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59 minutes ago, Tree_skier said:

Yes a soup cup for coffee would ruin everything..

The problem is that so many cruise (or vacation) SO much that it is not even appreciated anymore. I am MORE than happy to deal with almost anything on vacation as I am so grateful for just having the opportunity. People are spoiled.

59 minutes ago, Tree_skier said:

Maybe I should get a booster every month and test every day.  I should possibly be safe then.

🤣

1 hour ago, Tree_skier said:

I have Harmony scheduled for Dec. 2023... I hope everything will be OK.  Should I cancel?

Never mind, I kept reading lol

10 hours ago, Ukigirl said:

Oh last pics, missing my closet at home . 

Are there ANY "cheaper" LV items on the cruises? lol

54 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

Kinda setting your expectations pretty low

 

I'm fine with quarantine. I'm not fine with people living in denial

What did people do before Covid who got sick? Just stayed in their room, correct?

18 minutes ago, John&LaLa said:

 

It will be less of a problem as more folks get vaccinated 😉

Yeah exactly what we were told lol

17 minutes ago, not-enough-cruising said:

My point exactly; if they can disinfect the carpet and mattress, the industrial washers and dryers on board will easily disinfect the linens. 

It’s a virus. Do people throw away their linens at home when they get sick? 

3 hours ago, not-enough-cruising said:

Oh well, at the end of the day; I don’t care how many positive cases are on-board. We are past that phase of Covid; we have learned a lot, it just doesn’t matter. 

Everything in my ER, ICU, and CCU have returned to basically normal pre 2020 operations. My mindset, whether I’m on a ship, plane, or land, has likewise returned to a pre 2020 state. 

At this point it should be treated as a virus and testing needs to stop and people need to use common sense and stay home if possible and stay away from others if not. Many of us have been living pre Covid for at least a year now if not more. 

26 minutes ago, Cruise a holic said:

What we would do if we wanted to eat in the WJ we made sure we went in first.  Really made me nauseous when I would see people eating from their plate, licking their fingers then touching the serving spoons or forks- also some would with their hands, pick up food- a roll for example then change their mind and put back and pick up something else-  Although you really don't know what goes on in the kitchen- or with your waiter- given the option,  we prefer wait service.

 

Not everyone washs after they use the bathroom!  YUK

I get that and yeah, I think we all know this is nothing new with many people. I just don't think about it lololol

1 hour ago, Cruise a holic said:

I haven't followed this entire thread and my question might have been answered.  On our Celebrity cruise this past March, at the buffet- it was entirely served by the employees- no dirty hands or people touching everything and putting items back.

 

 Can we expect this level of service in August on the Oasis?  If no- we will avoid the Windjammer.

Self serve was reinstated for RCCL. Did you avoid the WJ before Covid?

24 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:

Technically yes, though I doubt you'll see RC's vax requirements relaxed as a result. 

Agreed

7 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:

Covid on board must not be much of a problem since the CDC just lowered the vax threshold from 95% to 90%

Is that including adults?

1 hour ago, Sunshine3601 said:

I do not see the need to be vaccinated going away anytime soon.     Testing yes that will stop as long as we don't have more variants that create an issue.

I know, this is the last thing I have to be vaccinated for 😞

12 minutes ago, Keksie said:

All these protocols - masks (yes, no, half way through), testing (getting the results in time, is it the right test, how many days before), contact tracing and possible isolation, positive test and quarantine in a lesser cabin, make a cruise not seem worth being at sea.  Spending my vacation money places that don't require all that and it doesn't matter what the % of covid is.

I have been waiting 4 years to go on vacation and this is our 3rd try from 2 cruises cancelled. I am still not vaccinated and holding out and hoping the testing is stopped by then. It is a lot, I agree and if we didn't have money invested, we would probably do something else too.

9 minutes ago, mar915 said:

In open areas yes, I am just more concerned with the idea of quarintine in a room on the ship.  Outside I am not planning just if there is a long wait in the area or perhaps in the showroom sitting for one hour.  I am not a masker going to the store or anything, in fact my son had his wedding in January during omicron outbreak.  If I was home I wouldn't be concern.  

Yeah I get the quarantine and that would stink. 

4 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:

No one has ever gotten covid from 2 minutes in an elevator. Just like no one has ever gotten covid walking from the entrance to a restaurant to their table.

Exactly as the CDC and the WH says you need to be less than 6 feet for a total of 15 minutes or more.

15 minutes ago, DeputyDawg46 said:

Something is not working if 3% test positive.  Elevators were extremely crowded and no spacing in the shows could be a contributing cause.  Stayed out of elevators and selected seating away from crowd.  Must have worked as not tested positive.

Or the tests are incorrect.

12 minutes ago, smokeybandit said:

Could be a strategic move on RC's part to undercut the CDC's incessant push for testing.

Ahh maybe. I hope they stop that too for my summer cruise 🙂

3 minutes ago, Sunshine3601 said:

As of April 30th Royal will no longer pay for quarantine expenses, per their website.   They recommend travel insurance.      

Maybe that will keep the amount of people running to get tested to a minimum then. Even covid tests are not free anymore on land.

28 minutes ago, sherman931 said:

Just got off the Allure (8 day Caribbean cruise). We docked in FLL on Saturday May 28. I live in Palm Beach county so no airport or flights home. Less than 2 days later Mon May 30 I became symptomatic and tested positive for Covid. The timing leads me to conclude I was infected while on board Allure during the latter days of the cruise. Immediately went into self isolation. Symptoms match what one would experience with a severe cold. A little concerned that the cruise lines are not being transparent about Covid. No questions about Covid on the post cruise survey - ignorance is bliss. 

We have to live with Covid and for MOST it IS just a cold now. Do they ask on the survey about other illnesses you might have gotten after the cruise too?

29 minutes ago, mar915 said:

Going in 9 days, I don't mask at home but I am planning on masking in busy area such as waiting to be seated, in shows and at the buffet. I am also keeping hand sanitizer to use after we go up to the buffet. I was surprised they have it back to pre covid but with the lack of staff I  sure that is why. I also told my mom we will skip the disco party in the packed areas. My son back from college won't be happy about the mask but he starts a job 2 days after vacation and I work in Healthcare so it's a simple thing for us to do. My mom is also with us vaccinated and double boosted and I know she would were a mask.  I am not overally concerned about getting covid but if I can prevent it I am willing to be more careful.

You have never been in any crowded areas, unmasked in the last year? 

1 hour ago, BND said:

I don't think so as I don't know anyone who had the impact that a very, very few have reported.  I think it's more common than the media leads people to believe.  Our church has over 1,000 regular attendees and we lost  2 elderly who also had other major medical issues and no one that was healthy and our church is very diverse across age and race.   Everyone else I know who had it just didn't get that sick.  At this point, positives just really don't matter much just like the flu, it's a minor inconvenience for those that have any symptoms at all.   Numbers will never be zero, like the flu, pneumonia and other viruses that people basically ignore every year.   As more and more countries are doing,  they've stopped counting cases as they means nothing.  Counting hospitalizations is more important and shows the true story.

 

Exactly. The media increases this and makes people fear. They need to turn off the TV, stop reading the news online and just go and live. Be cautious, especially if you have issues but you should have been doing that before this. 

2 hours ago, hortoni said:

We just got off the Wonder yesterday as well.  It's interesting that 3% is 10x the number required for the CDC to label a ship as red.  Wonder is no longer in US waters so it's not listed on the CDC site anymore.  I think the real number is likely much higher than 3%.  There was lots of coughing and sniffling going on everywhere for the last 4-5 days.  Without debarkation testing there's no way to know the true number.  We went from the ship to the airport and stood in line for the pre-flight covid testing.  Lots of people wearing royal caribbean face masks and lots of coughing.  Unfortunately both my wife and I tested positive without any real symptoms at the time.  I always have allergies so  I would equate the symptoms to just that.  We're now stuck in Barcelona at a hotel for the next 5-10 days.  I'm still doing fine except for an new bad headache but my wife is having a much rougher time of it.  We're both in good health, fully vaccinated with 2 boosters and as careful as possible.

 

We loved the cruise and the crew and staff generally did a fantastic job.  I think the biggest risk point was the self-serve buffet.  There were way too many people rubbing their faces and then grabbing the serving spoons.  The tables were wiped between each guest but I wouldn't really call it a disinfection.  I never saw things like salt/pepper shakers getting wiped down.

 

I'm not saying people shouldn't cruise.  Evaluate the risks on your own but I'd recommend taking extra care in certain areas.  It's easy to get complacent when you see everyone else acting normal.

This is allergy season as well as people get colds. I have been doing normal things since May of 2020 and normal public things since May of 2021. I have never gotten covid, without a vaccine and have had a few colds, like normal. 

5 minutes ago, cruise1957 said:

And could be way less effective than immunity from having covid, as my husband did, but they don't ask about that.

Nope they won't allow that either. It all makes no sense at all.

2 hours ago, cementhands said:

Smile from ear to ear! 😊
Smiles will returned! 🤣

Enjoy and let loose you’ll never ever see these people again 😇

Unless you go viral lololol