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So, no one knows if the Splendor has starlink? I guess I will ask John Heald.

It is Australia to Singapore.

I think because it takes so much longer to go around the horn of Africa as compared to through the Suez Canal. However, I personally would rather skip some of the Spain/Portugal ports and have still gone to Phuket, Bali, etc. I don't see why they couldn't have kept some of the Asian ports. They literally cut them ALL out.

Yes! And I am super excited. The revised itinerary came out last week for our Princess world cruise segment and it had us going from Sydney to Barcelona with stops at 1 other Australian port, South Africa, 1 stop at some other African country, 1 stop at some Portugues island, Gibraltar (already been), 2 Spain stops at places we have already been, and ending in Barcelona (also where we have been twice)...and 31 sea days on a 41 day cruise. Originally we were supposed to go to Bali, Phuket, multiple other stops in Asia, Oman, Jordan, Israel, Greece, and end in Rome. There was even an excursion to the Taj Mahal we wanted to take! I get why they changed it. I really do. But that doesn't mean I want to drop 25k for the cruise plus the price of the airline tix plus 41 days of no work/no income for my husband to spend 3/4 of the cruise on sea days and half the other stops at places we have already been. So, I started searching other Australia/Asian sailings and saw they had two really great rooms next to one another on the Splendor. It doesn't have as many Asian stops as we were originally supposed to have on the Princess world cruise, but it is a FRACTION of the price...and certainly has more than the current Princess w.c. has. I also really love the Splendor's layout despite the weird pink circle decor. We got two of the scenic ocean view rooms with the floor-to-ceiling windows. I have always wanted to cruise in one of those rooms! And hubs even got a casino deal where he got $750 OBC and a pretty cheap room. I, unfortunately, did not get the casino offer but it still wasn't a bad price for a 16 day cruise stopping at some really cool places even at the "regular" VIFP rate.

I am not holding my breath as we are about to cancel our Princess WC segment because it was re-routed in such a terrible way that we completely skipped Asia and the middle east and it was literally the Asia/ME segment of the cruise! 31 sea days on a 41 day cruise. I know Carnival Corp isn't responsible for the Houthi attacks in the Red Sea but d**n, how can you just completely skip an entire continent and call it a w.c.??? We are now doing a Sydney to Singapore cruise instead.

I convinced my husband and younger son to go with us on our Sydney to Singapore cruise. (Originally, it was just going to be older son and I.) The room next to us came open and I found us business award flights home (still working on flights out there) and hubs decided he would go. My question is this: What will the wifi be like on the Splendor? Hubs would like to keep in touch with his office. We took Splendor to alaska and the wifi wasn't great, but I know they also have gotten star link on many of the ships since then. Does anyone know?

Well, I can't seem to find anything about travel insurance on these Australian cruises so I ended up buying an online travel medical policy through nationwide and if I use Amex to pay for the entire trip, it will provide trip interuption so I guess I am just going to do that...

Question 1: Is the carnival insurance not offered on Australian/Asia cruises to US residents? I am about to finalize my booking for a Sydney to Singapore cruise and it is not offering me the option of insurance as far as I can tell. Question 2: What does it cover? I have a platinum amex that covers for free trip interruption, delay, etc. but it doesn't appear to cover any emergency medical or accidental bodily injury. Does the carnival insurance cover this?

So, my Princess world cruise "segment" that was supposed to go from Australia to Asia to Middle East to Europe was re-routed so that it is now a 41-day cruise with 31 sea days with no stops in Asia or Middle East. Further, I have been to 1/3 of the ports it goes to already and have no interest in a couple of the others. I am canceling it and started looking for a substitute. There are not very many summer cruises to Asia other than just the ones that go around Japan. However, I found the Carnival Splendor going from Australia to Singapore July 21 to August 5th. It is less than 3 months away but was able to find 2 reward Biz tickets to Australia and 2 more reward biz from Singapore back to Houston. Husband can't go on short notice and my younger son said he didn't want to go. Older son is all in, though, and super excited. So, it will be and my 11-year-old going around the world...literally. Will anyone else be on this cruise: Sydney to Singapore July 21 to August 5? Anything I should know? Any tips on traveling in this part of the world?

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I got the email regarding the actual schedule for the re-routing. It is ~30 sea days and 8-10 ports...many of which I have no desire to go to or have already been to. Not even slightly recognizable as the same initial itinerary that went to Asia and Middle East and many bucket list destinations. Not even ending at the same place Not stopping at even one single port in Asia or Middle East. I will be cancelling.

Thank you for answering my question. I was supposed to be on the 36-day leg/legs from Sydney to Rome through the Suez Canal. I am hoping they re-book us on the South Africa to either the Med or Dover if the route for 2025 is the same as 2024 rather than the 19-day Australia to South Africa that only stops a couple of places in Australia.

This is the Princess board. I am talking about the Princess world cruises. The original itinerary for *all* of the Princess world cruises go through the Suez Canal. I am on the summer 2025 Crown Princess sailing from Sydney.

It said that by the end of April they would let us know, but that they weren't going through the Suez Canal. Let me see if I can attach a copy here.

I got a letter re my summer 2025 w.c. being re-routed. We are on the segment that was supposed to go from Australia to Rome through the Suez Canal. For those of you who were booked on this segment for the 2024 cruise, did you get re-booked for the 19-day segment from Australia to South Africa or the 37-day segment from South Africa to London? I am hoping I get rebooked for the SA to London because I don't care about floating around in the Indian Ocean for 2+ weeks.

I was looking at the cruise when panorama leaves dry dock in Singapore and there don't appear to be any Havana rooms available for booking. I looked at it when it first came out and there weren't any either. I do not believe given the open availability otherwise of this cruise that the Havana rooms are all booked up. Are they not going to have the Havana rooms after dry dock?

Is there a way to pay for princess excursions with a princess gift card? On the website, it appears to only allow me to either pay with a credit card or paypal.

If this is still going on in summer 2025, we will be canceling. I am not flying from Texas to Sydney, Australia and spending all but 3 or 4 of our 36 days at sea.

It goes Sydney, Brisbane, Airlie Beach, Bali, Singapore, Phuket, Sri. Lanka, Salalah, Aqaba (Jordan), Suez Canal, Israel (obviously not going), Crete, Naples, and Rome. So do you think they would head down to the Africa after Sri Lanka? I am anxious to hear what the route will be as I am on this 36-day leg next year (2025). I am starting to wonder if I should plan an alternative trip. They have some nice ones on Oceania and Azamara that just stick to East Asia. I did Princess because of my kids and wanting to see the middle east, but that's more and more sounding like it will be out.

So, what ports are they skipping to make up for the extra time it is taking to sail around Africa?

Any updates? I guess Poesia is going around Africa.

Carnival has no claim against he OP or the original fraudster because they knew about the claim and sat on it and did nothing. Tolling of a statute of limitations would not enter into the scenario you are painting. Carnival knew about the charge back so the SOL would not be tolled. Tolling would have only come into play if Carnival had just found out about the fraud. For example, if someone buys a house with a defect that the prior owner purposefully covers up then the SOL would be "tolled" until the buyer discovered the hidden defect and THEN it would start to run. Carnival knew about this situation all along so none of their claims would be tolled. OP could bring a claim against them for holding on to his deposit because that is a new claim. The only place "tolling" would enter into the discussion is if OP wanted to pursue the original fraudster agent because OP knew absolutely nothing about the original fraud. Since he can't even find him, that's a non-issue. OP has a right to his deposit back because Carnival no longer has any claim against anyone regarding the money from 7 years ago. Not even thefraudfeasor. Even if the OP was the actual fraudfeasor, Carnival STILL couldn't keep his deposit for a different cruise at this point. Their claim from seven years ago doesn't exist anymore. At this point, I have to bow out of this discussion. I try to make it a point not to argue with non-lawyers about the law because I have already spent enough of my life arguing with lawyers about the law. OP: I wish you the best of luck. Get your ducks in a row with your paperwork (as much as you still have) and then create an outline or letter detailing the rest. (I personally would present it in a signed, sworn and notarized affidavit to show you are telling the truth. The IRS accepts this as proof so Carnival can as well.) Present it to guest care or one of John Heald's helpers and hopefully that will be enough to get you off the "no sail" list. At a minimum, it should at least get you your deposit back.

Also, I hate when someone is bamboozled by a fraudster and everyone blames the victim or says "Well, I wouldn't have used Zelle" or "this and that should have been a red flag." Come on. Most people don't go around living their lives like that. People who run these sorts of criminal enterprises set them up to fool even the most discerning customer. They have websites, store fronts, referrals, the proper business affiliations (usually fake), the proper licensing (also usually fake), the proper insurance papers (they pay for it than drop it), etc. How do you think Madoff and R. Allan Stanford bamboozled people out of billions? I worked on the civil side of the Stanford case and some of my clients were people who highly successful businesses worth tens of millions who were fooled by him. Yes, I know a travel agent isn't on his level but when someone comes as a referral and looks legitimate with a legit page, 98 percent of people wouldn't look further than that. Heck, it may even be that the business started out as a legitimate business and then that particular agent started doing this to make extra money. So, OP's friend could have had a good experience.

Neither of those matter in this situation unless OP wanted to sue the original bad actor. Then, yes, it may be that the SOL on his civil claims against the agent would have tolled because he was unaware of the fraud. But then you get into questions of whether the OP should have known, etc. For this amount of money, it is unlikely it would be worth a lawyer taking that on...especially when no one knows where the agent is. The statute of limitations that I am referring to is that Carnival could have pursued the OP for the fraudulent charge back. They didn't. That statute of limitations has undoubtedly run so, therefore, they cannot then take OP's money they paid for another service (a new cruise) and keep for themselves for a claim they never pursued. They sat on their rights and so they lost them. Their claim to that money and right to pursue OP for that money, has expired. They can exclude whomever they want from their ships but keeping money for an expired claim (which is effectively no claim at all) is not legal. The entire reason for running a statute of limitations is for this exact situation. If Carnival had original sued OP for the money, then OP could have sued the original bad actor and the situation hopefully resolved. Now, seven years later, he probably won't even be able to find him/her. DISCLAIMER: I am an attorney, but not an attorney for anyone on this page. Nothing I say should be considered legal advice.

Many legitimate businesses don't accept Amex. The reason is because it charges a significantly higher processing fee. Most businesses of the size of a travel agency having a credit card processing company that charges around 2.2 to 2.4 percent (some slight lower and some slightly higher) to process credit cards. Amex's fee is closer to 4 percent while Visa, MC, Discovery all charge lower fees. I would not personally take it as a red flag that a business didn't take Amex. Now if they didn't take ANY credit cards...that's a different story.