Eli_6

I am not continuing to argue with yall. I wasn't on the ship and I have no dog in this fight. I don't agree with you on the reasonableness of a piddly $200 pittance as recompense for not going to Greenland on a cruise that Carnival undoubtedly advertised as a Greenland cruise and charged "Greenland" prices for. Despite what the cruise contract says, there are still consumer laws which prevent a cruise company from advertising one thing and delivering another. Carnival may have an out with the reason for not going being an act of God/the weather. But as a general rule, Carnival absolutely does have a duty to deliver what they advertise and sell...as does any business. Not to mention the fact it is just bad business. I am willing to bet a lot of the people on that Greenland cruise will never cruise with Carnival again. If they had given them even a small FCC, that story might be different. It is easier to keep a customer than gain a new one.

As an aside, I agree with you on this last statement. That does seem to have been the situation before Covid. But things seem to be different now. I am sure it is because they are strapped for cash, but I think in this situation they are being penny wise and pound foolish.

You are correct. I don't expect them to sail through a hurricane. I do think they should have given the customers some sort of FCC that would at least have given them a head start towards taking another cruise. The cruise was undoubtedly billed and advertised as a cruise to Greenland. The prices on those Greenland sailings were literally running $7k-8k for a balcony when I priced them. $200 per person of OBC is downright insulting. A 25 or 30 percent FCC (like what NCL did in the same situation) is more in line with what should have been done in this situation. In fact, it was what WAS done when the initial Mardi Gras TA sailing was canceled...and it was even canceled a year-and-a-half out! (Guests were given a full refund and 25 percent FCC to use on a future sailing.) When we had a Vista sailing canceled because of propulsion issues, we got a 100 FCC (plus full refund of cruise.) I don't expect them to do that, but something like what they did with the Mardi Gras delay would have been appropriate. Presumptively the difference between then and now is Carnival was in a better financial situation back then because that was pre-Covid. However, I don't think they are going to get back to being solvent by screwing over their best customers...and I guarantee the people on a Greenland cruise are generally speaking the people with the money and time to cruise frequently and not the blue cards who are cruising because they got a $99 deal for an inside cabin. It seems like Carnival is more worried about just getting new cruisers in the door with super low rates who will probably never cruise again than keeping their current loyal customers and treating them well. This Greenland cruise is just another example in a long line of examples.

So if you paid $8k+ (which is what the rooms were running for a balcony) for a Greenland cruise on an old boat about to go into dry dock in order to go to Greenland (on a cruise that was billed as a Greenland cruise and had a price to match) and then did not go to Greenland, you would feel that $200 on board credit was adequate compensation? I find that VERY hard to believe.

I check my credit cards regularly, too, and have my alerts set to send me texts or emails for certain suspicious activity like online purchases and foreign purchases. I was able to catch fraudulent charges on my card within an hour or two last time some went on my card. However, my point to the post was just that the "Amazon" scam is actually a real scam. It sounds farfetched, I know, but it actually is happening.

My take away from this thread is that I'm not booking a cruise to Greenland...at least not with Carnival. And missing a single port is not the same as missing the entire country. It would be like taking a cruise to Alaska and not going to Alaska. Or taking a cruise to Hawaii and just floating around in the Pacific Ocean and then turning back to California.

Me, too. Just got the $129 credit back a couple of days ago. I think the trick is to do it one transaction and just put it towards the cruise.

And fwiw, I dealt with insurance companies for over a decade (often times resorting to suing them) and I also think insurance is primarily a scam. They write the policies in such a way that it is a flip of a coin whether they will pay. They have a team of attorneys figuring out ways to NOT pay you. (I also used to work with a fellow attorney who had been an insurance attorney and his stories were bad.) When our house flooded with 7+ feet of Water in Harvey, I had to fight them for 9 months to get paid. Home insurance wouldn't pay (as they shouldn't) because it was flood damage. And flood insurance said my damage (from 7 feet of water mind you!!!) was undamaged. They even sent out an unlicensed "expert" structural engineer and took pics of the undamaged portions of my house and claimed that there was no damage. If I had not been a lawyer who literally practiced in this arena, I would have been screwed. Similarly, my husband recently was owed over 50k by Aetna due to their screw up. He didn't get paid for a 5 months period for over a year because they lost a contract. It took me blasting out a demand letter to every board member and the CEO for him to finally get paid a year later. Probably 200+ hours were spend by him and his staff trying to collect this money. And I have seen it worse in a business situation where companies owed millions in liability and had to be sued to be paid. Took it all the way up to the 5th circuit and won. So, 7 years after the claim, my client was finally paid. SEVEN years and 100k in attorney fees. But the company wins at this game because most people won't fight it for seven years and don't have 100k to spend in lawyer fees. I have hundreds of other stories like this. Every insurance company out there makes money by NOT paying you. Some are worse than others. Yes, I still have home owners insurance, professional liability insurance, car insurance, and health insurance. But for anything that won't be "catastrophic" to my financial situation, I don't buy insurance for. And a lot of credit cards provide travel insurance if you pay with them anyway...including even car insurance.

This actually is a legitimate Amazon scam. They send packages you didn't order to your address, and charge your card. Oh, and they send you some item of little value and overcharge you for it. When you try to dispute it with the cc company, the seller shows them a pic of what was delivered to you by amazon so you look like the liar and they get to keep the money. And the seller is someone who doesn't take returns or you can't find a return address or they claim you are not sending back the item they sent you. My Mom had a friend who had this happen to her.

Then how much more upset do the people on this cruise have a right to be because they didn't get Greenland or Norway or a 30 percent FCC???

Free drink? Do you get a free drink for being the first on board?

I think if people had received a 30 percent FCC and alternative ports, they would have been a heck of a lot happier than a pittance of $200 per person OBC.

Welp, I can say after reading this thread that if I do ever book a Greenland cruise, it won't be on Carnival.

Yeah, the only time I have been on a cruise following dry dock, it boarded late.

Wow! That must be a record.

I have tried doing that and it didn't work. Either I am not losing enough to warrant their offers or I am not in their target demographic.

I agree. I remember pricing those cruises and they were incredibly pricey...like 6k-8k for a balcony and 10k+ for a suite. Even the inside rooms were 4k-5k.

So the Greenland cruise didn't go to Greenland? 😮 And they only offered $400 per cabin as recompense?

On the Vista class ships, can you get the Carnival drinks that you get at other bars (Fun Ship, Twilight Zone, etc.) at the Havana bar? Last time I was in the Havana area was pre-Covid and I don't remember. I was looking at the Havana bar menu and it didn't look like it had a lot of sweet drinks on it and I like sweet drinks.

With priority boarding - i.e. suite, FTTF, or Plat/Diamond. Just curious.

I don't think we are cruising on a casino offer. If we are, it wasn't a very good offer...

My survey still isn't working.

I got the following email from the casino, but when I try to click on the "Let's Begin" button, it doesn't work. Has anyone ever gotten this email before? What is it about? I have never received it before. Dear ----, Your cruise is just around the corner, and we still haven’t heard from you! As part of our Voice of the Player program, the casino staff would like to know if playing in the casino fits into your time aboard the Carnival Vista®? We only need 3 minutes of your time. To get started click the button below; there are only a few days left. Let's Begin Thank you,

Anyone know what the September movies are on the Vista? Not just Dive In, but also in the theatre on Vista? Looked on JH's page and couldn't find any info. In particular, I am really wanting to see A Haunting in Venice.

NOTE: It all needs to be in one transaction. So, if you have the 15%, you need to buy like $860 in one transaction to max out the benefit.