DennysDad

Time to put that ship to sleep

Maybe it's because I'm using a phone and not computer?

Make that end of July.

I still don't see it.

Never look at percentage off. They adjust the price before they change the percentages. Only look at price.

Mona Gutierrez <mgutierrez@rccl.com> Can't make guarantees since you already sent to there system directly. You probably are already assigned. The system itself doesn't send confirmation. It's not necessary, but she always does. Give it a shot.

When is travel date?

I just received a confirmation email for my table request in the same screen shot computer format as above. Has all my details on it like the above example does. So they still do it.

Everyone wash your hands. The amount of people who use the toilet on a cruise ship and leave without washing there hands is ridiculous. Basic hygiene folks.

(Speaking for someone else) I think the overall point is a gratuity is a tip. We tip those who we come in contact with, who directly provide us a service and provide it well. The back end people (dishwashers etc) should be paid by their employer out of profits from our cruise fare and are not our problem or our concern. No amount of debate and/or especially guilt tripping is going to change this opinion.

They agree to this arrangement. We don't. I was not there promising this to people who signed a work contract. That is there problem, not mine.

This helps nothing. I paid a fare for the cruise. Saying gratuity is really someone's wage makes me care even less. I paid to board the ship. I'm not a business owner. These people's wages are not my responsibility or problem. Your argument above only proves the point even further that people should remove. Royal Caribbean pays wages, customers pay a fare. They have employees, we don't.

Those other people should be salary only and if they are not, it isn't the customers problem.

You know what I think it is. We tip people we come into contact with. People we observe doing something for us. Wait staff, drivers, housekeeping, etc. Even food delivery (we are not there to see the driving, but we still come face to face upon arrival.) The automatic gratuities added is to supplement the salary of workers we don't see. It's because corporate CEO's are overpaid and think nothing of their employees or their customers. And put their financial burden of wages on their "loyal" customers. It's unfair, unnatural, and wrong. I don't tip laundry staff in a hotel. Kitchen staff in a restaurant. Maintenance staff at either. Some positions come with tips, some an hourly wage. That's life as we have come to know it. I feel no (zero) responsibility to the "behind the scenes" people. I paid my passage. Part of that should go to employee wages. That's how life goes. It's not my responsibility to subsidize the salary of two thousand people. I'm on a week off from my problems. I don't have the responsibility to subsidize payroll. Setting the world to rights shouldn't be what my one week a year is about. As far as rolling the automatic gratuities into cruise fare. Why not just pay them more out of the current cruise fare (like a decent employer) and take a slightly lower profit for corporate CEO's etc. Wether, a percentage of people remove automatic gratuities or not, the automatic gratuities rate will still always rise. The cruise fare will still always rise. Don't fool yourself into believing people who think like me are the cause of that happening. I tip in cash directly to those who I have seen provide me a service and do it well. Also, the amount of my tip is generous for the service provided. It's an honest fair system that's been around for hundreds of years. I have no doubt I'm being fair to them and myself. That's my automatic 18% on the subject anyway. Have a good Sunday folks.

If you don't feel the current system is fair to you, have automatic gratuities removed on day one. Then tip in cash as you see fit. It's the only way to get total control currently.