how they and other companies handle those situations after embarkation as once you've left the berth is when the game truly begins. Its all well and good to test on embarkation day but from my understanding the tests being used only confirm or deny whether you're positive at the time of being tested, (i.e. is there enough viral load to trigger a positive response) not whether you're recently infected and not yet past the threshold of triggering a positive test result.
As for the cleaning, again I agree as we've been on B2B cruises with different lines where there's been elevated levels of Noro onboard and despite all of the announcements being made and letters sent to rooms reminding people to wash their hands, etc. we didn't see any increase in actual cleaning being done onboard with the majority of times those tasked with cleaning just going through the motions. I'm not saying this is as a blanket example for the industry but the Diamond Princess fiasco definitely showed a reckless approach IMO when it came to how to deal with an outbreak, especially when you consider how much spread continued after the fact that all of the passengers were supposed to be in quarantine. Hopefully we don't see another outbreak on any ship, but i fear there will no doubt be some complacency in protocols over time driven by the need to make up for lost revenue.