AnnieC

8 minutes ago, Eglesbrech said:

The point is still the same, why would he listen to a lay person...

... on a cruise forum.

12 minutes ago, ace2542 said:

Except it might not work against the South African strain apparently at least according to the scum (sun). So this is never going to end and cruising will never resume. They can't go another year without money. And the pfizer hasn't been tested like that and the oxford vaccine is crap but is the only game in town.

Well, in that case it makes no odds if your 'mate' doesn't have his second jab, does it? Then he can free up his second vaccine for someone in need.

3 minutes ago, ace2542 said:

I am under the impression that the person who had the first vaccine pfizer dose have a signed contract to get the second at an approved date would that be correct?

 

My mate works for NHS won't say where on a public forum. He has had his just before christmas and he is saying they are trying to move his second dose "and making decisions without proof of consent" in his words and that he has  "signed a contract that says 21 days not 12 weeks". So surely they have to honour that? Or be in breach?

Trouble is, they can protect twice as many people in the same length of time by delaying the second jab, which seems a reasonable compromise. Mind you, the few scientists I read don't agree with each other - Dr Simon Clarke deems it a bad idea, JVT and Dr John Campbell both approve.

1 hour ago, Selbourne said:

I haven’t read that article Dave, but does it specify precisely what the ‘agreed orders’ are and by when? I keep hearing that same comment, from vaccinate manufacturers and politicians, but no figures with it. The only firm figure I have heard is that 530k of the Oxford vaccine is being delivered for this week. Matt Hancock said that the next batch wouldn’t be until early Feb, but I believe that was later corrected. On the few rare occasions I have seen where the media has tried to press politicians or vaccine companies on precise numbers of vaccines and dates, they have steadfastly refused to answer. I can’t help but wonder why?

The nearest I've seen to an explanation (possibly in Saturday's Telegraph) is that such is the competition between nations for the vaccine that no one wishes to show their cards. I have no idea if this is accurate, or if it's yet another press release by the ministry of guesswork.

52 minutes ago, zap99 said:

I think you will find that a few hundred thousand throughout the world who took part in the trials did just that. A good few on here as well.

I was responding to your post to Dermotsgirl, which did not reference the wonderful volunteers, for whom I have the greatest gratitude and respect, as I'm sure does she. Please don't deliberately confuse the issue.

1 hour ago, zap99 said:

Don't forget that a third if folks won't have it. I seem to recall you saying you wouldn't have an untried vaccine. Forgive me if you didn't say that🤔

I doubt any of us would have an untried vaccine!

43 minutes ago, yorkshirephil said:

Load of cobblers. Match point.

New balls please?😂

1 minute ago, terrierjohn said:

Not sure where you get your figures from but the official number of over 65s in the UK is just under 12 million, data from several Google sites.

Then, as Dave says, there are the high priority groups.

12 minutes ago, terrierjohn said:

By mid february most people over 65 should have been vaccinated, this will greatly reduce the pressure on hospitalization cases.

Were I a betting woman, I'd put money on it that I won't be, and I'm in that group. That's only another 6 weeks!

38 minutes ago, terrierjohn said:

My understanding is that Yorkshire, and some other areas of the country are accepting covid cases from down south, so clearly not everywhere is overwhelmed. Equally as the vaccine roll out ramps up then more and more vulnerable oldies will be protected which will lead to a reduction in hospitalization.

We just have to be patient, and hope that vaccine supplies start coming through in large enough quantities to see an early improvement in infections among the vulnerable.

Others will know far more than I do about the logistics and safety of moving patients half way up the country when they're seriously ill but it seems less than ideal, plus does it tie up nurses/doctors to accompany the patients?

46 minutes ago, Angel57 said:

I’m too scared to get on the scales.......🐘🙄

Very wise. I hauled myself on yesterday and have put on half a stone. Apart from pregnancies, haven't gained weight in my adult life until now.🍰

2 hours ago, grapau27 said:

No.

They were thin standing oil filled but electrical operated radiators.

Oops, sorry, double post.

2 hours ago, grapau27 said:

No.

They were thin standing oil filled but electrical operated radiators.

Graham, do you have emergency cover on your house insurance? If so, they should come out before Monday - my heating went off just before Christmas and was fixed by the emergency cover within 6 hours, as promised in their policy booklet.

For a complete change of subject, I have just been watching a cookery programme that alleged people from Staffordshire ate gravy with their chips.🤢 As we have a sizeable Stoke contingent on here, I'm curious to know if this is correct?

Chris Whitty is saying there will be delays to the vaccine for a while: https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-chief-medical-officer-chris-whitty-warns-coronavirus-vaccine-shortages-will-last-months-12176673

😪

6 minutes ago, tring said:

 

Eye of newt and toe of frog, wool of bat and tongue of dog, adders fork and blind worms sting, lizards leg and owlets wing etc.

I wonder how that recipe would have stood up against covid?

Some of the ingredients are thought to have caused it.🥴

2 minutes ago, molecrochip said:

 Later the media corrected his statement based upon a press release which said

 500,000 a week from next week building to between 1m and 2m a week by early February.

Do you have a link to an authoritative source for this, please.

16 minutes ago, grapau27 said:

Just melted a 400g bar of Cadbury's Dairy Milk.😊

😂

Cold food likewise - if it's on the salad bar it contains no calories: coleslaw, potato salad, rice, pasta, dressings, all have miraculous slimming qualities. My late husband was utterly convinced of this and nothing would budge him.

Just now, P&O SUE said:

My friend and I went , I had a black coffee and cake and she thought she was being good just having a hot chocolate- it was enormous and had loads of marshmallows on it 😆

Nothing in liquid form is fattening: hot chocolate, wine, brandy. Not a single calorie in any of them. 

No need to feel embarrassed, Sue, that's excellent news for you. Enjoy it!😂

12 minutes ago, batholiver said:

 

 

Probably wiser to amend the calculator settings to half a million a week, being optimistic. 

I've just tried that - I'm in the 65+ group and it predicts I'll be done by early December 2021.🥴

12 minutes ago, cruisenewbie1976 said:

Try Google 😉

I have and couldn't find anything. Do you have a link, please.🙂

7 hours ago, wowzz said:

She had her first jab just before Christmas,  and her second is due three weeks later. 

So, by mid January she should be pretty safe. How wrong is it to see your mother who you haven't seen for 5 months and who lives alone?

Is she going to get the second jab three weeks after the first? My understanding, probably wrong, is that the scientists have now decided to leave a gap of 12 weeks to enable more people to have their first dose.

58 minutes ago, Selbourne said:

Sadly no! Fergus Walsh almost got there, but it was more a statement about the speed needed, rather than a question, so no clear answers given. However, he has just stated on the BBC 6 O’clock news that there are 25 million people aged over 65 or health workers and just for that group to have the vaccine by Easter needs 2 million people to be vaccinated every week from now until then. That is around ten times the current vaccination rate. Obviously the Oxford vaccine is much easier to distribute, but with only 530k doses due next week and a couple of million more in early Feb, you don’t need to be a mathematician to work out that the stats don’t support the rhetoric. This is going to be a very very long process. 

Agreed. The first couple of questions looked promising, then Sam Coates decided to ask four not particularly good questions and it was all downhill from there, particularly inews.

1 hour ago, jeanlyon said:

I am probably still a furriner.  Only been in Devon 18 years, not nearly long enough!

Furriner used here in Norfolk too - only been here since 1973, a mere 47 years; no time at all.