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16 minutes ago, Loreni said:

19 crew!  I read an article about the Diamond quarantine that said sick crew were sharing cabins with healthy crew DURING the quarantine.  What?  I hope this in not happening on the Grand.

On CNN now.

Dr.Faci warned  elderly, and those with underlying health conditions to avoid crowds, that also includes cruises. High fatality risk..

Passenger and crew to be quarantined at military bases.

V.P. Pence just announced so far, 2 passengers and 19 crew members tested positive for Civid 19.  Does not look like the Grand will be allowed to dock in San Francisco anytime soon.

What if the Grand is not allowed to dock in San Francisco?   What happens next?   Where would they be able to dock?

15 minutes ago, disneycruisinsusan said:

 

 

This is a long time post, but full of interesting facts about Corona Viruses....

 

They were able to contain SARS, as it was in only a couple of select areas  (clusters) (Toronto mainly, a few other places and of course the source in China)and never really went beyond that! That is why it did not break out pandemically! They caught it and got it under control quickly! 

 

THIS current virus was out there BEFORE some of the carriers were symptomatic and that is why you had the "unexplained" cases! People flew back from China BEFORE the Chinese finally copped to what was going on there in Wuhan! Remember, they silenced the first doctor who tried to tell the WHO about it...He later died from it himself!! 😞😞 

 

So it was out in the world before anyone knew it was around! Everyone thought that it was just in China at that point, but it had already caught flights to other countries out of China!  And the Chinese government tried to keep it under wraps and not warn the WHO! That was the main reason it spread so quickly! China's deceotion! 😠😠 People had flown home from China to other countries or Chinese people flew to other countries on business or for family and exposed others VERY EARLY ON, BEFORE ANYONE EVEN KNEW WHAT THE HECK IT WAS!!!!

 

That's why it spread so quickly in Italy, Hong Kong, and Seattle. Someone who had it, flew into Seattle and then at some point either exposed someone else who went to the  nursing home or they themselves went to the nursing home and exposed all those elderly people. The person may not have even known they even had it! That's why Seattle had so many cases and deaths so quickly! They were all in the same nursing home, elderly patients!

 

That is the difference between why SARS did not spread and this did! SARS (Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome) is a very nasty Corona Virus itself. It was the first one that came from China between November of 2002- January of 2003. The WHO called it out in March 2003 and alerted the world medical officials about it and it was around in clusters for a couple years. But they were able to control the cluster outbreaks, then there was another slight surge of it in 2004 and then it all but disappeared! SARS is VERY virulent and nasty!

 

MERS, (Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome), also a Corona Virus, was not as virulent. I believe they suspected camels as the host animal for it. It was contained very rapidly without spreading! 

 

And now COVID-19! This is the third Corona Virus that we know about that has spread to humans from animals. And it is nasty to those who are older or compromised, but young, healthy people should get no more than a mild case or some may have a bit worse case, but they should recover well! It has spread quickly because of our world being so connected! And the fact that when one is asymptomatic, they can travel and spread it without knowing! That and the fact that it was already spreading while China stonewalled the Health Organizations! 

 

This is where the big question comes in! Can I get it again? Again, I personally believe active immunity plays a huge role in viral infection. That is,  if you have had something, you are less likely to get it again for most viruses. THAT IS MY PERSONAL OPINION, NOT FACT BASED ON RESEARCH. BUT, because we have never seen this particular virus before,  they do not know for sure, because this is a very new virus to humankind. It's been out there for probably hundreds, if not thousands of years, just like other microbes and the conditions at that nasty Wuhan market were just right for animal to human transfer! They call it zoonotic when humans can catch something from animals. Many animal diseases we just cannot catch, like Parvo in dogs, Distemper in both dogs and cats, but some can cross over species liked the Corona Viruses! Corona Viruses are obviously zoonotic, as all three have affected humans! 

 

So, to be clear, the scientists and health professionals don't know enough about this Coronavirus to know if it creates immunity as many other viruses do!  THEY JUST DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT YET,  TO SAY WHETHER OR NOT A PERSON CAN CATCH IT AGAIN! But they will find out if the body builds immunity to it. They will discover so many of the secrets this little microbe has! They will know so much about this virus, the information will fill thick books! 👍👍

 

Now we have our virologists, epidemiologists, and other amazing lab people and techs trying to take this virus apart to find it's weakness, to find where we can stop it or at least weaken it! I have great hope that they will do it! I have worked in a lab with a microscope and seen what can be done in that tiny world under the lens! I have not worked in a CDC lab, or used an electron microscope and I have never tried to take apart a virus to find it's weakness, to be sure, but I know how dedicated these folks are! k

 

Don't listen to the government bull, listen when the Health Officials are talking! Listen to what they say! Follow their directions! WASH YOUR HANDS!!!!  👐👍 Keep wet wipes or hand sanitizer with you and wipe your hands whenever you have touched anything! Don't touch your face! Stay a good distance from others if you are able to!  Don't shake hands, 👋high five, ✋or fist bump 👊! Try to keep touching others to an absolute minimum unless you know for sure they are negative! 

 

I don't go out of the house much, except when we cruise or travel, too busy studying up on the Coronavirus right now, (I like to stay as informed as much as possible on new developments in the Health Industry and what is new in the microbe world and this is the most important thing going on in the world right now!!) I also love reading, taking care of things at home and unfortunately,  I catch things too easily, ( I can catch everything that is going around, especially respiratory things and get Bronchitis, colds, flu, tonsillitis, and have very bad allergies to a lot of pollens, dust and other allergens)  so my hubby does most of the shopping and I make him wash his hands as soon as he walks in the door!  I make sure he has wet ones or hand sanitizer at the store!

 

I have been to the hospital more times than I care to think about in the past 2 weeks for MRI, Catscan, Bone Density scan, X-Rays and Doctor Appts.and I hate going there! I have severe Osteoporosis (thanks mom, for the genetic gift! 😕) very painful spine issues and really bad knees, so we are trying to figure out what to do! I carry sanitizer or wet wipes everywhere! I wash my hands obsessively! But I have cats that I am allergic to 😞😞 (I won't get rid of my 3 furkids!!😻😻😻) and I love to pet them so I  Do have to wash my hands very often! 

 

Just use common sense and take care of yourselves...eventually this WILL burn out, like most viruses do, but in the meantime people are going to get sick and it will take some time to get through. Let's all try not to panic and be patient and do our best to do the right hygienic things! We can do this together! 💙💙  We really can! 

 

We will get through this! Our society and financial markets may take a beating, but we as a human race will bounce back from this one. It is NOT a civilization ending event, by any means. We have seen people get well from it! We have seen some people exposed and not even catch it!  I am not trying to underplay it's serious nature, but common sense and our great health organizations will pull us through! This too shall pass....🙏🙏🙏🙏💙💙💙💙

Good summary.

But you left out advice to don’t cough or sneeze in your hand.  Cough on your arm/sleeve.  Use tissue and deposit it after use in a covered trash can.

19 hours ago, Ride-The-Waves said:

You are more likely to catch COVID-19 from your grocery cart than from a river cruise.  We have a two-week cruise through France scheduled and paid for starting early June and fully expect to make it.  Greatest challenge will likely be local and international check points and institutional "panic" causing cancellations of travel options.  "Wash hands frequently and do not touch fingers to face" - good advice anytime.

Thinking of taking my first river cruis, Prague to Budapest on Viking or Gate 1.
So, wondering if you are less likely to get infected with a cold, flu, or Covid 19 since smaller passenger count on a river cruise instead of thousands on an ocean cruise.  Do river cruise companies have CFAR insurance?

• And please, don’t cough in your hand.  Cough on your arm.  How many have seen passengers cough in their hand or not covering up when sneezing?  Seen too much of that. 😝

I bought more gold bars 2 weeks ago.  Glad I did.

I have  put options on CCL.  Stock drops 15% and going lower to day.   Was told CCL may suspend dividends.  Discontinue OBC.

Buy order at $11.

12 hours ago, gritsnc said:

With her coughing so much I guarantee she will be tested soon if she hasn't already. Good grief what a mess for the Princess cruise line!

So, did you notice she was coughing and covering mouth with her hand?   Guess they didn’t learn anything about coughing etiquette/not coughing in hand.   Nasty   Filthy behavior.
How about muster drill include a “show and tell” on how to properly cover up coughing (In the sleeve of arm, not in hand) and covering up sneezing?

5 minutes ago, partybarbie said:

Yes, I'm watching it now.  Governor is sending out test kits, via the Coast Guard, to the ship.  Ship isn't allowed to dock at this time.  He said there are possible cases on board.  Hopefully the suspect cases will test negative. 

How far are you from the person who died? He lived in Shasta (?)County or Butte County?

New briefing.  Governor of California has proclaimed a State of Emergency in California.  Serious indeed.

Possible ship quarantine. 

1 hour ago, KnowTheScore said:

 

Yep.  Every figure there is based on KNOWN cases and so is massively overstated.   There will be 1000s of people who have the virus and don't even know it, 1000s who have it and the symptoms are so mild they don't bat an eyelid and just treat it the same as any normal cold / flu virus and will never report it to anyone.   I would be hugely surprised if the ACTUAL mortality rates were not somewhere between 0.01% and 0.5%

 

I am terrible at math.  But today it has been  reported 154 people in USA confirmed to be infected with Corona virus, 16 dead.

15 hours ago, hawk/hornfan said:

No, sailing regardless. I am to old to be frighten by the  hysterics of the masses.

Now it is reported  Corona virus has a deadlier death rate than the flu.  Hope you are not in the high risk group.

Safe travels.   And stay healthy on your cruise.

1. Shrimp and grits

2. Chicken fried steak with country gravy

3. SOS 

Don’t they have Duty Free shops at FLL airport that sell alcohol?

Just curious , don’t they sell Gin in Canada?

Since you are a self declared Gin snob where do you buy it?

Enjoy your cruise.

2 hours ago, ghstudio said:

This has been a terrible year for allergies....eyes burning, sneezing, coughing and clearing throat....but no fever or sore throat.  Will princess even let me board?  If Princess refuses to let me board, will they refund or give me a credit for the full fare?

You should be able to board.   But,  you might get nasty looks from your fellow passengers if you are sneezing and coughing, thinking you are infected with the Corona virus.

Good luck.

Case of N95’s, nitrile gloves, Clorox wipes, and hand sanitizer.

1 hour ago, hobo1937 said:

Just reported Sonoma County CA has a second presumtive coronavirus case. The person was recently on a Mexico cruise from SF, which according  to the time frame was probably the Grand Princess. No evidence she contracted the virus on the ship or if she caught it before or after the cruise. They are trying to determine all that. 

Latest news say 7 people have died in the USA from being infected  with the Corona virus.

14 minutes ago, ducklite said:

Of course she was giving that type of advice.

 

My point is that just like with every other thing the media wants us to panic about, this too shall pass.

So far, only 2 in the USA have died.  In the Pacific Northwest.   Not in Florida.    As  you say,  all things shall pass.  When it’s your time, it’s your time.   Might as well go on that cruise that’s  been on your bucket list.  You never know how long you have before you

6 hours ago, Threedrones said:

Absolutely no problem cruising now. 

Enjoy your cruise.

Some good deals now for cruises next few months to Mediterranean especially Italy, and France.  

Also deals for cruises going to Japan,  S. Korea,  S.E Asia four months from now to 2021.

Enjoy scoring a great cruise at a cheap price.

1 hour ago, darinscruising said:

Just go...  Life is too short, enjoy yourselfs, .....just got diagnosed  with  cancer,  start chemo  a few  days  before  I get on the sky , (march 14),  I am going,  53 years old,  )...

 

Better take that cruise now.  Life is too short.  You never know..

Your immune system will be severely compromised since you are just starting chemo.  Take all necessary cautions when on board.  And bring at least one months supply of meds, masks, hand sanitizer, and disinfection wipes.. just in case.
Enjoy your cruise.

Doe the Viking insurance cover trip interruptions  from Corona virus?

Have you considered booking a private tour?

Enjoy.

On 2/27/2020 at 9:53 AM, tgallag said:

 

We are flying into Venice and will spend a couple days there before going to Rome for cruise departure.

 

Any recommendations on how to get there? Train is appealing but between talk of pickpockets and 2 of us managing 3 suitcases gives us pause. Appreciate any insight.

 

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3 hours ago, tgallag said:

Good info, thank you all. Seems like luggage will be manageable and we are going to Rome proper. So high-speed train it will be.

Getting from Rome to the port the next day will be another research project although I'm not too concerned with that.

Thanks

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You can fly direct from Venice.  Or take the train through Milan.  
Enjoy your trip to Italy.

On 2/29/2020 at 1:13 PM, sunbrookgal said:

With  travel restrictions now expanding to the Italian regions of Emilia-Romagna, Lombardy and Veneto. As documented on the RCL web page. Will RCL be looking to move Venice off the port list and redirect? 

What month is your cruise to Italy?